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Walt G

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  1. And the car still exists! It is in the Harrah collection. Have seen it in person a few years ago. Magnificent. It was stored for decades in California before Harrah's bought it . It was under cover but not in a great enclosure. Today many would use the word " barn find " even though that is a over used description just like the words classic, iconic, rare and patina are.
  2. Thank you for this. It puts history in proper perspective! Many times the local or national factors that are going on or not going on have had affect on the auto industry- mechanically, sales, design, even just getting supplies to the manufacturers etc. We all think specifically of the particular vehicle of group of vehicles but rarely do authors take into account the economics, location, etc. There was no inter state road system that could accommodate large tractor trailers hauling new cars, parts for them etc . I try to bring the whole picture into focus when I research and write the stories I do. That is what ABear has done.
  3. OK, I am a week or so behind posting this due to commitments to finish a story or two for publication as well as other essential things in life. BUT I have to thank all of you who have contributed here to this "period Images" thread. I started it 4 years ago in March of 2020 to get all of us out of the doldrums of the pandemic when we couldn't attend anything. It was also done because of my personal interest in pre WWII era vehicles - not just cars, not just American made ones , but all from everywhere. I thought this thread would last about 3 months - MAYBE and then fade. there are about 25 photos /images per page, it proves how much interest there is and also appreciation of the pre WWII era. The period stuff takes us back into the era, as do the settings where the vehicles are photographed as well. The architecture, cast lamp posts, street signs, fences, the lettering on the vehicles and on the windows of stores. All of that - Yes, I am a local and state ( non vehicle) historian too and this year makes 25 year since I started the local historical society. SO I am posting here an image from the Lincoln sales catalog/portfolio that was also used in the souvenir program for the custom body salons of a Model L Lincoln Coaching brougham by Judkins. This means a lot to me for many reasons- I love horse drawn coaches as much as cars, and I love art work - I own the original opaque water color rendering you see here that was done by Roland Stickney. A long time friend who is on here and goes by 3makes found it for me in Ct. decades ago and asked if I wanted to own it. THANKS to all of you , Thanks to AACA and to the moderators who have to cope with all this old stuff ( images, photos and people!) Walt
  4. Everything that Wayne states is why I questioned the "diamond" description for the sedan. Diamond Reo trucks sure, that I had heard of for many decades, but a Diamond car? Huh? there are enough learned car types out there to question even basic titles/names ( these forums are proof of that) and to guess at what you are trying to promote for sale just leaves many of us rolling our eyes. We are not looking for a whole history of a particular make but at least get the title correct. Mistakes in print eventually get passed on and myth becomes fact....................
  5. Thanks so much to the Botrz cars collection for taking the time and effort to move all those amazing cars from the mid west to the west coast! Quite an undertaking to make sure all arrived safely . This is all for the benefit and visual education of styling- seeing them in person! How incredible is that? Decades ago when Bill Mitchell retired from G.M. Styling Studios G.M. trucked out at least a half dozen of his styling experimental cars to the NY Auto show in Manhattan. I was there on Press Day to see the cars in person and just happened to be there when Bill Mitchell walked in as well. There is nothing like seeing a 3 dimensional form on wheels in person. Bill Mitchell ( he instructed me not to call him Mr.) and I spoke about that as he learned that I taught art. Reflections on the painted surface changing as you walk around. etc. Walt
  6. YES, my thoughts exactly when I got to the last photo. HUH!
  7. We all were there once, a novice same as you, and the education comes with time. You have the sincere interest THAT IS WHAT MATTERS . Great that you see people are not trying to be harsh just letting you be more aware of what to consider when looking at a vehicle. It is all good. Walt
  8. Measurements PLEASE! depth of the shell/core plus height at center and side and also as George states the diameter of the upper neck. Yet another guessing game is it 20 inches wide, 35 inches, 18 54/64 inches? ........
  9. I agree with all the positive comments here, This is great to see a "Then" and "Now" photo ! thank you so much. John S. especiailly notes what I feel as well. Walt
  10. J E. G thank you for that update and more information ! Love the photos of the hangar. Like my friend the late Al Nippert, I kinda like Zeppelins too - have a large embossed towel out of the Graff Zeppelin that was in the estate of a noted automotive journalist in the pre WWII era - John J. Ide. Also have a 2 inch enameled lapel pin for the Graff Zeppelin as well I bought at an antique/junk store in England decades ago. Plus a few pressed steel large Zeppelin steel toys made here in the USA. Eye candy, none of what I have was ever bought for an "investment" , obtained because it was historically cool looking.................
  11. It would help us help you if you could give us the size of the rim? diameter?
  12. the shutters were painted black as stated and so was the center bar of the shell from the factory. Keep in mind that these assemblies ( shell, shutters) were put together in batches by workers - not each one on its own for every car made. The black was the general color that the factory wanted so all were done that way. There was an assembly line! had to be. The interior of the factory was designed to accommodate PRODUCTION. ( not a guess on my part I toured the factory several times when it was still standing from the basement to the top floor ) If there was a request to have the shutters the body/hood color this was done, but a lot of the time at the local dealership because the customer when seeing the car may have requested that. All this was discussed when I used to host the former employees gathering/talk at the trek in the 1970s helping Chape Condit at first and then he encouraged me to basically organize it each year as he advanced in years) . That question was asked then and is still being asked.
  13. Depends upon condition, are the spots at the lower corner you show on the glass or on the paper? Does it have an creases in the poster where it was sent folded to the dealer? If so are they starting to tear through at that point. Is the frame original to the poster or is it one that was added by you or someone else ? This will all determine value.
  14. Depends upon who buys it and where they are located, with possible transmission issues , still?? and the damage under the tail gate ( how did that happen? ) and was anything else affected besides the sheet metal? Not a small car and to pay to transport it to ? A haul to the east coast would not be inexpensive. And maybe at least $4,000? I am not knocking the car just trying to be realistic. I love Chryslers from that time period and completely agree with Matt Harwood's comments. It is still not dry in many parts of the USA to get a car hauled to . this coming from someone on the East coast.
  15. Yes, I agree with Terry = Simple Green is good stuff. If you use a hose etc and water gets into places you can't get a rag into , to dry it out if you have an air compressor you can "vacate" the water with the tip of an air hose turned up to some pressure. I used Simple Green to clean off the grime of 80+ years on a collection of fancy ornate cast figural motor meters I bought at Hershey this past October spray it on and let it work. ( used a tooth brush to then get the small areas clean before rinsing off).
  16. My Dad was not "into " cars of any era- they were used as daily transportation and well cared for ( weekly washing and waxing polishing when needed at least 3 or 4 times a year) but we never really went to look at cars/car shows until I became interested in "old cars" ( which in the early 1960s meant most anything with running boards and somewhat perpendicular styling) I never really liked the music that was current of my youth so jazz music was what make me realize that the cars of the same 1920s/30s era were what visually I liked. Family cars were a 1949 Pontiac station wagon and then a 1960 Plymouth station wagon. My hobby of old cars became my folks hobby as well as they had to drive me to car shows - the most influential show was the HCCA annual car show in Sept. at Ridgefield , Ct. It was pre WWII, at first 1935 was the cut off date to be able to put a car on the grass field. I lived for that show - people there were "real". My folks eventually drove the two cars I had on the road - 1931 Plymouth sedan and 1941 Packard 120 station wagon. they developed their friends in the car clubs, if I went to a car show in one of my cars and they were not along or were not driving the other of the two cars, all my friends immediately asked " where is Val and Jack' hoping they were alright. For decades our house became a meeting place for the local members of the Plymouth 4 Cylinder Owners Club in the tri state NY Metro area. Dad would help me work on the cars although he was not a mechanic. Cars became a family affair - my listening to jazz music of the 1920s-30s on TV programs like The Roaring 20s and the Untouchables was what really got me started as did the movie "Some like it Hot " - no not because of Marilyn Monroe but because of the cars!! 🙃 It got worse for me and my Dad after we met Austin Clark and were invited over to his house in Glen Cove, NY ( in 1967) and besides the cars I saw his library! Car History became important and still is - is that a surprise to anyone?
  17. 1908 8 page ( total no outer thicker stock cover , it never had one from new ) for the type H, I, G. 6 x 91/4 inches coated stock paper. Had two staples to hold pages together, one is now gone and pages are splitting at the seam. Otherwise in very good condition, no marks smudges etc. Shows 4 body styles. This is 116 years old so take that into consideration but condition is good . Price is $50.00 and will include USPS priority mail - but not insurance ( that would cost you extra) to the lower 48 states. NO OFFERS or "I'll give yas, do bettas" . Personal checks are ok but will have to wait to clear. No returns once purchased. Contact me by message .
  18. Terry thanks for posting the information and picture in the book you have that now gives all of us an idea about what is being sought by the fellow who posted the "want" . Walt
  19. I don't mind the whitewall tires, but the car needs polished trim rings on the outer edge to make the transition of your eye from white wall to the center of the wheel with the smaller hubcap. that extra bit of trim ring will make that complete. Look at the wheel on the 1953 210 coupe - that has the polished trim ring and also a light colored wheel.
  20. A prime example of the Success that has happened is the ANNUAL LITERATURE SALE AND BOOK SIGNING at the annual AACA Fall meet in Hershey , Pa. AACA and the Society of Automotive Historians have a joint event at the AACA Headquarters. Lots of people already in Hershey for the Fall extravaganza. It is a huge undertaking early at the start of "Hershey week" and you see people there from all over the world. The camaraderie is OUTSTANDING. This is the kind of cooperation and activity that I am just so proud and happy to see and be a part of. My view is not just as an AACA member ( since about 1965) but as a former Officer, board member and Editor of the SAH. Walt
  21. I agree with all the sage comments and observations stated, lots of water staining as well - trunk and seats. NEAT CAR , love it, but unreali$tic price.
  22. That visit to the Moyer factory and inside was 40 years ago when I was a member of the Franklin Club and active in organizing and running their annual trek in August . (I no longer am a member - for me the club's focus changed direction.) . Have been there since to see the exterior of the Moyer building but not at least for 20 years. Yes, I took photos, where they are after 40 years ??? I know I still have them but to take the time to locate them in my somewhat vast library just won't happen. I am aware to look for them now while looking for other material but can't specifically devote time to just do that. Hope you can understand. Walt
  23. Thanks A.J. for the photos. We all have our own personal likes and interest in cars. Post war boy racer types just do not do anything for me - but I also like 4 door hardtops, station wagons and 4 door sedans in postwar cars. Looking at the photo of the polished alumoslab I see in the right of that photo the nose of a 1955(?) Chrysler in black - THAT is my kind of car for that era. Yes I am a fogey. 😬
  24. Thanks for sharing Mike, appreciate that so we can all even know this kind of stuff exists! I am an author so words are important BUT I also taught art for 35+ years and know that viewing an image added to the words just gives all of us the much bigger "picture" of what actually was there and happened.
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