Pfeil

Your Future, will you fit?

Recommended Posts

I was a telecommuter since 2004.

By 2050 I doubt that I will be driving.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I’m tired of being told what to worry about.......global warming, ice cap melting, sea level rising, socialism coming to America.........I have shut off the tv, and stopped listening to both sides lying to my face like I’m some kind of idiot. The sun will come up tomorrow, and the day after, and so on......I may not be here to see it, but I am quite sure it will. I chose to worry about nothing.........I now just don’t give a s##t about anything...........an life has never been better. Be kind to your family, friends, and fellow man..........life is short, go drive your car. 

  • Like 8
  • Thanks 3
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, edinmass said:

I’m tired of being told what to worry about.......global warming, ice cap melting, sea level rising, socialism coming to America.........I have shut off the tv, and stopped listening to both sides lying to my face like I’m some kind of idiot. The sun will come up tomorrow, and the day after, and so on......I may not be here to see it, but I am quite sure it will. I chose to worry about nothing.........I now just don’t give a s##t about anything...........an life has never been better. Be kind to your family, friends, and fellow man..........life is short, go drive your car. 

Have a nice drive;

Image result for image gas stations no gas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, knee-action said:

Pray tell...what does all this have to do with antique cars ???

Image result for image gas stations no gas

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I find the original post to be thought provoking.  

This very much is germane to this hobby and worth a conversation.  

Let's not sweep it under the rug as just some sort of gibberish and have a productive conversation instead of attacking.

Thanks.

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A mix of interesting conjuncture phrased as fact with some BS mixed in:

 

4. Coal industries go away. Oil companies go away. 
Drilling for oil stops.

 

We are lucky that electricity grows on trees so we won't need the oil or coal fired plants that are currently powering all those Prius's.

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Environmental concerns and the continuation of technology advances will impact our lives, like it or not.  In the old car hobby we see paint systems changing, chemical restrictions on cleaners and plating systems, changes in fuel formulation and so on.  Will we survive, yes no doubt but there will be impacts to deal with.  None of them should cause heart attack stress levels if we are willing to understand the changes and adapt as required.  As for computers, robots, power generation and the like the world will figure them out and determine the level that’s needed in society.  Cars no longer look like Model Ts and we communicate more on computers than telephones as proof change happens and life goes on.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll just couple an electric motor to the input shaft of the ole CJ and a restate to the generator and not look back.IMG_1274.thumb.jpg.3192258b54aa2a6e359fbc5c56ac4a40.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just wish the future would hurry up and get here already. We're 18 years over-due for a manned space mission to Jupiter and sentient computers. Ten years overdue for having manufactured androids doing the heavy labor for us. And where the hell is my flying car?!?

 

Seriously, nobody can know the future and things always change far more slowly than we expect. 

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

General Motors is currently something like $7billion deep into all this autonomous stuff? I've been patiently waiting for the new "blackwing" Cadillac V8 and GM up and says no more caddy cars past June 2019?  I cant imagine being anything but disappointed with all the changes coming to the auto industry in our not so distant future.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Matt Harwood said:

I just wish the future would hurry up and get here already. We're 18 years over-due for a manned space mission to Jupiter and sentient computers. Ten years overdue for having manufactured androids doing the heavy labor for us. And where the hell is my flying car?!?

 

Seriously, nobody can know the future and things always change far more slowly than we expect. 

 

 

Matt, be careful what you wish for.

 

 

https://www.wired.com/story/age-of-social-credit/

 

In some country's the future is more of todays reality than many of us realize. I know it's China however the growing pervasiveness of very powerful computer networks in authoritarian hands is somewhat frightening in scope. There are so many things various governments around the world are up to that average citizens have no idea about.  The future may silently creep into our lives and be a major shift without us even noticing until it's too late.

 I am a tech Luddite, however I find Wired magazine a good source of info about our evolving world.

 

Greg in Canada

Edited by 1912Staver (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said:

I find the original post to be thought provoking.  

This very much is germane to this hobby and worth a conversation.  

Let's not sweep it under the rug as just some sort of gibberish and have a productive conversation instead of attacking.

Thanks.

 

Thank you Peter,

 

  A very good friend of mine had sent me that link. He retired from a power company in the northwest as a power station manager and consultant. He sent it to me because the topic effects not only his industry, but the auto industry from which I was a part of for over four decades. There are people in our government as well as governments in many countries that are pushing this. The auto industry is well on it's way to electrification which will effect all of us in small and large ways. One of the ways it's going to effect us will be the Automotive business and a trickle down to antique, collector car hobby and that is why I posted it. Forewarned is Forearmed as they say. To condemn it is fine, but we must be able to protect the assets like oil and fuel so our hobby can continue and be affordable and not bury our heads in the sand.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

According to a new House Member, in twelve years we will all be dead from climate change???????? I think some of the original post is interesting, and I am sure things in the automobile world are about to change much faster than many people expect. I got to play with a Tesla that was all apart the other day. Interesting vehicle........part car, part washing machine, and part computer. Construction was impressive with the engineering almost over the top. If they keep and continue to gain traction in the car world things are going to change very fast........not sure if it will be for the better from my standpoint........but it's coming.

Edited by edinmass (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I found out something that had my head spinning. For the last eighty years hydroelectric power has been a mainstay of the power needs in the West. One of the leaders in this has been the Bonneville power grid, and the dams which provided the power. The system has provided most of the West with reasonably priced electricity, while irrigating thousands of acres of farmland.

 

California with a seemingly insatiable demand for power has depended on BP. Suddenly, and seemingly overnight, the demand has slowed to a trickle. The reason is that the SW has developed it own sources of renewable energy (solar and wind). Just shows how quickly technology can change the playing field. To my mind it must be a good thing, but I'll leave it the people smarter the I, to sort things out.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, alsancle said:

We are lucky that electricity grows on trees so we won't need the oil or coal fired plants that are currently powering all those Prius's.

 

Nearly all Prii (or Prius') sold are/were hybrid, only a small number have been "plug-in hybrids". So they fill up at the same gasoline pump as any other "conventional car", they just use less fuel to go the same distance. In the 201,000 miles my 2004 Prius traveled before it was totaled I averaged 44.5 MPG. Just think of a Prius as a high capacity econo-car and that every Prius you see on the road is saving gasoline so it can be used in a SUV or pickup truck. .:)

 

Rewriting your statement to read Telsas would make more sense as they are full EVs.

 

I don't see a break out, but the local electrical company where I am claims 40% of the supply in 2018 was from renewable sources. And I am pretty sure that there is zero or close to zero coal in that mix (I think that only LA's DWP brings in power from out of state coal burning electrical plants). Where I used to live the power company listed the mix each year. Renewable and "non-carbon" sources (nuclear and large scale hydro don't count as "renewable" here) were, if I recall correctly, something like 80% of the mix. Basically, no coal, almost no oil and about 20% natural gas for them. So, no "we won't need the oil or coal fired plants" because they are not currently powering anything in my area anyway.

 

I don't have a Telsa or other pure EV car, but I see that my electrical company offers a "time of use" plan for EV car owners with a "super off peak" price from midnight to 6 AM of $0.09/kWh. If I divide out the reported miles/kWh I see on the web for "real life" Tesla owners, that seems to work out to between $0.03 and $0.04 per mile. Local 87 octane gas is about $3.00 according to gas buddy. Assuming 40 MPG for a equivalent gas powered sedan at the higher end of the efficiency scale, that would be between $0.07 and $0.08 per mile. So, for "fuel" the Tesla will cost you about half as much per mile. The sticker price for a Tesla is pretty high but that is driven by battery costs which are dropping pretty rapidly and lack of competition which is growing, so it seems reasonable that the purchase price of pure EV cars will be competitive with gasoline cars in the reasonably near future.

 

I suspect the average "non-car" person looking to buy a car will see a silent EV vehicle that costs half as much to run per mile and needs less service than a gasoline car as a good purchase.

 

I suspect the days of the internal combustion powered car are numbered. But I could be wrong, I made my 2004 Prius purchase assuming we'd be consistently paying over $5/gal for gas by 2010 and that didn't happen. Instead I just got a car what happened to be reliable, durable and cheap to own.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 9:52 PM, edinmass said:

I’m tired of being told what to worry about.......global warming, ice cap melting, sea level rising, socialism coming to America.........I have shut off the tv, and stopped listening to both sides lying to my face like I’m some kind of idiot. The sun will come up tomorrow, and the day after, and so on......I may not be here to see it, but I am quite sure it will. I chose to worry about nothing.........I now just don’t give a s##t about anything...........an life has never been better. Be kind to your family, friends, and fellow man..........life is short, go drive your car. 

That's the way I look at things. If the self anointed experts and professionally offended could only find their own iceberg. Bob 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Didn't Nostradamus state clearly that fossil fuels would be outdated once electricity was discovered to replace water power which was sure to end oxen on turnstyles but not before slave labor was fully spent building nuclear plants for the pharaohs? I could be wrong...

  • Like 2
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

as long as people are interested in cars, motorcycles and the like, they will always be around. There are people who waste thousands and thousands of dollars on that old obsolete horse. Why? I don’t know, but it’s not because it’s practical. Stop bringing me down man. Isn’t time to change your oil?!

Edited by Grizz (see edit history)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ANTIQUE automobile club and it is cluttered with space travel electric Teslas and global warming, letting in the Post WWII cars started it all. 

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My cars 80 I’m 72 predict all the gloom you want. I’m having fur driving the wheels off it. I’m sure it is going to outlast me. 

Have fun

Dave S 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 I posted the topic on another forum and one of the respondents reacted by saying this to someone who suggested if the auto industry goes all electric how will you fit in?

 

 


  I'm Not going to change I DON"T ROLL THAT WAY? In regards to changing over to whatever the auto industry tries to give to us, or the government tries to run down our throats.

I said;
I don't either just ask my close friends or my wife.

I'm mad as hell that I can't find replacement parts for my two 7" reel to reel tape machines and having zillions of hours on tapes I'll never get to play. I'm mad as hell I can't buy new LP albums for my 1229 and my 721 Dual turntables.
I'm mad as hell I can't find a replacement for my Sony play/record cassette tape machine and countless tapes I can't listen to.
And now my CD's are going to suffer the same fate!

I'm mad as hell I can't easily buy and process 35mm film for my Olympus OM1 and OM10 that I spent hundreds on. AND those telephoto and wide angle lens that I paid hundreds for WON'T interface with a new digital camera.


I'm mad as hell I can't get lacquer paint for my cars so I can shoot without a booth.

I'm mad as hell I can't get R12 for my cars that were designed for R12!

I'm mad as hell I can't get leaded fuel for five of my antique cars that were designed for it.

I'm mad as hell I can't get oil base paint for my house!


Those are just a few things off the top of my head.


Whether you like it or not you ARE conforming. Drip, Drip, Drip

Edited by Pfeil (see edit history)
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/26/2019 at 8:06 PM, SC38DLS said:

TerryB my mainframe that used $4 grand a month to run and cool was going to be the best system we ever bought. Now my business is being run better, faster and easier on a laptop!  How could that happen  in three years after we installed it?  

i  

Quote

 I know guys living the RV life and running their businesses on smart phones from wherever they are

.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now