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Pierce didn’t sell cars by years, they sold them by series. The “dual valve” car George has is what we have been talking about. It’s a four valve six, and fifty percent larger displacement than the white. Many people consider dual calve Pierce cars the absolute best car ever made.......over s Silver Ghost..........and everything else. It’s hard to argue the point.

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In 35 years I have had more damage to my house from hail than himmicanes or any kind of wind storm. They are called "squalls". If you look over the ocean you can see them as darker bands and the occasional waterspout. When sailing you would skirt the edge of a squall to get a real boost from the wind.

 

Those air inlets are about the biggest I've seen.

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Well.....it’s approaching a year.......and I finally found out what the clock looks like for the White. How did I find it? Easy, found another unknown car! More on that later, if the owner allows it. Here is what I am looking for......measurements to follow soon........

 

 

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   Hi all, I've been reading the forums for years. As I have been on the side-lines waiting to jump in there's never a bad time I suppose. I was waiting for a multi-cylinder 4 wheeled addition but don't yet have the space and have other family matters - it happens... Having read Ed's White and other sagas I thought I'd contribute with something I know well: clocks (and watches). There's several on the well known auction site that starts with an "E". I don't want to get into trouble on the first day with a link but here's a photo of one for sale. I have no affiliation or interest in any transaction... for the record. I am happy to provide advice and am usually able to get mechanical clocks properly running/serviced/oiled for those in need (strictly my hobby and not trying to solicit business).

...Dan.

 

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2 hours ago, prewarnut said:

   Hi all, I've been reading the forums for years. As I have been on the side-lines waiting to jump in there's never a bad time I suppose. I was waiting for a multi-cylinder 4 wheeled addition but don't yet have the space and have other family matters - it happens... Having read Ed's White and other sagas I thought I'd contribute with something I know well: clocks (and watches). There's several on the well known auction site that starts with an "E". I don't want to get into trouble on the first day with a link but here's a photo of one for sale. I have no affiliation or interest in any transaction... for the record. I am happy to provide advice and am usually able to get mechanical clocks properly running/serviced/oiled for those in need (strictly my hobby and not trying to solicit business).

...Dan.

 

Antique Waltham Car Clock 8 Days Clock For Parts

Prewarnut,  I think your contributions will be appreciated on the forum.  I do see the missing second hand in the bottom of the case for any potential buyer. 

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Wayne, I don’t have permission to share photos and video of the newly found car yet. I expect I will have it in another week. When I have it, I will go over the car in detail.

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On 5/3/2021 at 3:06 PM, padgett said:

GAR Wood is a boat.

 

  Gar Wood also made lots of dealer add on acceaasories for automobiles in the 30's & 40's.

  Our 1934 Ford has Gar Wood Fender Skirts.  Cost $8.75 a pair in a 1934 when the luggage

  rack was $37.00.   Now the skirts bring $2,000.00, go figure.  (Found one at Hershey years

  ago asking price $900.00.  Like Marty said the other day about having two fancy wheelcovers,

  put them on one side because nobody can see both sides of a car at the same time. 

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  Gar Wood also made lots of dealer add on acceaasories for automobiles in the 30's & 40's.

  Our 1934 Ford has Gar Wood Fender Skirts.  Cost $8.75 a pair in a 1934 when the luggage

  rack was $37.00.   Now the skirts bring $2,000.00, go figure.  (Found one at Hershey years

  ago asking price $900.00.  Like Marty said the other day about having two fancy wheelcovers,

  put them on one side because nobody can see both sides of a car at the same time. 


 

Back when I sold good used cheap cars I sold a Olds Cutlass that had different wheel covers from one side to the other. Eight months later the guy came in complaining about it.........I told my guy to swap them from side to side.....betting he wouldn’t look at the other side. Took him several weeks to figure out the joke..........he didn’t have a good sense of humor. I pulled the trigger and ordered two matching caps......the cheaper ones of course.........and then he complained he wanted the other style...........such is life.

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I know where there is Chevy dump truck in Maine with a Gar Wood body on it.

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Gar Wood made lots of things besides boats. Winches and dump boxes along with many other commercial vehicle/ construction equipment  items.

 

Yup! Most were hydraulic of hydraulic/cable. Here is a Gar Wood hoist that is mechanical using curved rack gears and pinion. 93 years old and can still earns it keep.... somewhat.. (LOL) 

 

Ed, can't wait to see the "Newly found" car. The White was an amazing adventure I am confident this one will be too!

 

 

 

 

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On 5/25/2021 at 7:56 PM, Paul Dobbin said:

nobody can see both sides of a car at the same time

In the early 80's my 29 Cad Dual Cowl won a AACA first Junior and First Senior with Pin Striping on the passenger side only (Striper got sick and had surgery).  It was never questioned by the judging teams.

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Ok....back from up north..........and getting back on cars down south.............here is a fun item I found...........

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And now........on to the next White..............🤪

 

Sure glad I made extra parts for everything on the first car!

 

More to follow in the days ahead.

 

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White built a lot of steam cars.......and were a top five automobile producer for a few years. That said, I’m not sure on numbers......there is a steam registry, but no gas registry. All White gas cars are rare. Most are small displacement high quality machines in the 30 horsepower range. The big cars.........the 1914-1916 six.....probably three survive, maybe. Of my series 16 valve four.........I know of seven engines, one in a truck. Three are in museums and will never come out. Frankly I’m surprised that the high horsepower four speed power plant wasn’t sought after for speed cars after WWI..........found in a junkyard.......it would been like a DV-32 power plant...........fast, exotic, and just plain neat. As far as I know, only my 1917 Rubay is on the big chassis.....all others are on the smaller chassis.(126 inch and 25 inch wheels, my big boy is 139 and 27 inch wheels.)

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I have a friend named Al who does 

excellent wood body work in Medina, OH.

 

I had a conversation with Al a few days ago.

 

Al worked for about 4 years for White 

in Cleveland, Ohio around 1964 in the

original building the sewing machines 

were manufactured in.

 

Al was working on incorporating Divco

Into White - just one of the many 

manufacturers White acquired.

 

Al remembers the building was antiquated

even back then - parking was difficult 

to find on the street.

 

I plan on interviewing him at length

and will archive it on my YouTube channel

for public viewing.

 

Al might be the last living person who

has clear memories of working for 

White at the original sewing machine

factory building.

 

 

Jim

 

Al unloading one of the project cars

I delivered to his farm several years ago

 

 

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