wayne sheldon

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    Horseless Carriage, Nickel Age, Model T, Classical music, Roaring '20s music, silent era films, history, linguistics, philosophy.

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  1. Maybe the "horse power" is metric? 🤣
  2. They have been trying to sell that car for a couple years now (I think it may have changed hands once during that time?). Usually asking too much for what (little) was and (a lot) wasn't there. It would be a crime to scrap such a rare body which could easily be mated to an appropriate chassis. The chassis that is with it is not correct, although I understand that it was used as a car this way, back in the '20s. The body could date anywhere from 1913 to about 1918, and the company built bodies for many different marques during the teens years (almost anything in a mid-size car with appropriate distance between the firewall and rear fender could work?). Hard to know for sure from the photos, however it looks to me like the body isn't all that bad (does need quite a bit of wood repaired and replaced, however mostly intact and not sagging badly. I suspect restoring the body wouldn't be all that difficult for the right person. Proper upholstery would cost a small fortune. It frankly just isn't worth much, in spite of its rarity and potential. I wish I was about four hundred miles closer and had a running tow vehicle (my Expedition is broke down). I certainly do not need any more major projects (and cannot afford to pay hardly anything?). But that? If I lived long enough I would love it!
  3. Oh boy Matt! Your last two posts really nailed much of what I have been yelling about for many years! Thirty five years ago, I saw this happening (the U-joint incident was a tuning point in my eyes), and have been speaking out against it all along. When WE, when our corporations and government, REWARD mediocrity and the selling out of all our most valuable resources (Our own hard working masses! Our ability to manufacture, and provide for ourselves as well as much of the rest of the world!), the absolute end result will be the loss of everything of value. Honesty and integrity are already GONE! We cannot even provide for ourselves in a viral crisis (whether real or imagined?), and the likely-to-collapse economy will lead to more devastation and death (yes, DEATH) than the virus would have ever done on its own! Following is part of what I wrote and sent to an antique automobile and internet friend just last night. "The only real hope we have is that no less than fifty million Americans can WAKE UP in the next two years and DEMAND honesty and integrity in all things political, journalistic, and corporate behavior. From THAT, maybe we can get the liars and thieves out of power. What I have seen the past few months says that isn't likely to happen. It is entirely within the realm of probability that within a hundred years, the entire world could again be like it was in the "Dark Ages" 700 years ago. The "great land" that had wondrous power may become nothing more than another legend and tales told around the fire on cold winter evenings. It took two thousand years to go from the ancient Greek civilization to Robert Fulton's steam boat. And nearly two hundred years from that to Henry Ford and a hundred other "right people at the right time"! It could take another two thousand years before humanity can again achieve what we have had." Let me add, that in a major socioeconomic collapse, it would only take about two generations for ninety percent of what has been learned and developed in the past two hundred years to be LOST! As an industrial society, we would be back to steam boats and manual looms. Computers and electronic retrieval systems would die for lack of power and proper maintenance, and most books would have been burned or abandoned to rot in the ground. The people with the knowledge would have died off, so what would be left? Only the simplest technologies that could be rigged up from the remnants of what was. Steam engines and simple machines. Sorry. I have ranted enough. But I think so much of what we as a dominant species have accomplished, and what our real potential was (note, unless we turn this around SOON, that potential WAS!), was wonderful. Not just the technologies, and the ability to feed millions without working half of them to death, but the music, many arts, including movies and written stories, and of course our wonderful historic cars! And it could all be gone in a blink of the world's eye. I was not a "doomsdayer", despite how all this sounds. I was just never foolish enough to believe everything that came before I was born was simply OURS forever! We MUST take care of it, and US if we do not want to lose it all. Vigilance is forever. So is death. As said in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade", "CHOOSE WISELY!"
  4. I am hesitant to mention this. However you do need to understand that preserving, restoring and driving vintage, antique, or more modern collector cars is not the same thing as customizing, hotroding (in any of its many forms including the new "in" thing of "restomods"), or creating one's personal artwork from what once was someone else's car. The two hobbies, although related and both rooted in history, are quite different. Driving and/or showing them is different. The goals of the work are different. Understand. That neither way is really more right or wrong. Just different. One is about preserving something that was. The other is about remaking it into a personal expression. Both ways have a rightful place in the world, and many people richly enjoy both extremes. But many people also live fully in one end or the other. And that is also fine. We here, basically all of us, want to help you find your place, whichever (or both?) ends of the spectrum you will be happiest in.
  5. First, let me say that I very much respect and value Matt H's comments, advice, and expertise that he offers so often on this forum. I am fairly sure it was something from him a year or two ago that saved me some headaches last month! (I read, I remembered, THANK YOU!) However, I truly do wish I could get "what I pay for". It is a societal thing, and a huge problem that all of us will (and do) suffer from for a long time to come because of the way we actually cheat ourselves. I saw this turn about 35 years ago when my daily driver old pickup had a U-joint fail. Oh sure, there were already several cheap auto supply and part store chains, and most of their stuff was relative junk. I had learned years before (from a young age) to buy good stuff because it paid off in the long run. Most auto parts in those days were much better quality from auto/machine shops that charged twice as much, but you did get the quality that you paid for. Kragen in those days had my U-joint (cheap name) for seven dollars. The auto/machine shop had a major name brand U-joint for fourteen dollars (twice as much). Since only one of the two U-joints had failed (water ingress), I only replaced the one with the $14 major name brand. Five months later, I hear a U-joint going bad. I start kicking myself, shoulda spent the money and time replacing both etc. Comes the weekend, I pull the drive shaft out again, and find the old one with 160,000 miles on it is still fine. The NEW "major name brand" one is shot! I take it out, find it is very soft, and take it back to the shop I had favored for several years. Sorry, out of warranty. They show me another brand new major name brand U-joint. I carefully pull one of the roller caps off, take out my pocket knife, and cut a slice off the bearing surface. I hand it back to the counterman and tell him it is useless and I will not buy it (I did not actually ruin it, it was already of NO value). He just said meekly "okay", and I left. I went to Kragen (half a block away), and asked to see one of theirs. My knife could not make a mark on it, so I bought it. It had about 60,000 miles on it when I sold the truck a couple years later. The twice as expensive major name brand had less than 10,000 miles on it when it failed. Unfortunately, since then, I have seen hundreds of examples of "cheaper isn't always junk", and often the cheaper part or tool may even be better than the one that costs twice as much. I don't know what the answer is. I am not a big fan of massive government intervention (for a lot of reasons). But some level of government intervention IS needed. Companies NEED to be held accountable for their actions, and their lies. There is no excuse for what happened to the OP's car, or how he was treated after-the-fact. And these thing happen virtually every day. Where we live in fire-prone Califunny, incompetent interstate truck drivers catch their trucks on fire way too often because they do not understand HOW to drive a truck down a long hill of interstate highway 80. During the false spring a couple months back (we always get about three weeks of very warm weather late January or February), three massive truck fires occurred in ONE week! Summer is coming.
  6. It probably would actually do both, be better and worse! Electricity can be really funny stuff. Your "dragging a chain" comment reminds me of stories Dad used to tell. High voltage and/or high power (remember, those are two totally different things!) engineers used to like to mess with people. RF (radio frequency and/or broadcasting) engineers when dealing with outsiders would sometimes wear an ankle or wrist chain, and make it be seen. The "visitor" wold comment about it and be told that it was for "grounding around the high power environment". They would also be told that since the engineer was "acclimated" to the environment, only the small chain was necessary. Then shown a bit heavier chain and told to put it on his wrist. The chain would be a few inches too short to reach the floor so the person would need to walk around stooped over to keep contact with the floor. One time when I was about ten, an engineer my Dad was consulting with made a comment that maybe I needed my "wrist chain, just a couple inches short so he has to stoop over" (I was about ten), and I commented back that I would just wrap it around my ankle. The engineer had a stunned look on his face and turning to Dad said "He is already an engineer!" (Obvious simple fix!) Actually, I had a bit of time to think about it. I had accompanied Dad to places since before I was five, and had seen the trick chains in broadcasting studios. (Probably KRON channel four in San Francisco where Dad was the outside color television specialist that fixed problems the in-house engineer could not. Dad was one of the first independent color broadcasting engineers in the SF Bay Area.) Dad could be very difficult often. However, he was brilliantly intelligent. With most "electrical" type engineers, they will be very good at either high voltage/high power, OR electronics. He was a master at both.
  7. It is well known, that electricity "generally" follows the path of least resistance (not entirely true). However, ALL electronics are based upon "balancing resistances". Some of the electricity goes this way, some goes that way, other goes other ways. The problem with very high voltages, and also high energy (power, not the same as voltage which is "push") is that resistances get overloaded in a millisecond and force the power to go elsewhere. Dad used to say that lightning pathways were about as predictable as bouncing a freeze-dried pea shaking it inside a tin can. Airplanes get hit by lightning so often that most people that know about it simply don't worry about it. They get hit often, usually in cloud to cloud (not cloud to ground) lightning because the horizontal discharge in cloud to cloud finds that mostly metal airplane frame and skin the "path of least resistance" for the full length and/or wingspan of the plane. It is a very inviting "least resistance" and will actually divert lightning some significant amount (roughly a football field or even more). MOST of the times, the charge will dance around the outer shell and frame of the plane. This is partially by design. For more than a half century, airplane design has taken lightning into account and a combination of isolation and grounding protects vital systems and occupants. Even before such engineering was figured out (think 1950s), even without the isolation and grounding (not nearly as simple as the words make it sound!!!), usually, planes were not harmed seriously enough to cause crashes or serious injuries to occupants. There were some exceptions to that. I can recall news stories from my childhood about emergency landings, deaths on board, and even crashes before those things were worked out. Today's planes are far more reliant upon technology to be flown. Those systems today would be a nightmare if the isolation and grounding hadn't been worked out a half century ago. I never went for a degree. But having grown up around it have a fairly decent understanding and have had fun playing with the stuff my whole life. When I was in grade school, using a science kit I begged for, I made a little box with aluminum foil on the four outer sides. Two pieces of foil, isolated. It used a (today we would call it a AA) penlight battery, with a step up circuit. the 1.5 volt penlight battery was stepped up to nearly 2000 volts at nearly zero current (power). I would sit the box on my desk at school, and just wait for someone to pick it up. Practically speaking, "voltage" cannot hurt a person. It is "current" or power that does the damage. 2000 volts even at almost zero power does bite. The most fun was after everyone became wise (they thought) to it, they would dare me to pick it up, and I would. It never bothered me to get the shock. I knew it was safe. They would think I had shut the battery off and then they would pick it up again. To this day, I will sometimes touch spark plug connections on a running engine just to mess with people. Antique automobiles are so much fun! They didn't cover the top of the spark plug!
  8. I wouldn't "over-think" this too much. If one lives in a seriously lightning prone area, and is worried about being struck, one should do some serious research on the subject. High voltage discharge can be funny stuff. Thousands of variables, many things most people would never think of (like ozone pathways) make it very difficult to predict. My Dad was an electrical engineer, with specialties in high voltage and often consulted after-the-fact in lightning damage to determine who got to pay for the repairs. A typical convertible top car will roughly double your likelihood of being hit by lightning over a steel roof car. If for instance, your circumstances would make you a one in ten thousand target? Doubling that would make you roughly a two in ten thousand target (not actually 1 in 5000, but close enough for discussion's sake). Still not high on the "worry-o-meter". In the first place, one is already sitting low to the ground. The car is somewhat isolated from the ground by rubber tires (although wet dirt in the rain can make a good pathway itself). Lightning (sky to ground type) usually aims for a high point that is somewhat grounded. Your sitting low somewhat insulated self is not a favored target, however, certain circumstances can make you a target. My Dad used to say that if one is in a lightning storm, and it is striking at the ground? Of course, look for a lower place. In a field near trees is good, NEVER under a tree or right next to a building or other structure. Then, pay close attention to how you "feel". IF the hairs on your neck (or head or arms or?) begin to stand out (or up) DROP TO THE GROUND and assume FETAL position (HUG YOUR KNEES!)! (Don't be driving when you do this!) This protects your heart, and minimizes the likelihood of a fatal discharge. MOST people killed by lightning are not actually struck by lightning. Everything on Earth has some amount of static electrical charge. The differentials in those charges can become extreme during lightning storms, and a lightning discharge nearby can shift the differentials of everything in the vicinity, thus resulting in a discharge of its own. To rephrase my first sentence. Don't over think this. If you worry too much about a remote possibility of being struck by lightning? Your panic is more likely to cause you to make a foolish mistake, like crashing the car, or running recklessly and slipping or falling, or worse yet, hiding under something the lightning will want to hit. Also. IF by (remote) chance, the car you are in is hit by lightning? (Or a downed power line?) DO NOT simply open the door and step out! Unless there is a compelling reason to leave the car, it is best to open the door, and remain inside the car. Warn anyone that comes along to not touch the car. After awhile, it will normalize its static charge, or someone that knows how, can ground the car carefully to make it safe. If you MUST leave the car (like there may be a fire? Or medical attention is needed?). Try not to touch the metal of the car, and jump out, not touching the car and the ground at the same time. Rubber soled shoes help a lot.
  9. I don't think the retaining wall was adequately reinforced? Could have been really bad if that shopping mall's parking lot was full and people hanging around.
  10. Nice to know all is back to normal and we can drift off to things NOT antique automobile? No, I am NOT complaining. I am just pleased that at least for a few moments, all is right with the world. I may not be much of a sports fan, but I do like to see others enjoy it. Even on antique automobile forums. No complaints here.
  11. I am so pleased. I figured there was a way to restore it, but also knew it was a possibility otherwise. In celebration, I already added a family photo to the restored thread.
  12. Fabulous! It has to be one of the finest collections of mostly incredible prewar cars I have ever seen on the internet! To celebrate, my wife's grandfather, standing next to one of the Pickwick Stages buses he drove in the late 1920s. He told me it was a Pierce Arrow bus, but I never confirmed that. He drove a very difficult and often very muddy area on California's Northern coast routes.
  13. I need to be a bit careful what I say. I am quite surprised that an entire thread can be accidentally lost. However, I do know it CAN happen. There SHOULD be a way to recover at least most of it. But I am not there, and frankly I lack the tolerance levels required to deal with programming issues. And my son (a programmer) is not there. And, I do know that it is possible to lose an entire website, or any part of it, let alone a single thread. Beyond that. Regardless. gwells, KNOW that we value you as a friend and fellow hobbyist. YOU are more important to us than any stack of photos, especially since the photos do still exist. Do not torture yourself. Hold your head up high, drive your antique and enjoy the friendships of the hobby of which you are still a valued member.
  14. (Me chuckling like a loon!) You are SO-O bad! But I do so love it when those kind of fools get what they deserve! It does however, sadden me when decent (although not truly desirable) usable parts get lost in the process. The sad fact is, that there are a lot of parts for untold thousands of collector cars that there will simply never be enough need for even a small fraction of the surviving extra parts. One really does need to KNOW the collectibles they chose to deal in. The difference between the proverbial "gold mine" and a ten cent piece of scrap is often in minute details.
  15. It may have been an '04. I saw a bunch of pictures of it a few years ago, including some really nice detail closeups. It was beautiful!