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Everything posted by John_S_in_Penna

  1. Charles, a 1940 Chevrolet 4-door sedan, even when in excellent condition cosmetically and mechanically, should be well within your budget. Even if you got that rougher example for free, you would be spending far more in the long run to get it to be decent. If you want a big many-year project, we don't want to deter you, but it might not be best for a newcomer to the hobby. A great many possibilities exist! Be patient and particular in your search. And please tap into our experience and advice so that you get the best possible outcome. All the best to you in your first foray.
  2. What causes the "frame sag"? Was Franklin still using wooden frames at this time? If so, are wooden frames problematic, and when did they stop using them?
  3. Good point, but only "Classic" with a capital C. Charles wouldn't want to tell people he's looking for a 1920's or 1930's Classic, because people would be suggesting Packards, Cadillacs, etc. probably well above his intended budget. But Charles, welcome to the forum! Your involvement with Victrolas and other old equipment sounds very interesting. If you tell us what price range you'd like to be in, we could recommend a few old cars for you. If you post pictures or links to cars you're pondering, we could give pricing opinions or other advice. All sorts of budgets are welcome. I agree that getting a nice example will save you a great deal of money in the long run.
  4. Today's car fans who were active in the 1950's and 1960's had the ability to know many people from the early years of car manufacture. A great opportunity! I agree with Walt: So many articles, even in good magazines, are written merely by reciting catalogues and maybe data from Krause's Standard Catalogs. But for those who had interviewed historical figures, what depth of knowledge they could share! I really appreciate reading first-hand accounts by people (even car owners who can tell of decades ago) who were actually part of history. So, write down your remembrances of even the 1960's and 1970's!
  5. The danger of relying on old pictures-- who knows, the car could have sat outside for 20 years and look like this now. (But this is just a picture from the internet)
  6. It looks like a very nice car--at least from the 3 pictures, taken perhaps 30 years ago!
  7. They say artificial sweeteners leave an aftertaste. To me, this car leaves an aftertaste: The image of of the horrible styling remains in my mind long after the picture is gone...
  8. I'd recommend Hemmings magazine AND their website. The magazine ad may be read when it's new, and even months afterward; whereas once the internet ad expires, it's no longer accessible. I've called about cars long after the magazine ad was published. Printed media can be long lasting.
  9. It's for sale by a dealer, who likely bought it to mark it up. As we've all seen, a dealer's asking price may be far above a car's actual value. What are realistic prices for Dual Ghias in various conditions?
  10. There's a lot of prose in this topic to wade through, but he never said he planned to use the DeSoto as a regular car! Just the opposite, in fact.
  11. I don't know, Suchan. That could be leather and a correct fabric. Luxury cars often had more than one fabric style from which to choose. In fact, the catalogue image you posted states, "A wide variety or rich leathers, exquisite fabrics [plural], and superb styling permits the selection of an interior tailored to your taste..." Thanks for providing that image. I guess we would need the Color and Upholstery album to know for sure.
  12. Notice how a lot of the memories are from when members were children, before driving or just learning to drive. This shows how, today, we can make memories for others by giving a child a chance to sit in our cars; by taking him and his family out for a leisurely ride; by patiently explaining the forgotten features to him. For that girl or boy, the impression we make may be very long lasting.
  13. Earl, don't worry: Hemmings ads have probably 100 times, or 1000 times, the audience our forum does. I'm confident that your car is well taken care of, and because of that, worth a premium over many others.
  14. I would give the opposite advice: Register it as an antique car, since you're not using it as a regular driver. There are great benefits to doing so. As I noted previously, in Penna. the car can still, then, have either antique insurance or regular insurance.
  15. You say this model doesn't have much in common with the larger Pierces; and true Pierce fans tend to disdain them. So where would the market be for parts if the car is parted out?
  16. Can anyone list the problems encountered with 1970's Chryslers? I've always admired the 1974-75 Imperials and the identical 1976-78 New Yorkers, but maybe I shouldn't aspire to own one. Consumer Reports in 1980 reported that the '74 Imperial's reliability record was pretty good; but things went downhill from there. I know the later "Lean Burn" engine system can be by-passed; but I suspect the problems are more than that. I'd like to learn.
  17. Roadmaster (Robin), in what years were these the costs? 1960's? 1970's? I'd like to mentally convert them for inflation. This is the information I was wondering about. These figures show why the average person would not own this equipment---
  18. Jeff, it met your criteria very well! The preferred New Yorker, the preferred Highlander interior. Enjoy your new old car!
  19. For October 1958, Motor Trend had an article in which they printed readers' reactions to the 1958 cars: "Why I Didn't Buy a '58 Detroit Car." Sales had been very poor in that recession year. Reactions were quite critical of the over-decoration, the promised features that never materialized, the poor gas economy, the requirement to use premium gas, the long rear overhangs, the extreme tailfins and the heavy-looking "bulgy body panels." "Why should a car look like a plane any more than a submarine or a steam locomotive?" The cars weren't heavier per se, but they looked bloated due to the shape of the sheet metal. Motor Trend wrote, "We think that Detroit could gain much from a close, and continuing, study of the reasons given here." Comments such as those were heeded. Lincoln detuned their engine the very next year, and even more the year after. GM and Ford Motor cars for 1961 had much cleaner styling and were a bit smaller.
  20. Below is a picture of a $20 gold piece, or double eagle, that likely would have been a part of the prize. It's about the size of a silver dollar and contains almost an ounce of gold. But I didn't know that "burnt orange, white, and emerald" are considered colors of Hallowe'en. People today are more likely to think of orange and black.
  21. Jake, it may be a 100% increase in price. The original asking price was $10,000, but the flipper may have negotiated down, perhaps to $8000 or $9000. I think my rule often applies: Dealer Price /2 = Realistic Price
  22. Craig, I was thinking of the monthly service fees; and the cost per phone call, whether local or not. They must have been expensive, much more than ordinary home telephone service. Knowing those would be an insight into the automotive past.
  23. It's not fraudulent in my view. If registered in your father's name, it's legally his car. He could sell it if he really chose to. Similarly, if a person drives a car registered to the family farm LLC, it legally belongs to the farm. The farm could assign you a horse-trailer instead. If you live in a rental house owned by your grandfather, it legally belongs to your grandfather. He could evict you. Maybe someone with a law degree in Penna. could tell us more. Long-time collectors always want younger collectors in the hobby. When they get antique cars, there must be a way for them to possess them, insure them, and drive them!
  24. I'm from Pennsylvania myself, and similarly, I bought my first antique car not long after college graduation. Some encouragement: ---You could register your old car in your parents' name. My first couple of old cars were done that way. ---Garage rentals in McKean County should be $50 a month (maybe less) if you do some searching. There's no need to pay the much higher cost of a rental unit: Anyone with an extra garage bay will be fine, and they likely won't need proof of insurance. An elderly neighbor using only one bay of a 2-car garage may work well. ---Antique cars don't need to be inspected in Pennsylvania, since owners take especially good care of them and they get driven much less than regular cars. ---In Penna. the state registration is permanent. Pay the fee once (about $75) and never again as long as you own that antique car. ---Antique car insurance is very economical. Yours may be less than $100 a year with one of the major antique-car insurers noted above. ---Antique insurance and antique registration are unrelated, at least here in Penna. Your car can be registered as a regular car (non-antique) if you choose to do so, but I see no advantage in that. Only regular registrations require an annual inspection. Or you could have regular insurance and antique registration, though I recommend antique insurance and antique registration. The only detraction: An antique-car insurance company probably WILL want you to have a regular driver. But it's worth checking around. And having a regular driver is not a problem if the car is registered with your parents, who surely have a regular driver.
  25. Another point that is often made on the forum: Don't shop merely for price. There are plenty of companies who are merely brokers. Your car may be on hiatus mid-way; they may hire out drivers with lesser qualifications; your car may be transported in the open elements when you were expecting otherwise. There are a number of horror stories about brokers.
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