Walt G

I agree Larry, brass can tarnish at a glance sideways!! saw this happen locally with a car club that was independent and had 1932 as the cut off date for cars participating. Most of the brass cars had covers for the lamps , usually overnight if parked outside but often when running during the day and cars being driven .

I have stated this before and I will continue to state it " myth becomes fact" in "history" depending upon who is convinced that know the "real " story. As has been stated her also : show us the documentation. Thanks to all with considerable knowledge for you input here, especial 46 woodie and my friend Terry Bond. Walt PS this just doesn't apply to the old cars we love - state and local history get the same battering with claims to fame " George Washington slept here" " our great great great etc grand cousin's neighbor came over on the Mayflower". 🙄

there were two types of Ryan lights - both mentioned here and both in production in 1929. Large at 12 inches in diameter. The series 13 model 135 and 137 used the bullet shaped Ryan lights with the distinctive lens. I had never seen the style with the raised area in the shell that are pictured - pretty neat looking lamps, to bad there are no rims or lens.

Larry Thank you for what you have shared with all of us - OUTSTANDING - great information along with period factory images. I do like natural wood wheels but it depends upon the year and I think that wood wheels with really long spokes can look a bit awkward with natural wheels and white walls. Painted wood wheels with the shorter and huskier wood spokes look great painted and what you show with the painted wheels and that white accent stripe was just so period and authentic looking. Most all need a pin strip of some kind. Of course some reading this will say "yeah his opinion, no big deal " but I have for over 50 years studied, styling, paint of all types ( for cars and , paintings, lettering on windows/buildings/ commercial vehicles) I went to school to study art so any paint etc was of interest not just oil or water color paint in a tube! Walt

This can be said for a number of objects - just to find the right person who has the knowledge how to restore something - be it a part, a sign, clock, lamp etc and do it correctly and authentically can be an issue. There are a lot of self proclaimed experts out there .

I am still seeking any issues of AUTOBODY magazine 1921 to 1931 , have some literature ( pre war) and some figural motor meters to trade. or will pay $. Walt

Outstanding looking Buick 2 door sedan/coach. Love the colors too. Great harmony of style and design - how the headlamps compliment the style of the radiator shell and the cowl lights echo the headlamps. Naysayers will probably question the white wall tires but to me the whole car "works" as a unit and the car does not have any added lamps etc to accent anything - doesn't need it. Thanks Larry. Walt

Model T open air bus - Perfect for the national Eastern annual Fall meet in Pa. Imagine the revenue that could be generated for a ride around in that even briefly, to sniff the aroma of chocolate in the air . Yeah I have to many thoughts and ideas. 🤩

Is the event primarily a post war car show? I do see pre WWII era machinery but just wondered of the ratio of pre WWII vs. post WWII .

Craig I can appreciate your last few sentences, you are a man of your word as were your family before you who ran the best parts house /store on long island that I first knew in the early 1960s. Some of us always will remember the "good guys" with great memories and great parts. OK folks "the Big H" is about 6 months away - is the only flea market that I have a vendors space at. Thanks to all who gave us a report of the happenings at Carlisle. Walt

MEASUREMENTS will help! how wide is it at its widest point? 10 inches 14 inches ? nothing to reference to act as our guide to help you...............😬

I agree completely I have stated here often about the lack of welcoming new people into the old car hobby. This is especially true of a luxury car club that I used to belong to but left about 6 years ago after being a member for over 45 years. We are the good will ambassadors to the antique, classic, special interest car enthusiasts. It is up to us to be the welcoming person to the "newbies". Great to have friends and talk to them as they own the same type of cars belong to the clubs etc BUT do not ignore the new comers. If you want to see interest in the cars continue then you have to make the effort to welcome people.

Thank you so much for taking the time to take the photographs to share with all of us, MOST appreciated. Walt

I still have this available, was contacted by a man who said he would buy it but never heard anything since. Another insincere wanna be.

May help if you could give us some measurements especially the over all length

This is the shop of Brooks- Ostruck coach builders taken from a period sales item that they issued to promote their ability and sales of their coach built bodies. Their shop was located on the west side of Manhattan ( N Y City) not far from Central Park on the South West corner , building remains mostly unaltered except for newer windows that are more energy efficient. . The building is still there . Both Emerson Brooks and Paul Ostruck were active in the automotive industry in New York City in the era immediately after WWI.

Terry - YES INDEED. Just wonderful my friend to see this . Thanks for the on going sharing of your great collections of collections and your comments to make us all aware of exactly what we are viewing. Walt

Once again the period photos of vehicles also bring into recognition of what else was essentially everyday occurrence then and is now totally obscure and forgotten. The digits of phone numbers for vehicles on the vehicles and on buildings - it is the broad perspective of what was going on then, makes us now possibly think and in a way be there then.............. I think it is so very important to be aware of the whole big picture of what life was like , what was considered "normal" ( and now forgotten history) because all of it affected the creation, manufacture, promotion, sales, and ownership of the vehicles we now take the time to restore and appreciate. Those simple phone numbers give us great insight into how they were used, how contact was made to the general public. ALL of this in an era before the medium was created that you are now using to see what is here. Appreciate what was then , the big picture................

The same here on western long island! There also were "party lines" where you picked up the phone handle and listened, if you didn't hear anyone talking you could make a call, but if you did hear voices you know the line was already in use by someone else! You could just listen to their conversation! even talk to them if you dared!

Nothing more I can help you with , another place to look for information is the supplement sections of NY Newspapers of the era - they would have reports on the auto shows and sometimes the salons. Would print a additional section to cover that auto show and many local dealerships took advertising in that as well listing all the dealers in the Metro NY area. Some photos issued by the PR department of the car manufacturers were used as well. Some great illustrations/images only seen in those newsprint advertising. I have several in my collection but not for the particular year you seek.

I completely agree, but the advertising that was done for the 1931-32 Plymouth especially in the large color ads in the Saturday Evening Post showed most of the cars with white walls. WHY ?? - It sold cars, got people into the showroom to look. Same reason a lot of the cars in magazine ads were in bright colors - to attract attention - same way if a car was in a showroom - usually an open roadster in bright colors, it was the WOW factor. But people at that time were very very conservative and the economic situation in the world did not see a lot of people wanting to attract attention to themselves and their new car because a huge amount of people didn't have enough $ for one good meal a day.

I like white walls on cars ,not all but some. The big factor that also plays into the appearance is the color of the wheels. White walls and if fitted with wire wheels a dark color or one that matches the body and hood color if that is dark. If the car has side mounted spare tire that is also a factor and those in my opinion should have tire covers, metal painted or canvas also in dark colors. Wheels with long narrow type spoke wheels call even more attention to the sphere shape of the wheel/tire. Short wood spoke wheels of the 1931 - 1934 era can look great if painted or finished in natural color, tires depend upon the diameter of the wheels . For me there is no general overall "rule" that white or black tire will just be the best no matter what year or make or tire size.

One of the early active members of the Plymouth 4 cylinder Owners Club named Earl Buton had one that he drove everywhere. I believe that the 1932 DeSoto shared the same body as the Plymouth. A good friend had a DeSoto conv sedan and all major sheet metal, top irons etc seemed to be exactly the same. I also believe the body style is shown in both the Plymouth and DeSoto sales catalog for 1932, I have both so will take a look when I have the time.

George Your second paragraph says it all, has so much meaning. Viewing "REAL" items sparks an interest - generates questions which get answers that then generate more questions and thought. WWI is long forgotten as are the personalities that were so important to the world at that time that formed the world we now live in. Hands on learning and seeing are so much more important then push button instant knowledge. I wondered what the reaction was to your display and as you mention the fear it generates with show organizers because something may fall over. Few people who collect older vehicles ( ie pre WWII ) understand how a gun company would make motor vehicles, or the economic affect vehicle production had on a country - Packard Motor Car Co. had an immense sale of trucks to Europe in the WWI era.Made a fortune - so did the rail roads who transported those trucks from Michigan to NY City so they could then go into the hold of ships to get to Europe. We need to think of the whole picture, not just a year and make and model but WHY? Many people who are now grandparents never know what went on. Walt

Really nice to see a show titled and focused on "Pre War" since the modern trend is to go to post war parts, cars, paper, and everything else.