Remember last year a Cargo ship sank off Georgia with 4,000 brand new cars inside well they are salvaging it and the salt water did a number on the cars.

[Mark Gregory]

First glimpse inside a sunken cargo ship: 400ft anchor chain slices through the Golden Ray to reveal 4,200 Hyundai cars not seen since the vessel capsized last September off Brunswick, Georgia

• The Golden Ray capsized near the Port of Brunswick in September 2019, with 4,000 cars onboard
• Engineers are finally demolishing the boat, using an anchor chain to saw it into eight sections 
• A giant floating crane is lifting up parts of the dismantled ship before they will be taken to Gulf coast

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9010779/Anchor-chain-slices-sunken-cargo-ship-reveal-4-200-Hyundai-cars-inside.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gossp]

Every single one of those cars will be available on Craigslist:  “no low ball offers, I know what I got.”

[Matt Harwood]

Jesus, an anchor chain can slice through a ship and everything in it like a laser? Holy crap.

[1937hd45]

19 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

Jesus, an anchor chain can slice through a ship and everything in it like a laser? Holy crap.

 

I'm calling BS on that too. Bob 

[64avanti]

1 minute ago, 1937hd45 said:

 

I'm calling BS on that too. Bob 

Nope. Absolutely true. Look it up. There are videos of the chain in action.

[John348]

3 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

 

I'm calling BS on that too. Bob 

 

Me Three!  It is too smooth of an edge

[Matt Harwood]

What parts COULD be salvageable from those cars? Wheels? Glass (if it's intact)? Would that even be permissible?

[SC38dls]

Seats!  Never sat on recently washed! 

[John348]

24 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

What parts COULD be salvageable from those cars? Wheels? Glass (if it's intact)? Would that even be permissible?

 

Is it being salvaged for the scrap value of the metal?

Edited December 3, 2020 by John348 (see edit history)

[Frank DuVal]

1 hour ago, John348 said:

Is it being salvaged for the scrap value of the metal?

 

That's the ship scraping business!

1 hour ago, John348 said:

Would that even be permissible?

 

Depends. Who owns it? Typically the insurance company that paid off.  Off topic, but they are in court right now  about who owns the radio equipment on the Titanic, as one group wants to remove it for display in a museum.🤔

[edinmass]

Interesting, I knew they used cables to cut up ships, never knew they used chains.

[kgreen]

 

[Studemax]

You guys need glasses if you think that looks like it was cut with a laser. It looks like they use a giant can opener. The edges are so jagged it's crazy.

[padgett]

"who owns the radio equipment on the Titanic" - I thought at the time the Marconi company leased radio systems used on ships and never gave up ownership.

[JimKB1MCV]

  The same cutting procedure was used a few years ago on a boxboat that turned turtle in Europe, the technology isn't new.

  The chain uses embedded diamond cutters to cut the hull/cargo.

 

  Titanic's Marconi gear was leased to the shipping company, but its probably moot anyway because there may not be much left to salvage. 

[Guest]

Scrap metal salvage is only a by product of the ships removal.

 By US law, no ship can be abandoned in territorial waters.

[Frank DuVal]

Yes, but who registers a cruise or container ship in the US? 

 

Panama

Liberia

Marshall Islands  

 

Are all more registered ships than the US.

 

https://www.offshore-energy.biz/liberia-confirmed-as-second-largest-ship-registry-in-the-world/

 

As to the Marconi gear on the Titanic, it is local news for us, as a Virginia judge decided what to do:

 

http://www.arrl.org/news/federal-judge-okays-retrieval-of-titanic-marconi-wireless-equipment

 

4 hours ago, JimKB1MCV said:

Titanic's Marconi gear was leased to the shipping company, but its probably moot anyway because there may not be much left to salvage. 

 

OK, it does have  a little salt water deterioration, but not like it had oxygen at that depth.

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02/28/metro/photo-gallery-explore-titanics-wireless-rooms-where-desperate-messages-were-sent-ships-final-moments/

 

I just clicked "close" when it asked to log in, and got to see the pictures.

[Billy Kingsley]

Why does that one gray suv look perfectly fine (minus the crushing) and the others don't? That one doesn't look like it's been underwater at all.

[gpfarrell]

8 minutes ago, Billy Kingsley said:

Why does that one gray suv look perfectly fine (minus the crushing) and the others don't? That one doesn't look like it's been underwater at all.

 I think it was above the waterline.  Look at the white one in the top picture, it looks like the same white one just below and to the left of the gray SUV.  Then, still in the top picture, look to the left side of the image where you can see the top deck of the boat.  Looks like the boat was laying on its left side with a crud line that runs right down the middle.  The crud was underwater.  The gray SUV would have been above the water.

[46 woodie]

Billy, the ship didn't capsize per say, it lust went over onto it's side in fairly shallow water. About half of its superstructure wasn't in the water. The cars on the starboard side of the ship slid down onto the port side cars as it went over.

[ericmac]

Yet another reason not to buy a Hyundai!

[Restorer32]

Ran when sunk.

[1937hd45]

Any do it yourselfers trying to cut a steel wheelbarrow in half with a length of dog chain? How is it going? 

 

 

Bob 

[TAKerry]

1. I too think thats incredible that they are cutting that thing with a chain, who knew?

2. Never realized how they 'stacked/stored' the cars in those ships. I would be claustrophobic driving cars in and out of one of those things!

 

I saw some ytube videos of a ship graveyard in Asia someplace, may have been India, where they just beach the ships then start ripping them apart for scrap. The work looked very crude and dangerous, but hey they were getting it done!

[George Cole]

8 minutes ago, TAKerry said:

1. I too think thats incredible that they are cutting that thing with a chain, who knew?

2. Never realized how they 'stacked/stored' the cars in those ships. I would be claustrophobic driving cars in and out of one of those things!

 

I saw some ytube videos of a ship graveyard in Asia someplace, may have been India, where they just beach the ships then start ripping them apart for scrap. The work looked very crude and dangerous, but hey they were getting it done!

Doesn't look like it from the pictures, but the overheads would have to be at least 6' to accommodate the SUVs.

[Billy Kingsley]

That makes perfect sense, thanks.

[CarlLaFong]

4000 Hyundais?? Losses are expected to be in the twelves of dollars

[Dan Reed]

I want to see a CARFAX report on all those cars

 

[John_Mereness]

A friend takes damaged cars from X automobile manufacturing company and then cleans them up and cleans them out and ... (including they can get an interior and dash kit among other kits) to send the cars then over to Countries who no restrictions on salvage and .... - mainly flood damage, tornado damage, theft damage, vandalism, and ....

[Bryan G]

6 hours ago, John_Mereness said:

A friend takes damaged cars from X automobile manufacturing company and then cleans them up and cleans them out and ... (including they can get an interior and dash kit among other kits) to send the cars then over to Countries who no restrictions on salvage and .... - mainly flood damage, tornado damage, theft damage, vandalism, and ....

I've heard of companies that export totaled vehicles and have body shops aboard the ship. I guess in some cases they can have the car fixed (good enough) by the time they reach port. Airbags? Seat belt pretensioners? Active grille shutter? Who needs 'em! Patch them up and ride.

[Billy Kingsley]

For many people just having something that runs is far more important than if all the bells and whistles work.

[padgett]

" just having something that runs is far more important than if all the bells and whistles work" maybe so but have been blessed in always being able to acquire "more".

[John348]

12 hours ago, Bryan G said:

I've heard of companies that export totaled vehicles and have body shops aboard the ship. I guess in some cases they can have the car fixed (good enough) by the time they reach port. Airbags? Seat belt pretensioners? Active grille shutter? Who needs 'em! Patch them up and ride.

 

Apparently that happened after Sandy hit the NY Metro Area. If the salt water touched the lowest part of the rotors or brake drums the insurance adjusters totalled the cars. The title was then marked "for salvage only due to flood damage"

For weeks there were semi's leaving here with late model cars with visible water lines up to the windows. The word was they were sold overseas where the US paperwork does not matter. The paperwork is only needed to get it out of the US

[28 Chrysler]

That is not an anchor chain they are cutting it with. Why not call it a ( giant's ) necklace. Rocks can be cut with cotton string saturated with an abrasive slurry and it looks polished when done.

[John_Mereness]

15 hours ago, Bryan G said:

I've heard of companies that export totaled vehicles and have body shops aboard the ship. I guess in some cases they can have the car fixed (good enough) by the time they reach port. Airbags? Seat belt pretensioners? Active grille shutter? Who needs 'em! Patch them up and ride.

Manufacturers do it in US to send to countries where they do not have to offer same type of disclosures as in US - I assume they sell them as a demonstrator or ....