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So, less than 150 gallons of gasoline to tour almost a thousand miles? I could live with that if someone wanted to give me a Duesenberg?

Glad a good time was had by all!

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I understand Ed not posting any pictures, but fifteen Duesenbergs traveling together for a thousand miles in Texas, stopping for gas, parked at restaurants for meals and hotels overnight, and no one saw them or has posted any pictures of them on the internet?  Were they camouflaged to look like pickup trucks towing cattle trailers?

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I think you hit the nail on the head George, Now if it were 15 brand new F350 duallies cruising together they might have got a notice. To the locals it just looked like a bunch of old cars driving around! LOL. 

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The cars were posted on Facebook by some local hot rod guys, and I have never been on instagram. Remember, I'm just the help......and I follow orders..........

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14 minutes ago, edinmass said:

The cars were posted on Facebook by some local hot rod guys, and I have never been on instagram. Remember, I'm just the help......and I follow orders..........

The help is someone delivering inter office mail. I’d say you’re more like a board member! 
Ha! 

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Thanks for the photo!  I divested myself of all social media except LinkedIn, and that's about to go as well.  I got to the point where I opened up Facebook and after 10 minutes, I was checking the JPL Near Earth Object website to see if there was any hope that an asteroid was on its way to produce an extinction-level event.  

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2 minutes ago, AURktman said:

Thanks for the photo!  I divested myself of all social media except LinkedIn, and that's about to go as well.  I got to the point where I opened up Facebook and after 10 minutes, I was checking the JPL Near Earth Object website to see if there was any hope that an asteroid was on its way to produce an extinction-level event.  

Finally! I now know I’m not the only one who did that? Hahaha 

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7 hours ago, md murray said:

I'll bet there's a great story behind the Murphy Beverly sedan with the paint peeling on fenders/hood- Is that an original car?


Yes.......there is.

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On 3/3/2021 at 10:10 PM, edinmass said:


Yes.......there is.

You know it would be pretty nice to read a 'barnfind' book one day that had nothing in it about Camaros and Mustangs. If only we had an member here who had a couple really good stories under their hat.....🤐

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OK, how 'bout this?

 

Over 50 years ago, I had a story published in Antique Automobile about helping a friend fish a 1923 Packard single six out of what we had thought was a chicken coop, but which turned out to be a moonshine still.  The car was dilapidated but complete.  It hadn't run in years, but the motor was loose and had compression.  We hauled the car back to his home, where he put it in his basement garage, out of the weather - - - 

 

- - - where it sits today, untouched after all these years.  Wanna buy a barn find?

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So, last time I was at Hershey, well, last time Hershey was held, I made it a point to seek out and meet Matt Harwood!  We chatted while standing next to that big blue V16 Marmon!  Matt is really a down to earth guy who took the time to talk cars with me for a few minutes.  Next time, it will be you Ed!  It will be neat to see the White in person!  I've been reading all your posts over the last few weeks, or has it been months?  Can't wait to hear about your next adventure...  All the best and be safe!  Greg from Alexandria Virginia.  (If you are ever near WDC and crossing the Woodrow Wilson Bridge and need a break, please give me a text/call and I will treat you to a meal!  Phil is invited too!  2zero2 3zero6 89one6)  

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Ed. Now that the cruise is over and the beautiful car ( that we only got to see the hood) is cleaned up. The snow is melted or melting quickly isn’t it about time you went north and picked up a mystery car you teased us with a few months ago?  
dave s 

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SO to get my friend in Florida enthused to continue his resurrection process of the White , I thought this page from the 1917 NY Custom body Salon program about Rubay

may be in order.

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5 hours ago, oldcarfudd said:

OK, how 'bout this?

 

Over 50 years ago, I had a story published in Antique Automobile about helping a friend fish a 1923 Packard single six out of what we had thought was a chicken coop, but which turned out to be a moonshine still.  The car was dilapidated but complete.  It hadn't run in years, but the motor was loose and had compression.  We hauled the car back to his home, where he put it in his basement garage, out of the weather - - - 

 

- - - where it sits today, untouched after all these years.  Wanna buy a barn find?

I'd rather have a '23-'28 Packard Single Six than any newer Packard, so would be interested if I were in a financial position to buy it, which I am not. Interesting story for the right person to finish!

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7 hours ago, DavidMc said:

Is the article about the "barn find" Packard?    

David,

What about the rubbish dump Packard? More of a challenge than the one above?

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Well.......life got busy down here. So much for the back off during the pandemic. We are back doing cars at the collection full throttle. Some great new projects to get done soon. Working with a bad right arm has really slowed down the bigger projects. My trusty side kick Phil will have to carry his weight as well as mine. We have minor surgery on a V-16 Cadillac coming up. And a major surgery on a Duesenberg. Since my new nickname is lefty, I may need an additional assistance for heavy work.......and that’s what’s on the horizon. As far as the overall car world, lots of stuff changing hands. Not the nice run of the mill stuff..........I’m talking about the big boy toys. The car world will come back full throttle in the next weeks and months. Another rumor of a fantastic car just pulled out of a garage that is making its way to the concours circuit. I have a friend miss on pulling the trigger on a possible BOS Pebble car recently. So never fear.......the car show world is ready to go now........We will be at Amelia with a statement car...........and Pebble has the best of show reunion class this year, and that should prove interesting............we will have a car on the green again..........can’t say what it is..........I will confess, it’s not my 1915 T. 
 

Got back on the White Saturday for just a short time. Pulled the right rear wheel bearing to service it......it was junk also. Glad I bought two new bearings and have one on hand. The bearing on the car is interesting......I will post photos tomorrow. It’s not cooperating in the removal department. Had a bunch of other fun things occur, but can’t disclose them yet. The White WILL be at the tour in April for the AACA Howley in the Hills event. Stop by, and don’t be shy to ask for a ride. I have a dozen or more people who want to drive it........and we will accommodate them. If I can get AJ to pry open his wallet and kick in, we might do a low end cookout at the house I rented for the tour. If it’s a go, I will publish the announcement here.......we should be able to handle fifty people. Hope to make it work out. Phil “with the hands like George the Animal Steel” will be with us along with AJ......aka alsancle............ thus ends the update. Back to work in the shop. Best, Ed.

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Also, to all my new White car and truck friends..............I’m behind on phone calls, emails, ect. Sorry, I have not  forgotten you.........just too much domestic things on top of car things keeping me strapped down. 

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Started the assembly on the water pump for the final time. Here it is assembled except for the pump housing. It makes it much more clear why this pump was challenging. Hope to try and install it this week. Will keep you posted. It’s very rare that I modify anything from factory specs or design. In this case, the set screws make setting up pump end play easy.......otherwise drilling and installing a tapered pin through the impeller would be nearly impossible with my equipment down south. 

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I'm impressed with how nice those knurled gland nuts look. I don't think I've ever handled one that hadn't been buggered up by someone using a punch to turn it...further evidence that this car has never been apart.

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I’m quite sure it was the original packing in the pump. Amazingly, it wasn’t leaking at 104 years old and with the damaged shaft. 

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They knew how to make good quality long lasting equipment back then. It looks very heavy but I guess that should be expected as it looks like it is made out of gold. I’m sure it seems that way compared to  the cost of rebuilding a modern pump. 
 

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Automotive Archeology - Lesson #2347

 

Upon taking the passenger rear wheel bearing apart for service,  unlike the driver side, there was no leaking wheel bearing grease, we determined two interesting things. Number one.......the driver side bearing which was bad was a replacement. There was no signs of it being done after the car was stored or exercised post 1928, so the bearing must have been replaced in the early to mid 20's. How can we tell? Well the passenger rear bearing is actually marked 313 WHITE CAR on the race........I have never seen anything like it ever. Also, the passenger bearing was quite bad.........for such low milage all I can figure is the car must have somehow gotten muddy water/dirt into the races crossing a stream or brook. We did find mud like grit in the bearing and grease. Sure glad we flushed the rear end several time with kerosene before we changed the rear end fluid.......that may have saved us a ton of work and money. So, now the last item on the car is finished on the original punch list. The entire car is now finished being sorted. We just need to adjust the brakes and we are ready for the AACA tour in April! Notice the bearing markings.....anyone ever see anything similar?

 

Look closely at seven and 4 o'clock on the single bearing.

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