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1912Staver

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  1. That old photo with the marine engine is something else ! So I expect mounting that engine in the White chassis was just a convenient way to move the marine engine around for display at old timer engine shows and the like. I think there is a good chance that the radiator at least is from a White car. I don't think I have ever seen a White truck that didn't use the big side sprung mountings .
  2. Hi Bob, Studebaker did use a steering box that is in the same configuration as a teens RHD car but I don't think this box is anywhere that new. Everything about it looks early teens to my eye. The Studebaker unit is a more modern design, just configured in what we consider a RHD orientation. Pitman arm to the right rather than the normal LHD pitman arm to the left.
  3. Funny enough , I like the looks of it. But I generally gravitate toward smaller cars. Still, my all time favorite 1920's/ 30's car is the Packard 126 / 226 Sport, not a small car! Now if I could ever find one of those at a reasonable price I would have to go out on a limb and try to buy it . I agree the quality will be a downgrade compared to most PA's , but still Buick quality at least ?
  4. What a mess . So many modifications. What are those attachments to the two rear corners ? Some sort of stand so the frame can be used for a stationary base ? It looks like you are doing a great job of bringing it back to life.
  5. Westinghouse Electric Starting Motors { with mechanical pinion shift } For Automobiles. Dated 3-17, 12 pages Westinghouse Instruction Book 5143-B Westinghouse Automobile Ignition and Lighting System . Dated 4-15, 16 pages Instruction book 5140-C Westinghouse Vertical Ignition System {Reverse - Current Type } For Automobiles Dated 12-15, 12 pages Instruction Book 5160-A Westinghouse Automobile Lighting System, with Automatic Voltage Regulation, Dated 9-16, 15 pages Instruction Book 5159-A All four booklets are in very nice condition considering their age. Not mint, but not dog eared in the slightest. I would like around $100.00 for the four , postpaid Will consider reasonable offers.
  6. Great information Peter ! So this one is only correct for 1917-19. Hopefully it will end up with a Hudson owner. If anyone out there needs or wants this unit don't be shy about making an offer. I like Super 6's , however it is unlikely I will ever own one.
  7. Orcas Island is quite well served by Washington State Ferry's. At least 4 or 5 sailings a day, and it is not very far off shore at all. Also connections to Canada in non covid conditions. The life style is a bit laid back compared to the city , but suits many . Good climate, great scenery. but not a lot of employment on any of the Gulf Islands, Canadian or U.S. so reasonably well off retirees are a good percentage of the population. I live quite near but on the Canadian side of the mainland. These islands were for decades a somewhat affordable summer get away for many in the Seattle, Vancouver and Victoria area . Not sure about the U.S. situation , but property's on the Canadian side are very expensive these days.
  8. Observations of a tail end of the boomers , 45 years of interest in the hobby. Anything that used to be interesting and affordable say 25- 35 years ago, is now much more money than it used to be and no longer even remotely within reach. And in almost every case any local examples have either undergone total restorations { and would now require a sizable mortgage on the house to buy } or have been exported. Any example of a particular make and model that was at one time on your watch list that is still within your budget is in todays market a lost cause , basket case. And probably at that 2500 ++ miles away. Anything that you wouldn't look twice at 25 years ago for $1000 - $1500 is now $10,000 - $15,000 and you still wouldn't look twice at it. But at least it is still in your geographic region. { not worth the cost of shipping to 99.9 % of the out of region potential buyers } If prices shrink a bunch over the next 5 - 10 years perhaps things might get back to an affordability level that I enjoyed when I was a much younger person. But I doubt it. I have a few project cars that I bought a long time ago as starter examples I had hoped to learn from and eventually upgrade and use as potential parts cars for the better examples that I was never able to buy. Perhaps over the next decade I will be able to return a couple of my already owned cars to driver status. About the only way forward that I can see.
  9. Most are now listed as sold. Generally around what you would expect for prices , but some look like decent deals. Edsel convert and 52 Chevy convert both look like good buy in prices. But who knows if seen in person. Many are listed as auction bill of sale only, that will be a can of worms in most cases.
  10. That one is a tire service pump for sure. And not your typical Kellogg , either accessory or factory mounted unit. I am curious about the casting logo on the side. Is that something found on other cast parts on White's, or just the pump? The one on my Packard engine was a very simple design. Constant drive off a cam shaft eccentric, and only a couple of pounds pressure. No need for cooling fins or disengagement provisions.
  11. Great video. Great driver skills. Surprising lack of grip, I wonder how many Yellowbirds got wrapped up into a ball at the hands of less than truly expert owners.
  12. Did White make their own compressor ? My Packard truck had a very small compressor mounted on the side of the crankcase to provide gas tank pressure. For the initial starting pressure there was a hand pump on the dash. But a very small , low pressure compressor , strictly a couple of pounds for the tank only.
  13. I keep hearing about this big drop in vintage car prices, but apart from about the lowest 10% from a desirability point of view I sure am not seeing it. My experience is much like Pilgrim , anything even at all interesting has moved up in price steadily over the last 5 years and quite sharply over the most recent year. Very few non street rod, pre war cars on the open market around here . And most { by far } in the lower 1/3 of the desirability scale. Prices in this category may be as low as $10,000.00 , but you sure are not getting much value for money. Just very gray porridge. I keep a reasonably close eye on what is available locally. Its been a long time since anything I could actually buy perked up my interest.
  14. I must admit I was puzzled about the brake glow myself, but I was thinking some sort of new ceramic pads. Seen quite a few Can Am cars myself, but I was watching the car, not the track shots. And I know less than 0 about video games. But yes, I will be much more careful in the future. 11's , 19's , 23's And Lola Mk1's are all very fine cars. I would probably own one if they hadn't become so sky high expensive over the last 30 years. But the big V8 cars are in a class of their own. I have seen them in action many times over the last 45 years at various vintage events. My Lola is just a later 1970's Sports 2000 , the best compromise I could make between cost , ease of maintenance and driving experience. Also I actually fit into it reasonably comfortably. The older cars like Lotus 11's are a very tight fit for my 6'2" height even if I could afford one. Early Lola's are even smaller in the seating area. Not much more than go kart's really.
  15. My bad, that is a game. I should have asked my son to vet the footage. I am not up on how the games have advanced. Here is some genuine track footage.
  16. Please ...MGB's really are great cars within the limits of their original price/ displacement. And the V8 version takes the concept to a reasonably high position amongst any of the 1960's / 70's sports cars. The 190 is not even close despite the current market price.
  17. I still can't believe they are $20,000 cars. But even when they were $2000.00 - $3000.00 cars I wasn't even remotely interested in them. About as " non - sporting " a sports car that ever was. Give me a Jowett Jupiter any day ! I think the reason many of us are very market price aware is that in many cases any hobby car is a big strain on the household budget. And if a hobby car turns out to be a sinkhole for money, the household CEO is going to take a very dim view of the entire concept. Those that can actually afford their indulgences regardless of R.O.I. are in another category all together. The other 90 % of us wasted our formative years learning about old cars rather than ways of earning significantly above average incomes, long term investing, successful tax strategies and all the other arcane knowledge that is key to actually being able to afford the old car hobby.
  18. I like Ed's attitude regarding the use of well maintained , superb condition Classic Era " Greats ". I am not so sure about his fairly recent infatuation with new supercars. To me these are the real " Supercars ". You know , the ones Bruce McLaren actually designed, built and drove. Not the current , cash in on a name versions. Hang on , and enjoy. At least we are not paying the tire bills. P.S. , anyone who can drive one of these " like you stole it " is made of much sterner stuff than 99.9% of us.
  19. No !, please list all the early engines and parts you can find. We can always do some leg work if it is the piece to the puzzle we have been searching for.
  20. I think it is hard for any of the very high price tag, " special " cars from this era to live up to their current price tags . Sorry Ed, even a Model J. They were all { except the J, and even then dirt roads were the norm out side of larger, built up areas } essentially " dirt track " cars . And I doubt anyone alive today would push one to 90% of its capability on dirt, on the typical road courses of the day. Think Targa Florio in the 1930's. Mix of a little pavement and a lot of dirt / gravel over very challenging terrain. No safety barriers at all and many steep drop offs if you get really out of shape. People today do things like Pikes peak, and numerous rally events in similar conditions , but with 5 point harness's , fuel cells, fire suits, Hans devices , and full cages. People who pushed these cars to the limit on the courses of the day were by todays standards "taking insane risks". There is really no comparison to any sort of vintage motoring in todays world.
  21. It could be as new as the early 1970's . The BSA motorcycle engine just to the right is probably more valuable.
  22. Hi Craig. The data tag just says Made in Canada , so I expect that indicates Oshawa. Body number is 491 . That's probably spread out between 2 Ton's and 3 Ton's , possibly even 1 Ton's. In any event not a large production.
  23. Here is a photo that shows Staver's team. 3 cars, plus several people. Once again I believe this is the 1911 Elgin races. These are all the small Staver , 30 HP. But at least a couple of 35 or 40 HP racers were also built.
  24. I have a 1945 GMC 3 ton. Similar in that it was sold to a Commercial operator here in Vancouver, Canada at some point in later 1945. About the only difference from a 1946 that I am aware of is all painted trim and a wood rim steering wheel. Not many civilian 1945's were built, but as the war wound down they were available on a limited basis to people or company's involved with war work. It has a pretty low serial number, somewhere around number 450 or so if I remember correctly. Unfortunately since it was retired from the company fleet in the mid 1970's it has been mostly stored outside so something of a project.
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