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VERY INTERESTING LOOK AT OUR FUTURE!!!

 

1. Auto repair shops go away. A gasoline engine has 20,000 individual parts. An electrical engine has 20. Electric cars are sold with lifetime guarantees and are only repaired by dealers. It takes only 10  minutes to remove and replace an electric engine. Faulty electric engines are not repaired in the dealership but are sent to a regional repair shop that repairs them with robots Essentially, if your electric "Check Motor" light comes on, you simply drive up to what looks like a car wash. Your car is towed through while you have a cup of coffee and out comes your car with a new engine. 

2. Gas stations go away. Parking meters are replaced by meters that dispense electricity. All companies install electrical recharging stations.

3. All major auto manufacturers have already designated 5-6 billion dollars each to start building new plants that only build electric cars.

4. Coal industries go away. Oil companies go away. 
Drilling for oil stops.

5. Homes produce and store more electrical energy during the day and then they use and will sell it back to the grid. The grid stores it and dispenses it to industries that are high electricity users. 
   
A baby of today will only see personal cars in museums. 
                    
1. The FUTURE is approaching faster than one can handle! In 1998, Kodak had 170,000 employees and sold 85% of all photo paper worldwide. Within just a few years, their business model disappeared and they went bankrupt. 
         
What happened to Kodak will happen in a lot of industries in the next 5-10 years and, most people won't see it coming.   
    
Did you think in 1998 that 3 years later you would never take pictures on film again? 
    
Yet digital cameras were invented in 1975 The first ones only had 10,000 pixels, but followed Moore's law So as with all exponential technologies, it was a disappointment for a time, before it became way superior and became mainstream in only a few short years.  It will now happen again (but much faster) with Artificial Intelligence, health, 
autonomous and electric cars, education, 3D printing, agriculture and jobs.   
    
Welcome to the 4th Industrial Revolution. 
   
Welcome to the Exponential Age!!
    
2. Software will disrupt most traditional industries in the next 5-10 years. 
   
3  Uber is just a software tool,  they don't own any cars, yet they are now the biggest taxi company in the world.  
    
4. Airbnb  is now the biggest hotel company in the world, although they don't own any properties
   
5. Artificial Intelligence: Computers become exponentially better in understanding the world. This year, a computer beat the best Go-player in the world, 10 years earlier than expected. 
     
6. In the U.S., young lawyers already don't get jobs. Because of IBM's Watson , you can get legal advice (so far for more or less basic stuff) within seconds, with 90% accuracy compared with 70% accuracy when done by humans. So, if you study law, stop immediately. There will be 90% fewer lawyers in the future, only omniscient specialists will remain. 
   
6A. Watson already helps nurses diagnosing cancer, its 4 times more accurate than human nurses. 
      
7. Facebook now has a pattern recognition software that can recognize faces better than humans. In 2030, computers will become more intelligent than humans.   
   
8. Autonomous cars: In 2018 the  first self-driving cars will
appear for the public Around 2020, the complete industry 
will start to be disrupted. You don't want to own a car anymore. You will call a car with your phone, it will show up at your location and drive you to your destination. You will not need to park it you only pay for the driven distance and can be productive while driving. The very young children of today will never get a driver's license and will never own a car. 
   
8A. It will change the cities, because we will need 90-95% fewer cars for that. We can transform former parking spaces into parks. 
    
1.2 million people die each year in car accidents worldwide. We now have one accident every 60,000 mi (100,000 km), with autonomous driving that will drop to 1 accident in 6 million miles (10 million km). That will save a million lives worldwide each year. 
     
8B. Most car companies will doubtless become bankrupt. Traditional car companies try the evolutionary approach and just build a better car, while tech companies (Tesla, Apple, Google) will do the revolutionary approach and build a computer on wheels. 
   
8C. Many engineers from Volkswagen and Audi are completely terrified of Tesla 
   
9. Insurance companies will have massive trouble because, without accidents, the insurance will become 100x cheaper. Their car insurance business model will disappear. 
   
10. Real estate will change. Because if you can work while you commute, people will move further away to live in a more beautiful neighborhood. 
    
11. Electric cars will become mainstream about 2020.  
 Cities will be less noisy because all new cars will run on electricity. 
    
12. Electricity will become incredibly cheap and clean: Solar production has been on an exponential curve for 30 years, but you can now see the burgeoning impact. 
    
13. Last year, more solar energy was installed worldwide than fossil. Energy companies are desperately trying to limit access to the grid to prevent competition from home solar installations, but that simply cannot continue... technology will take care of that strategy. 
    
14. With cheap electricity comes cheap and abundant water. Desalination of salt water now only needs 2kWh per cubic meter (@ 0.25 cents). We don't have scarce water in most places, we only have scarce drinking water. Imagine what will be possible if anyone can have as much clean water as he  wants, for nearly no cost. 
    
15. Health: The Tricorder X price will be announced this
year. There are companies who will build a medical device (called the "Tricorder" from  Star Trek) that works with your phone, which takes your retina scan, your blood sample and you breath into it. It then analyses 54 bio-markers that will identify nearly any disease. It will be cheap, so in a few years everyone on this planet will have access to world class medical analysis, nearly for free.  
   
16. 3D printing: The price of the cheapest 3D printer came down from $18,000 to $400 within 10 years. In the same time, it became 100 times faster. All major shoe companies have already started 3D printing shoes. 
    
17. Some spare airplane parts are already 3D printed in remote airports. The space station now has a printer that eliminates the need for the large amount of spare parts they used to have in the past. 
   
18. At the end of this year, new smart phones will have 3D scanning possibilities. You can then 3D scan your feet and print your perfect shoe at home. 
   
19. In China, they already 3D printed and built a complete 6-story office building. By 2027, 10% of everything that's being produced will be 3D printed. 
    
20. Business opportunities: If you think of a niche you want to go in, first ask yourself: "In the future, do I think we will have that?" And, if the answer is yes, how can you make that happen sooner? 
   
20A. If it doesn't work with your phone, forget the idea. Any idea designed for success in the 20th century is doomed to failure in the 21st century. 
   
20B. Work: 70-80% of jobs will disappear in the next 20 years. There will be a lot of new jobs, but it is not clear if there will be enough new jobs in such a short time.   
   
21. Agriculture: There will be a $100 agricultural robot in the future. Farmers in 3rd world countries can then become managers of their field instead of working all day on their fields.  
    
22. Aeroponics will need much less water. The first Petri dish produced veal is now available and will be cheaper than cow produced veal in 2018. Right now, 30% of all agricultural surfaces is used for cows. Imagine if we don't need that space anymore.
   
23. There are several startups who will bring insect protein to the market shortly. It contains more protein than meat. It will be labeled as "alternative protein source".

PS.  We are wired for linear change.  Problem is we are now in the accelerating curve of EXPONENTIAL change.  Fasten your seatbelts.

 

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When was this fantasy written? 


"Electric vehicles will become mainstream by 2020"
Electric/hybrid electric cars have been on the US market for 20 years now. Last year's U.S. market share? 2.0%.
In 24 months that number may be 3%.

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BULLFEATHERS!!!!!!....................................Bob

The above is a mutilation of my original comment. I have never in my life, nor would i ever, utter bullfeathers. If a moderator is going to muck up my verbiage at least try to be not boooring........bob

 

 

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A quick Google search shows that this was first posted online at least as far back as 2017. It is now 2019 and this is not much closer to reality. Some of these predictions will probably eventually come true. I doubt very seriously that much of it will happen in my lifetime. 

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This is a very interesting 23 item list of observations/predictions, and probably many of them will come to pass; however, I must ask what " ... gasoline engine has 20,000 individual parts ? "

 

Cheers,

Grog

 

 

 

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I am with Capngrog. If our engines had 20,000 parts we would have a lot of left over pieces when we were through rebuilding.  Could you imagine having to fit 20,00 parts together to build your engine.

So basically the list says some industries go away while others come on. Duh? Isn't that what happens?

 

 

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Who comes up with this stuff? The electric grid in many areas cannot support the abundance of "Charging Stations" and will need more coal powered plants to supply the new grids. Everything I have read seems to agree that electric cars as they exist in 2019 will not work exclusively. Hybrids are a quick fix, but not the answer alone. The other issue is disposal of all the batteries. Gasoline powered cars now get 30 to 40 miles per gallon and have never had cleaner emissions. In order for electric only cars to work a lot of engineering needs to happen and most agree we are quite a ways off. Change an electric motor, while you have a cup of coffee, never gonna happen. Even if it was possible the shop will have to inflate both the time and cost to make money. I don't think anyone alive today will see the future as pictured in Post 1.

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27 minutes ago, capngrog said:

This is a very interesting 23 item list of observations/predictions, and probably many of them will come to pass; however, I must ask what " ... gasoline engine has 20,000 individual parts ? "

 

Cheers,

Grog

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure that if you count every single link and pin in a roller timing chain, every single needle bearing in the hydraulic roller lifters, etc, you'd probably get close.

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As there always is with these sort of predictions there is a certain amount of speculation that will prove to be true. However there will also turn out to be lots that simply doesn't evolve in the predicted direction.  But yes , over the next 20-25 years there will be some very big changes . And yes , many of us will feel even more isolated and bewildered by technology than we feel today. 

 

Greg in Canada

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I thought the idea of incorporating a camera into a phone was never going to catch on, after all, a good camera needs rows of buttons that only a select few understand  their use and setting.  And the size, can you imagine they would want to make phones bigger so you could squint at some small screen to see messages or even watch movies on them.  Well that idea will never go anywhere, Steve Jobs must be dreaming if he thinks it will.  And so it goes, some things that we think will flop could be the next big thing.  I say this as I type it out on an iPad instead of a conventional computer.

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30 minutes ago, SC38DLS said:

Coal should go away. I live in KY where every politician campaigns on keeping the coal industry alive. Then they never help the coal industry. One prediction that would be good if true. 

 

I see a strong future for the bourbon industry and horse racing too so I think we'll be OK for a few more years.... :)

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TerryB my mainframe that used $4 grand a month to run and cool was going to be the best system we ever bought. Now my business is being run better, faster and easier on a laptop!  How could that happen  in three years after we installed it?  

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In the mid 50's we were on the cusp of having a piece of uranium the size of a nickel run our vehicles for 20 years.

 

Autonomous vehicles will not become mainstream until they know what to do at a  DWI checkpoint, at an unmarked railroad crossing, at a detour in the middle of the night in the rain with a small orange and black sign with an arrow. at the traffic light at Tipperary Hill in Syracuse (it's upside down)....how about Deaf child in Area, Hidden Driveways, Bump and other signs. Construction Zones, etc. When they start to test them where most of the population is (almost all without any mass transportation alternative) they will then understand that no computer can ever substitute for the human brain - sure they can do some things better - but not even a small percentage of things. It's like the old parlor games...

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Jurisdiction What’s restricted? Source
Copenhagen, Denmark Ban new diesel cars from entering the Danish capital

Copenhagen’s mayor said last year he will introduce legislation to ban diesel cars registered after 2018. “It’s not a human right to pollute the air for others. That’s why diesel cars must be phased out,” he told Danish newspaper Politiken

 Rome, Italy Ban diesel vehicles from city center by 2024 Mayor Virginia Raggi announced a plan to ban diesel cars from city center by 2024. “If we want to intervene seriously, we have to have the courage to adopt strong measures,” she wrote on Feb. 27 on her Facebook page.
 Norway Target of no new gasoline or diesel vehicle sales by 2025 In 2016, Norwegian politicians agreed to an ambitious goal of phasing out all conventional cars: “There is an agreement on a target of zero new fossil-fuel cars sold as from 2025. No outright ban, but strong actions required,” tweeted Norway’s then-Environment and Climate Change minister Vidar Helgesen in 2016. Today, nearly 40% of all cars sold in Norway are electric or hybrid.
Athens, Paris, Madrid, Mexico City End use of all diesel vehicles by 2025 At a 2016 conference, city leaders committed to “stop the use of all diesel-powered cars and trucks by the middle of the next decade” and incentivize electric, hydrogen and hybrid vehicles.
Paris Ban on diesel in city by 2025. Ban on all internal combustion vehicles by 2030. Paris pledged to ban diesel engines by 2025, and phase out all combustion-engine cars by 2030. “This is about planning for the long term with a strategy that will reduce greenhouse gases,” said Christophe Najdovski, head of Paris transport policy in October 2017. “Transport is one of the main greenhouse gas producers … so we are planning an exit from combustion engine vehicles, or fossil-energy vehicles, by 2030.”
 India No new gasoline or diesel vehicles by 2030 (if economical) In 2017, the Indian government announced the “ambition, that by 2030, all vehicles sold in India may be electric-powered.” The energy department’s plan will depend on the costs of electric cars falling far enough to make it economical.
 Ireland No new gasoline or diesel vehicle by 2030 The country will ban sales of all gasoline and diesel vehicles by 2030. Cities such as Dublin are required to only buy electric buses after 2018.
 Israel Ban import of all gasoline and diesel fuel cars by 2030. Only natural gas and electric vehicles permitted. Energy Minister Yuval Steinitz told a conference last February that “from 2030 onwards, the State of Israel will create alternatives and will no longer allow the import of cars that run on gasoline and diesel fuel. … We intend to reach a situation in which Israel’s industry will be based on natural gas, and most importantly, transportation in Israel will be based on natural gas or electricity.”
Brussels, Belgium Diesel ban in Belgian capital by 2030 The government of Brussels agreed to introduce a diesel ban in Belgium’s capital by 2030. Restrictions on gasoline cars are being considered.
 Netherlands All vehicles emission free by 2030 A Dutch parliamentary coalition agreement stated in October 2017 that “the aim is for all new cars to be emission-free by 2030. Phasing out the tax incentives for zero-emission cars will be brought into line with this ambition.” (page 39, document in Dutch)
 France No new gasoline or diesel vehicle sales by 2030 The French government’s 2017 Climate Plan, pledges to “take greenhouse gas-emitting vehicles off the market by 2040: stopping sales of petrol or diesel cars will encourage car manufacturers to innovate and take the lead on this market.”
 United Kingdom No sales of conventional petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2040. Reduce national vehicle emissions to zero by 2050. The UK government committed to end sales of new conventional petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2040. Instead of completely banning petrol and diesel vehicles, it states (paywall) the “majority” of new cars and vans sold by 2040 should be zero emissions, and all should have zero emissions “capability” (such as hybrids). By 2050, the UK says it will reduce vehicle emissions to virtually zero by 2050 with “almost every car and van” zero-emissions by 2050. Scotland’s Parliament announced more ambitious plans to phase out petrol and diesel cars by 2032.
 Taiwan No new non-electric motorcycles by 2035 and four-wheel vehicles by 2040 The country’s Environmental Protection Administration plan would ban all sales of nonelectric motorcycles and four-wheel vehicles by 2035 and 2040, respectively.
 China No date given on phase-out of combustion engines China is developing a long-term plan to phase out combustion engines, according to Xin Guobin, a government official from the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology. “Some countries have made a timeline for when to stop the production and sales of traditional fuel cars,” he told Chinese state media last September, noting the ministry had started “relevant research” to finalize a timeline. “Those measures will certainly bring profound changes for our car industry’s development.” Experts anticipate (paywall) the country will impose the phase-out ban alongside carbon controls expected around 2030.
 Germany Ban on sale of new diesel cars expected. Considering ban on all internal combustion engines by 2040 in line with Britain and France. Germany has not set a timeline but chancellor Angela Merkel said in Aug. 2017 that the country must eventually join other European countries banning new diesel cars.” She called plans by Britain and France to phase out fossil-fuel powered cars by 2040 “the right approach,” while adding, “I don’t want to name an exact year.” German cities are already pushing for their own diesel bans.
US states: California, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts,
New York, Oregon,
Rhode Island, and Vermont. Canadian provinces:
Québec
Reduce national vehicle emissions to zero by 2050.  

“We will strive to make all passenger vehicle sales in our jurisdictions ZEVs as fast as possible, and no later than 2050.”

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As long as the vast majority of the population of a given country moves to a very densely populated "urban center" then an efficient and largely very low emission public transportation system is a viable goal.  It would however be a very different world than that which many of us are now living.

   Hong Kong today is probably as close as anything now existing to what would be required.

      A bit bleak for the old car hobbyist I am afraid.

 

Greg in Canada

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I’m tired of being told what to worry about.......global warming, ice cap melting, sea level rising, socialism coming to America.........I have shut off the tv, and stopped listening to both sides lying to my face like I’m some kind of idiot. The sun will come up tomorrow, and the day after, and so on......I may not be here to see it, but I am quite sure it will. I chose to worry about nothing.........I now just don’t give a s##t about anything...........an life has never been better. Be kind to your family, friends, and fellow man..........life is short, go drive your car. 

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10 minutes ago, edinmass said:

I’m tired of being told what to worry about.......global warming, ice cap melting, sea level rising, socialism coming to America.........I have shut off the tv, and stopped listening to both sides lying to my face like I’m some kind of idiot. The sun will come up tomorrow, and the day after, and so on......I may not be here to see it, but I am quite sure it will. I chose to worry about nothing.........I now just don’t give a s##t about anything...........an life has never been better. Be kind to your family, friends, and fellow man..........life is short, go drive your car. 

Have a nice drive;

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I find the original post to be thought provoking.  

This very much is germane to this hobby and worth a conversation.  

Let's not sweep it under the rug as just some sort of gibberish and have a productive conversation instead of attacking.

Thanks.

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A mix of interesting conjuncture phrased as fact with some BS mixed in:

 

4. Coal industries go away. Oil companies go away. 
Drilling for oil stops.

 

We are lucky that electricity grows on trees so we won't need the oil or coal fired plants that are currently powering all those Prius's.

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Environmental concerns and the continuation of technology advances will impact our lives, like it or not.  In the old car hobby we see paint systems changing, chemical restrictions on cleaners and plating systems, changes in fuel formulation and so on.  Will we survive, yes no doubt but there will be impacts to deal with.  None of them should cause heart attack stress levels if we are willing to understand the changes and adapt as required.  As for computers, robots, power generation and the like the world will figure them out and determine the level that’s needed in society.  Cars no longer look like Model Ts and we communicate more on computers than telephones as proof change happens and life goes on.

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I just wish the future would hurry up and get here already. We're 18 years over-due for a manned space mission to Jupiter and sentient computers. Ten years overdue for having manufactured androids doing the heavy labor for us. And where the hell is my flying car?!?

 

Seriously, nobody can know the future and things always change far more slowly than we expect. 

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General Motors is currently something like $7billion deep into all this autonomous stuff? I've been patiently waiting for the new "blackwing" Cadillac V8 and GM up and says no more caddy cars past June 2019?  I cant imagine being anything but disappointed with all the changes coming to the auto industry in our not so distant future.   

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1 hour ago, Matt Harwood said:

I just wish the future would hurry up and get here already. We're 18 years over-due for a manned space mission to Jupiter and sentient computers. Ten years overdue for having manufactured androids doing the heavy labor for us. And where the hell is my flying car?!?

 

Seriously, nobody can know the future and things always change far more slowly than we expect. 

 

 

Matt, be careful what you wish for.

 

 

https://www.wired.com/story/age-of-social-credit/

 

In some country's the future is more of todays reality than many of us realize. I know it's China however the growing pervasiveness of very powerful computer networks in authoritarian hands is somewhat frightening in scope. There are so many things various governments around the world are up to that average citizens have no idea about.  The future may silently creep into our lives and be a major shift without us even noticing until it's too late.

 I am a tech Luddite, however I find Wired magazine a good source of info about our evolving world.

 

Greg in Canada

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2 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said:

I find the original post to be thought provoking.  

This very much is germane to this hobby and worth a conversation.  

Let's not sweep it under the rug as just some sort of gibberish and have a productive conversation instead of attacking.

Thanks.

 

Thank you Peter,

 

  A very good friend of mine had sent me that link. He retired from a power company in the northwest as a power station manager and consultant. He sent it to me because the topic effects not only his industry, but the auto industry from which I was a part of for over four decades. There are people in our government as well as governments in many countries that are pushing this. The auto industry is well on it's way to electrification which will effect all of us in small and large ways. One of the ways it's going to effect us will be the Automotive business and a trickle down to antique, collector car hobby and that is why I posted it. Forewarned is Forearmed as they say. To condemn it is fine, but we must be able to protect the assets like oil and fuel so our hobby can continue and be affordable and not bury our heads in the sand.

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According to a new House Member, in twelve years we will all be dead from climate change???????? I think some of the original post is interesting, and I am sure things in the automobile world are about to change much faster than many people expect. I got to play with a Tesla that was all apart the other day. Interesting vehicle........part car, part washing machine, and part computer. Construction was impressive with the engineering almost over the top. If they keep and continue to gain traction in the car world things are going to change very fast........not sure if it will be for the better from my standpoint........but it's coming.

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