Thieves.......hang em high. - Stolen trailer

[John Bloom]

I am flying back to Chicago from Tucson this morning but got a call yesterday from a friend who lets me park my car trailer at his commercial business. The trailer is gone, likely stolen last weekend but not discovered till yesterday. There is a security tape we will review. Locks on the dropgate, side door, and hitch, but those can be cut off. 
 

wells cargo 20’
 

I hate thieves. 

 

[1937McBuick]

Not sure about the American justice system but the Canadian system is "CATCH AND RELEASE".

 

Problem is there are no real consequences for the perpetrators,  no accountability.   Some people are beyond rehabilitation.

 

Most of my comments pertain to the Canadian system,  I think America is alot tougher on crime than we are.

[Walt G]

So sorry to read this.

[30DodgePanel]

9 minutes ago, 1937McBuick said:

Most of my comments pertain to the Canadian system,  I think America is alot tougher on crime than we are.

We used to be but things have changed much since with our new socialistic policies. 

 

 

43 minutes ago, John Bloom said:

I hate thieves. 

Personally I think hemp is too easy. I'd like to see tools of the dark ages implemented for theives.

 

Hopefully they catch these guys and you get your trailer back in one piece. 

I've been robbed a few times and one got away but they caught the other two parties and returned my items. If you have film footage of them and what type of vehicle, it's probably just a matter of time before they catch them. 

There is hope...

 

 

[leomara]

While not getting political, it is truly a sorry state of affairs when billions of tax dollars are spent annually to support local, state and federal law enforcement agencies who in essence do nothing to protect the average citizen from theft crimes.  When will this lunacy end???

[SC38dls]

I once pulled in the driveway when a guy had broken into our porch walkway but not into the house yet. He was actually leaving very quickly as our 90 pound brown Doberman who loved to sleep on the brown leather couch bounded off the couch and broke thru a French door pane of glass with his nose and teeth trying to grab the guy. The guy ran, I let the dog out, the dog outran the guy and proceeded to bite the heck out of his leg and rear end. I called him back and never saw the guy again. That’s justice in my book. 
dave s 

 

ps- I guess that was a stealth alarm system. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by SC38dls (see edit history)

[Ben Bruce aka First Born]

39 minutes ago, leomara said:

While not getting political, it is truly a sorry state of affairs when billions of tax dollars are spent annually to support local, state and federal law enforcement agencies who in essence do nothing to protect the average citizen from theft crimes.  When will this lunacy end???

 When WE leave the "not" out of your first sentence?

 

  Ben

[60FlatTop]

It seems like the agencies are quite aggressive about prosecuting crimes with fines and surcharges attached to them. Other stuff, not so much.

Edited December 4, 2022 by 60FlatTop (see edit history)

[TAKerry]

John, sorry to hear of this. I hope it all ends well. Mine is parked behind my house, someone would have to pull down my driveway to get it but I sill would not rule that out. There was a story in the local paper about a stolen trailer, the owner had a ball lock out device attached. The thieves were actually caught red handed dragging it down the road. They just used the safety chains tied to their hitch. So even deterrents do not work.

 

Dave, many years ago dad bought a piece of property that was kind of out of the way but along a busy road (if that makes sense). He had a lot of his construction equipment and such stored there along with his home. He put a big sign at the end of his driveway that said 'Caution: Pit Bull on Premises, honk for assistance"  

Whenever someone came in they would honk the horn, one of us would go out and tell them it was safe to  come in. Dad even had a reputation as the guy with the pit bulls. We would get comments like 'where are the dogs, etc.'. The answer was that they were only let loose at night. He never had a problem with anyone snooping around. And as far as I know, most people never knew any different. Funny thing was, mom and dad were cat people. Never had a dog as long as I knew.

[zepher]

2 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said:

Personally I think hemp is too easy. I'd like to see tools of the dark ages implemented for theives.

 

I would be banned instantly if I posted about what I would like to do to thieves.
Remember the movie Hostel?

That would only be the beginning. 

 

[wayne sheldon]

John B, It makes me sick how out of hand this sort of thing has gotten. 

I know, a trailer is just "stuff"! Hey, insurance will compensate you you fatcat (intended snarky humor!). The problem is, that we ALL pay for it in our outrageous insurance premiums. My homeowner's insurance has nearly tripled in five years!

Now I had better bite my (typing) fingers.

[leomara]

Come on, prosecuting and incarcerating is so out of date.  We have to be sympathetic and understanding.  How are people who do not wish to work for a living going to exist if we do not allow them to pursue criminal activities with impunity?

[edinmass]

One of the best things about moving from Massachuetts to Florida is here the cops have no issues with protecting your property. Anywhere in Florida when trespassing you can expect to have a firearm pointed at you……quickly. They call it “The gunshine state”. The first day I moved into my house here we had three local teens come in through an unlocked door. They were surprised I had my Florida CCW and I was packing already. They ran, and the cops knew them just from my description. All were in custody in less than two hours. They all got a free vacation compliments of the state. Down here they practice zero tolerance for everything except traffic violations. Shoplifting here gets you in jail immediately, and you arraignment often takes a few days. So while there is drug and gang violence here it stays among their own crowd, property crime is relativity low. Criminals here fear both prosecution and an  armed populace

 

John, sorry for the loss of your property. None of us should have to fear property crime……..

 

And one fair warning when your a tourist here in Florida…….there is a saying among the locals. It applies to drinking and driving.

 

”Come one vacation, leave on probation”. They are particularly aggressive with tourists and drinking and driving. It’s a revenue stream for them. There are more fines and fees than you can imagine. And a quick streamlined process to get you to plead guilty, and pay. Don’t take the chance…….Uber 
 

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history)

[billorn]

Police don't exist to stop crime, they only exist to report on it after the fact. Stopping crime is too dangerous and not particularly lucrative.

 

Also, wanting to murder and torture people for non violent property crimes is psychopathic. I'm still sorry the trailer got stolen, that sucks, but wow.

[Angelfish]

One of my cousins walked in on two kids trying to steal his truck.  He works as a personal bodyguard for Fortune 500 executives.  The kids didn't get the truck.  I'd like to hear the story but he doesn't talk about his work.

[60FlatTop]

If my grandfather had something of value like a trailer he would have parked it with a big gob of grease or something equally disgusting to protect it.

 

If I had a car trailer it would probably have a sign stating "Disengage both brakes before moving"

[Peter Gariepy]

STOP THE POLITICS!

[John Bloom]

Just a follow up.  We got back home from Tucson last night after some flight cancellations.  Too late to engage on the stolen trailer.  

 

I just got home this morning from meeting the Sheriff's deputy at the location where we kept the trailer.  The local dispatcher took my call, was very friendly and professional.  She said she'd have someone there shortly.  In about 10 minutes the deputy arrived.  A nice younger guy about 30, looked like he could handle his business and only fools would provoke him.  He was very helpful and professional.  I know some people criticize the police, but it couldn't have gone any smoother from my perspective.  He took down all the information, initiated the numbered report so I can contact my insurance and he told me "there are some usual supects who are locals here that we know well and this looks like the stuff they do".  He told me there is a reasonable chance of it being recovered, but there is no telling what the condition may be if it is found.  He told me he'd follow up with the owner of the property to review their camera footage of the compound.  Sure enough in 20 minutes the owner texted me that they had called him and set up a time to meet.  

 

No one got hurt, I have insurance, the sheriff's staff was impressive......  moving on................

 

1 hour ago, billorn said:

Police don't exist to stop crime, they only exist to report on it after the fact. Stopping crime is too dangerous and not particularly lucrative.

 

Also, wanting to murder and torture people for non violent property crimes is psychopathic. I'm still sorry the trailer got stolen, that sucks, but wow.

Let me state for the record that I am not in favor of murder and torture for nonviolent crimes.  I suppose that you might think I feel that way because of the title of this post.  That is my fault and was meant tongue in cheek to express that I was pissed and frustrated.  Of course I don't want to kill someone for taking a 20 year old trailer.  

 

Let's drop this thread.  

 

Lock up your stuff, have insurance........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[30DodgePanel]

 

Obviously some of the harsh comments were humor in part. That humor is often missed by others but part of that responsibility is on the reader not to overreact in such a judgemental way too is it not? Calling someone who is the victim of a crime psychopathic is pretty extreme.

 

I commend you John B for your response and glad you got a hopeful report. 

 

 

[J.H.Boland]

Sometimes you have to wait for karma to kick in. My shop was broken into and a chain saw and can of gasoline was stolen. The chain saw was always cantankerous to get running.

A couple of weeks later, I saw what I'm sure was my chainsaw for sale on Kijiji. He ended his ad with "Will start eventually". I let him keep it !

 

[SC38dls]

A good BIG stealth dog, a good lock and insurance are the best way to give you that warm secure feeling. The dog that is very friendly but knows when you are not home, his job is protecting that home. He has plenty of time when you are home to do his other jobs, eating and sleeping. 
dave s 

Edited December 4, 2022 by SC38dls (see edit history)

[JamesR]

21 hours ago, TAKerry said:

He put a big sign at the end of his driveway that said 'Caution: Pit Bull on Premises, honk for assistance"  

Whenever someone came in they would honk the horn, one of us would go out and tell them it was safe to  come in. Dad even had a reputation as the guy with the pit bulls. We would get comments like 'where are the dogs, etc.'. The answer was that they were only let loose at night. He never had a problem with anyone snooping around. And as far as I know, most people never knew any different. Funny thing was, mom and dad were cat people. Never had a dog as long as I knew.

 

1 minute ago, SC38dls said:

A good BIG stealth dog, a good lock and insurance are the best way to give you that warm secure feeling. The dog that is very friendly but knows when you are not home his job is protecting that home. He has plenty of time when you are home to do his other jobs, eating and sleeping. 
dave s 

 

It's funny how people who are bold and audacious enough to break into your premises and steal your property are scared as heck of big dogs. If you've ever been around big rambunctious Rottweilers or Pit Bulls you can understand why.  Several years ago, there was a viral surveillance video of a thief as he was  caught by a pack of big Doberman guard dogs. Though the video didn't show it, the thief was killed and literally torn apart by the dogs. I won't link to the video as it may not be cool with the mods, but you may be able to find it online.

[30DodgePanel]

50 minutes ago, JamesR said:

 Several years ago, there was a viral surveillance video of a thief as he was  caught by a pack of big Doberman guard dogs. Though the video didn't show it, the thief was killed and literally torn apart by the dogs. I won't link to the video as it may not be cool with the mods, but you may be able to find it online.

Now THAT is instant karma...

 

Actually, Karma is a great name for a big dog. 

Appreciate the recommendation  

 

Stranger: "Why did you name your dog Karma?"

Me: "Are you sure you really want to know?" 

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history)

[60FlatTop]

I park one car at a storage barn during winter to give me working space. I have been warned to watch out for the male alpaca. They are mean by nature. The story goes that a dog can be trained to attack so their could be a liability for the owner. You can't train an attack alpaca. Burglar 101: Don't flirt with the alpaca.

[TTR]

3 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said:

STOP THE POLITICS!

👍

Besides, this topic and comments within it (AGAIN) have very little, if anything specifically to do with ANTIQUE AUTOMOBILES !

Edited December 4, 2022 by TTR (see edit history)

[30DodgePanel]

24 minutes ago, TTR said:

👍

Besides, this topic and comments within it (AGAIN) have very little, if anything specifically to do with ANTIQUE AUTOMOBILES !

Most antique car owners who own them and use them frequently will disagree that they have little to do with antique automobiles. Try telling that to those who tow antique cars for a living...

 

We all know the P topic can get ugly quick in todays world and have agreed to the zero tolerance policy, but to pretend a enclosed trailer of this size has very little to do with antique cars is a stretch don't you think?

 

[1912Staver]

Around here Cat. converter theft is out of control. A friend had his truck behind a 8 foot fence and video security / motion detectors. Caught it all at 2 AM , over the fence , under the truck, Cat. removed, back over the fence and driving away in less than 2 1/2 minutes. He didn't even have his shoes on yet let alone outside to confront them. $1,100.00 insurance claim. One of thousands each year around here.

[SC38dls]

A big friendly dog, to welcomed visitors, that is just bred to be protective of his people and property would be out the door circulating that truck keeping the thief under it until the cops came. You could actually take your time, have a cup of coffee or other libation before you went out to tell the dog to sit and stay while the perp tried to get comfortable with a load in his pants. The dog is faster than most if not all people, has much bigger teeth and bark, plus it’s even faster than you can go get your gun out of the gun safe. You also don’t waste the ammunition. 
dave s 

Edited December 4, 2022 by SC38dls (see edit history)

[DFeeney]

All my trailers have tongue locks. They are inexpensive and will stop the average "Crack Head" who doesn't want to hang around.  The trailers can still be stolen with more effort applied.  I would suggest tongue locks  as a bare minimum to prevent theft.

[Paul Dobbin]

On 12/3/2022 at 1:36 PM, SC38dls said:

I once pulled in the driveway when a guy had broken into our porch walkway but not into the house yet. He was actually leaving very quickly as our 90 pound brown Doberman who loved to sleep on the brown leather couch bounded off the couch and broke thru a French door pane of glass with his nose and teeth trying to grab the guy. The guy ran, I let the dog out, the dog outran the guy and proceeded to bite the heck out of his leg and rear end. I called him back and never saw the guy again. That’s justice in my book. 
dave s 

 

ps- I guess that was a stealth alarm system. 

     You won't get a Golden Doodle to do that!

[SC38dls]

If someone is stealing a trailer or an old car or a pack of gum it’s wrong!  Our old dog stopped the guy from getting into our house. We had locks on the porch door and the French doors and all the other doors on the house. That did not stop the guy from getting into the porch. The dog a brown 90 lb Doberman stopped the guy in a heartbeat. When I let him out he administered a just punishment and stopped the minute I called him off. I never trained him to do this, he just was born that way. He would also go up to a two year old and lick him on the face when the kid was pulling his ears. He would also garb that kid by the seat of the pants if the kid was running toward the street. Again never taught to do that he just came that way. I’ve never had another dog like him but sure wish the golden doodle could have been that smart. They would just wag their tails, try to open the door and lick the face of anyone breaking in the house. 

dave s 

[TAKerry]

2 hours ago, DFeeney said:

All my trailers have tongue locks. They are inexpensive and will stop the average "Crack Head" who doesn't want to hang around.  The trailers can still be stolen with more effort applied.  I would suggest tongue locks  as a bare minimum to prevent theft.

You must not have read my previous post. There was a trailer stolen near me awhile back. Had a hitch lock, they just wrapped the safety chain around the bumper and drove off with it. I dont know if 'boots' are commercially available but thats what I would go with.

 

Dave, Another dog story. 20 or so years ago we had boxers. We were building a new house. I built the kennel first and would take the dogs over first thing in the morning for the day. One day when we arrived, there were subcontractors in the house. The 2 dogs just about jumped through the windshield in my pickup trying to get at them. First I had ever seen that behavior. I felt very comfortable and safe with them from that time on. 

[SC38dls]

A good loyal dog just knows his job! 
dave s 

[Steve_Mack_CT]

John sorry to hear about the trailer but you have the right outlook.  Of course perps should get caught and punished but your keeping it in perspective is the right move!

 

Better the trailer than a car!!

Edited December 5, 2022 by Steve_Mack_CT (see edit history)

[TAKerry]

12 hours ago, SC38dls said:

A good loyal dog just knows his job! 
dave s 

I have small dogs now, may chew someones shoe string off, But, NO one comes near my house without them letting me know. Better than a burglar alarm.

[J.H.Boland]

16 hours ago, SC38dls said:

A big friendly dog, to welcomed visitors, that is just bred to be protective of his people and property would be out the door circulating that truck keeping the thief under it until the cops came. You could actually take your time, have a cup of coffee or other libation before you went out to tell the dog to sit and stay while the perp tried to get comfortable with a load in his pants. The dog is faster than most if not all people, has much bigger teeth and bark, plus it’s even faster than you can go get your gun out of the gun safe. You also don’t waste the ammunition. 
dave s 

Our 100 lb. collie mix is like that. Normally a big speed bump around the house, he sure springs to action when a car pulls in the driveway. He's especially fierce sounding when my wife is home alone. He'll stand right up at the glass door and bark in your face. When I let him out, most people will stand in place until I come out.

[EmTee]

Remove one or more of the wheels if the trailer isn't used regularly.

[SC38dls]

4 minutes ago, EmTee said:

Remove one or more of the wheels if the trailer isn't used regularly.

Just be sure you take the spare too!  
dave s 

[Steve_Mack_CT]

Life is indeed better and safer with a dog!

 

Here Miss Patty (Dane who thinks she is a lapdog) is showing our son's Corgi Paige (who thinks she is "big") the Packard. 

 

Danes are among the most gentle of dogs, unless they feel threatened...

[cutlasguy]

Last week I was shopping at the Giant when my daily driver was hit in the parking lot.I was in a handicapped spot and whoever hit me had tried to park beside me on the wheelchair accessible grid, much too narrow , not to mention illegal! My rear bumper cover was scraped all around the right hand corner and slathered with white paint, scraped from the other car. I went inside and the manager brought up the tapes. Sure enough, he could see the white car backing out and cutting to the left before clearing my car. He could see my car rock as it was hit, and the driver of the white car proceed to leave as if nothing had happened. Unfortunately the camera was too far away to reveal the plate number.

I have a 1972 Cutlass "S" and a 1989 Caprice Classic, both with Antique Plates and Insurance which, when I have them out,  I park in the middle of nowhere, just to prevent this from happening. I guess my handicapped placard is useless, as now I'll have to start doing the same with my daily driver!