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    Current Crop of Interesting Peerless Parts On E-Bay: 1. A Delco distributor for a 1925 Peerless: 2. Also 2 or 3 Peerless hubcaps are for sale(look like 1924-1928) from about $65 to $115, plus one I can't place, timewise: 3. five or six repro Boyce Motometers with Peerless logos 4. a NOS Peerless Pines Winterfront (may fit 1925-28 models) with Peerless logo
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    It's so impossible to find Peerless parts sometimes, I thought that when one of us finds one for sale we should post it here. If someone finds something else for sale, put the post here ...and number it with a roman numeral like I have. Thank you. I. Peerless sedan rear seat accessory FS. On e-Bay, someone has a real Peerless accessory for sale for about 4 more days. It's for sale by "turkey1717" and is listed as a "Peerless Luxury Touring Car Cigarette Accessory". I think it could be for: a. a mirror and compact case b. cigarette case and matches case c. small notebook and pen case All 3 of these things have been advertised as accessories in the back seats of some of the nicer models of Peerless closed cars 1926-1931, according to ads. I'm sure it's genuine. It's an ornate container, mostly sheet metal, with wood-grained front, and 2 velvet-lined compartments inside. There is a colorful Peerless eagle logo at the top, and the dimensions are about 3 1/2"x7"x2". Stamped with Doerr Co. on back. I think they were asking about $80.00 for the item.
  3. I know of a guy in Missouri who bought a Safeway building to store his and a friends cars. Probably about 25% of the cost of building a clear-span building new. One thing led to another and it became a museum, still open, with 50 or 60 cars. The founders are long-gone. Finances are probably 10% from admission/sales, 90% from the cash flow of the family's 7-figure food products business. The good thing is they didn't say "I need to have a tourism site capable of bringing in $160/day in admissions and bring people off the interstate, so I'll have a 40,000 sq ft facility designed and built for x dollars, buy 50 cars for x dollars each and open her up." What I'm saying is there are abandoned warehouses and factories and stores out there.
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    Make of speedster?

    Joan Newton Cuneo maybe? She drove and raced lots of cars in this era, including Locomobile, White, Knox, Rainier, Pope-Hartford, and Stearns. from The Old Motor "Mad For Speed" story, Dec. 3, 2012
  5. The 1919 McFarlan Sport Touring in the Fountainhead Museum. Ex-Bill Harrah, and ex-Wallace Reid, shown at Pebble Beach in 2012.
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    Tupelo Museum Closing, Selling Off Cars

    Their Peerless is the most interesting car to me.
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    Valuation of antique cars

    I think the Reynolds-Alberta Museum, Wetaskiwin, AB, has a '27 or '28 Velie Sedan
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    Peerless Photos

    This is available somewhere on the internet, titled "Mafia Greeting Card -- 1925 Peerless Straight 8". They should have contacted us here on The Peerless Forum to get the year and model right. I ordered several things from them. One can get a throw pillow; a coffee mug; a phone case; a notebook; a tote bag; a tee shirt; an image on aluminum, paper, canvas, acrylic, or wood; or a shower curtain. From Fine Art America. One of more than 25 Peerless automobile photos available(1909-1931). This one is a 1929 PEERLESS Model 8-125 Sedan: ...a nice shot of a somewhat rare model. Total output was about the same as Duesenberg, about 1,150 cars. Greater h.p. than anything in GMs 9-car American lineup that year(Chevrolet/Oldsmobile/Buick/Viking/LaSalle/Pontiac/Oakland/Marquette/Cadillac).
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    Peerless Photos

    An extremely nice 1917 Peerless Limousine is for sale on the Vault Classic Cars web-site ( ). Photos of the automobile show a really sumptuous interior -- plus the unusual Peerless V-8 engine restored to perfection. Thank you to Chris Summers for bringing these photos to my attention. ___Note: This car is really a 1920 and now owned by Walter Miller
  10. I read that King Alphonso of Spain had a Duesenberg Hibbard & Darrin Town Car. Did it survive?
  11. This one is lost: a Model A Duesenberg made into a service vehicle for the Duesenberg California Co., but in my opinion it was tastefully done. There is a photo of it from 1924, in an article about lost classics in Hemmings Classic Car 2013, from A-C-D Museum.
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    Peerless For Sale Department

    The February, 2012 Hemmings Motor News has an ad for a Peerless not known to me. It is a 1927 Model 6-60 in Maine. "...4-dr, needs reconstruction, $8,600." Telephone: (207) 866-3704.
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    Peerless For Sale Department

    A beautiful blue 1912 Peerless Model 48-Six Roadster is for sale on the HCCA classifieds page{found near bottom of AACA Forums listing under Horseless Carriages}. In Wisconsin.
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    Peerless For Sale Department

    A beautiful green 1907 Peerless Model 16 5P Touring Car is for sale on the HCCA classifieds, reachable via the Horseless Carriages Forum on the aaca forums. In Connecticut.
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    1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator 302 Sold

    Dear supercargirl & Mike_B_SVT, I'm glad to hear that the car sold and also some of the specs of the Cougars back in the old days. I read a catalog for diecast car models a few days ago and found one of these available as a model, which backs up what we were talking about a little. So I go from never hearing about something to seeing it available in a gift catalog. Interesting cars. In the Fairfield Collectibles Holiday catalog there's a blue and gold race version. Text: "1:18 Scale - 10 1/2" Long, #18565NX 1967 Mercury Boss 302 Cougar-#48 Zippo Vintage Grand Prix, NOW $84.95". It has 5-spoke mags, a roll bar, and #48 on the door. Jeff
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    Owners of 1924 Peerless Model 6-70 Cars

    The 1925 Peerless 6-70 Sedan in North Carolina has just changed hands.
  17. A very under-appreciated and little-known, but very important model for Peerless. I think they deserve their own thread here on the Peerless Forum. Please if you own one or think you own one; write-in and tell us about it. This six-cylinder car was introduced at a NY auto show, probably in January 1924, at a time when Peerless was an all-V-8 company, like Cadillac and Lincoln. Only 2,786 6-70s were made, but they were the start of a whole "line" of luxury Peerless sixes also including 6-72s, 6-90s and 6-91s. The general whereabouts of only one of these 2,786 cars is known by anyone in the Peerless Motor Car Club. If this serial number data is correct, that makes the line's production from 1924 to 1929 14,719 cars, near the top among the eleven lines Peerless sold 1920-1932. The first Peerless I ever saw was a 6-70 5-Passenger Touring Phaeton which was a Los Angeles, California car, later turning up in central Montana for a spell. Four models of Peerless using the Superb Six 289 Cu. In. engine: Model..............................................Production......Model Years Six-70..............................................2786...............1924, 1925 _____________________________________________________________________ Six-72..............................................5565................1925, 1926, 1927 Six-90..............................................3174................1927 Six-91..............................................3194................1928, 1929 There are probably only five or ten people worldwide who even talk about 6-70s, but I'm still interested in them. With the power of the world wide web, maybe we'll learn of some unknown ones! In addition to the model name stamped on the firewall, 6-70s can be identified by the Cadillac-influenced rad shell design combined with the new aluminum six.
  18. I love that muted violet color of the headlight lenses. Do you ever mention the Tesla connection when you are at an auto show?
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    1930 Whippet $6500

    Just look at your Standard Catalogue...Whippets were comparable to sales of something like Nissan today. First year sales in 1927 were 110,000 cars. Only sold '27-'31, though.
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    Owners of 1924 Peerless Model 6-70 Cars

    I tried to tell a lot of people about the auction, here on the forums and elsewhere, but it was "too far away to attend". Of course, for an extra 400 bucks one could have phoned in a bid and never shown up. The Facebook comments(over 100) were like this: My uncle will def buy this! I want dad to buy this for me! Would make a great rat rod. (no, riveting together junkyard bits will make a great rat rod) Jay Leno will come to this sale and buy it.(yeah, he buys all antique cars) Wayne Carini will hear about this and fly here(Glen Ewen, SK?). I bet the Packard and this were gangster-owned! So, not a real heavy concentration of antique car authorities to draw on in that part of the province. Anyone could have bought the car for any reason, I suppose. Sidney, Montana isn't known as an antique car mecca, but it has more $ going through it than anyplace in, say, Iowa, Kansas, or Idaho. It's in the middle of the Bakken Field oil boom. The last time I went to the Wells Fargo bank in Sidney, the guy in line in front of me dumped 32 grand in cash out of his briefcase for a deposit. No big deal there. The McDonald's there was closed a couple days a week for several years because they couldn't staff it 7 days with wages of only $15 an hour. Sidney is less than 200 miles from the auction, so a short drive for a prestigious Roaring Twenties car may have been the right combination. The 10/17/18 post in the "New Peerless Discovered" thread shows nice photos of all 3 known Peerless 6-70s. I arranged 3 pics of the 3 cars next to each other with the same 3/4 view. The car you are talking about in Maine is a 6-72, not a 6-70. The family probably still has it. A big difference appearance-wise(rad shell, hood, rear deck* of coupes and roadsters), time-wise(1924 and 3 months of 1925 vs.1925, 1926, and 1927), and in production numbers(2,786 vs. 5,550). Mechanically they were the same. Spock would say the analogy is almost like comparing a '79 Camaro and a '79 Firebird, except the 6-70 & 6-72 weren't produced concurrently, as were the Camaro & Firebird. Survivors: three 6-70 Peerlesses.......nine 6-72 Peerlesses, that I know of. * Peerless' Coupes and Roadsters did not have boattail rear decks in 1924, but after the April, 1925 appearance of the Model Six-72 they did, as well as on the Model 6-80('26-'28), Six-60('27-'28), Six-90('27), Six-91('28), and Eight-69('26-'28).
  21. Re: missing classics, there was a memorable post about that which Matt Harwood wrote back in ought four. I'll try to wrestle the whole thing over to this post, but it was General Discussion, 10/25/04, "Duesy, what does it cost to get into one?". An interesting discussion prompted when someone was considering getting a Duesenberg and had no idea as to reliability/complexity/driveability/cost, except an arm , a leg, a first-born child, etc. I hope Matt doesn't mind me quoting him. Unfortunately the photos don't seem to have survived 14 years..........maybe someone will know some of the cars being talked about: "There's a gentleman in my area (I'll refrain from naming him for privacy reasons) who owns 20 or so Js, including Clark Gable's SSJ roadster (it is now black and red). I recall when I was a kid and doing some research on the Duesenberg brothers for a school paper (car guy to the core!) that he had several cars that were rumored to have been destroyed during the war. But one day, he just shows up at a local show in one of them and everybody went nuts saying it was a missing car. Turns out he had several such specimens and even a bare chassis with 0 miles! I've seen a few of them at shows, but he's very reclusive and doesn't share his entire collection. I wonder what else he has squirrelled away there? It's tantalizing to think about it! My step-grandfather also claimed to have scrapped several Duesenbergs during the war. Apparently, they were more valuable as scrap metal than as cars (they were just used cars in the 1940s, I guess). I dearly hope he was mistaken on that... Then there's the 1929 LeBaron dual-cowl phaeton (sent back to the factory in 1933 for the SJ update!) that I had the honor of helping to restore when I was an apprentice in the mid-80s. The car was found in Argentina with the back half of the body cut away to make way for a tow-truck crane apparatus. It was a sad sight when it arrived, but when it left, it was spectacular: black and gold with chrome wire wheels, tan top and natural leather interior if I remember it correctly. I took a few rides in it and it accelerated like a car half its size and the torque was astounding. I recall the restorer with whom I worked telling one of the guys who was driving the car to the storage area: just put it in third and forget about it--it could easily be launched from a dead stop in top gear! And when you opened the exhaust cut-out, it thundered down the road with a sound that still gives me goosebumps to think about today--nothing short of an open-exhaust funnycar comes close. I have a kidney, half a liver, a lung and an eye for sale if anyone wants to trade for their Duesenberg. I'd even be willing to produce a child or two just for the honor... <span style="font-style: italic">(just kidding, guys, just kidding!)</span> The attachment is a photo of the '29 J I helped restore. Sorry about the lousy photos--I was only 14!" Note: My posting of the above from 15 years ago turns out to have been less than helpful. My apologies to Matt. ---- Jeff Brown
  22. I was going to say 1970 AMC Ambassador or Oldsmobuick. You could walk to the other end of the car and look for a makers badge. It's kind of a moot point what it was, no? Who knows what the drivetrain is like? It looks a little hard to fix up. I bet if you sent it to Cuba, it would be running on the streets as a taxi in two weeks!
  23. A.J. -- I think if someone found you one of those in that kind of shape and wanted you to pony up a new Corvette for it -- you might say "SOIT-en-lee", depending upon your regional accent. The De Ley coachbuilt Peerless Cabriolet at the 1930 Amsterdam Autosalon you found a photograph of was outstanding, too.
  24. Don't you mean the Marmon V-12 that changed hands recently at an auction for small money?
  25. There were three Peerless cars from their foray into the "multi-cylinder race" besides the surviving V-16 in the Crawford Museum. One V-12 and two V-16s. Chances are good that they were scrapped and became aircraft components. But they aren't figments of the imagination: all four were driven to Pasadena, Calif. for re-bodies by Murphy in 1931 from Ohio carrying bodies from the three straight-8 lines. The Peerless V-16 program actually began in 1926 in cooperation with Alcoa. A Japanese auto museum estimated the known V-16 is worth $2.25M .... so it would be foolish to hold onto it if someone had another one in a parking garage in Pasadena somewhere. Supposedly a blind rear quarter sedan was nearly done when the BOD decided breweries were more profitable... Since it's hard to tell what the illustrations are on the site are(unlabeled), I don't know what this Murphy design is......but might be what such a Peerless would have looked like: