Xander Wildeisen Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-Cord-Huppmobile-/222681745713?hash=item33d8ddc931:g:E~kAAOSw~l1Z5jXA&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I thought the front fenders were too big... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 So he managed to ruin both a Cord and a Hupp before giving up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I agree with Mark, the fenders look out of scale for the rest of the car. If that's the effect he is looking for well so be it, but I think they should match the size of the rear fenders. Also agree with Restorer, I hope that the cars that he cut up weren't restorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Art Center School of Tragic Design, huh. I Googled them for images. All their cars look alike. I'll stick with the Ag Center School of Tractor Design. Extensive modifications and capable of delivering a cash crop upon completion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 He needs to go back to design school........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) At first glance there are some features that remind me of the ATLAS Chrome delivery. Tough to sell a project at that point of the build, getting the project to look like the sketch is even tougher. Bob Edited October 18, 2017 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The artwork is really nice but the transformation to steel/fiberglass or whatever is not very true. Body work may be excellent. Reading the description makes me wonder what this actually means. " Except for top, most of the body and fender work is done". Is most 51% or 75% or 98%??? As well as design school perhaps he/she should brush up on English. Another dream that morphed into a nightmare. 21 minutes ago, 60FlatTop said: Art Center School of Tragic Design, huh. I Googled them for images. All their cars look alike. Just like many architects, barbers, hairdressers and other style professions where the person had/has one style only. In many smaller towns you can tell which resident frequents which barber shop or beauty parlour. In our city there was an home grown boy who became an architect. He did some very excellent looking buildings and if you drive around you can pick every one of his out. 53 minutes ago, Mark Shaw said: I thought the front fenders were too big... Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin j Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I have thought about building something like that but from scratch. this guys work would not come out the way the drawings show the body. look at the lines in the drawings and then the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Very cool project. I hope it gets finished some day. I agree with the other comments regarding the size of the front fenders, though. Great idea, but way too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Reminds me of those plastic boxer games from the 1960's. I had one called "Block Heads". Two opponents wearing outsized boxing gloves. Pull the trigger and punch until you hit the right spot and your opponent explodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 What a waste. It looks like a seaplane without wings. The pontoon fenders look more like balloons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The fully skirted front fenders is a snazzy look on a Delahaye where the fenders are blended into the body, but free standing like these are makes them look massive and clumsy. Also, they quite forward of the grille making them look all that much larger, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Cord already built a phaeton and it is pretty hard to beat. Don't fix what ain't broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, Brass is Best said: Cord already built a phaeton and it is pretty hard to beat. Don't fix what ain't broken. My first thought too....it's a timeless design, and "improving" it usually ends up in a downward spiral.......besides that, I think this design has already been done on a Cord hot rod, I remember seeing pictures.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Not to my liking ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Would agree that the front fenders are way too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Has anyone noticed just how big those front fenders appear? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer09 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 A CORD WITH "SPATS"............................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Matt, now that you pointed it out, those fenders are WAY too big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Now that it's been brought up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Looks like a 10,000 project for 19,000 and that's only because of the value of alot of the cord pieces. As said. It is really hard to redesign a Cord to look better or sleeker. They pretty much hit the nail on the head with that design. Kind of like a 40 Ford. It's hard to do much to them to improve on the design. Much easier to screw it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, trimacar said: My first thought too....it's a timeless design, and "improving" it usually ends up in a downward spiral.......besides that, I think this design has already been done on a Cord hot rod, I remember seeing pictures.... The car they started with might have been nothing more than a shell. A lot of sedans have been stripped bare to save phaetons and cabriolets. Here are a few other Cord hot rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The Skylark is one of 319. If it really is a 1939, as the listing says, then it is a Junior six, and is one of 30 (or possibly one of four hand-built prototypes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike36 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Restorer32 said: So he managed to ruin both a Cord and a Hupp before giving up. Good one 32, good one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike36 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Looks like a car out of a 1930's cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Oh, what the heck. Might as well stick my neck out and see if I can lower my approval rating. Artistic endeavors are often fraught with perils of misunderstanding. Still, I can't think of a better way to waste tens of thousands of dollars than to take a bunch of extremely rare and valuable historic auto pieces and butcher them until nobody likes the result. If I were ten years younger, and wealthy, I would have loved to take the truly rare Hupp and work to restore it to the work of art it was. But that is me. The fact is, any hotrodder with a bit of artistic tendency, could take any of a thousand common empty shells of '30s/'40s/'50s cars, and make something as extreme or cartoonish as that thing. , Without destroying a piece of history. Foot, firmly in mouth, and facetiously, me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I wondered earlier if the front fenders might not look so massive if there were wheels/tires under them to provide some perspective. Then the picture of the red modified Cord in post 23 came along and I can see that any tires would be dwarfed under the visual weight of those fenders. I think that the true beauty of the Cord lies in the gorgeous clean lines of the coffin-nose front end. These fenders distract greatly from that. In some ways the Cord might look best with the least in the way of fenders -- simple cycle fenders, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Cords are amazing design creations , sacrilege to alter , bit like tacking bits on to a Henry Moore sculpture, sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I suspect they were going after this look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Now, that is beautiful!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The bold and bulbous grille on this car makes the large bulbous fenders acceptable. I love Woodlights normally, but in the company of these large elements, I'm uncertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 That car pictured above is also very large. So the size of the fenders needed to fit the turning tire, are in scale/proportion to the rest of the car. The head lights look good, but need to be a touch bigger to be in scale, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Actually, this car is smaller than the Cord in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Different car than I was thinking of. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdang Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Plate glass grille? That's a new one on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 15 hours ago, zipdang said: Plate glass grille? That's a new one on me. This car shows a lot of forward thinking. However that straight axel with the transvers spring is old tech. I wonder if he is describing the GMC V6s that are bolted together. Also wonder where the exhaust exits. Looks like right at the rear tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 GMC V12: http://www.enginelabs.com/news/a-look-back-at-the-702ci-gmc-twin-six-v12-engine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 One piece block and one piece crank. So not bolted together, just looks that way. Obviously not the original exhaust manifolds. I remember back in the day when a cab over truck with one of those V6s came in with a knock. It seems that the in house mechanic did a tune up on it and when he started it up it had a knock. He had all of the take off parts laying on the floor of the truck and I noticed that one of the spark plugs had the electrode missing. Guess where I found it. The spark plugs drop in from the top and not that easy to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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