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10 minutes ago, prewarnut said:

...the caning on the Brewster is absolutely amazing! I'm having a hard time finding a line out of place - better than the few restorations I've seen which are usually top notch. holy cow!

 

I wonder if Matt ever sold his?  This is the Mark Smith car.

 

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1 hour ago, edinmass said:

Who in their right mind would buy any car without a title. Insane. 

In Indiana anyways, a receipt from an auction house is one of the things that will get a new title issued without hassle. The list of hassle free ways to come up with a title is getting smaller though. 

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Edinmass said "Who in their right mind would buy any car without a title. Insane." Count me as one of them guys. For example about 7 years ago I came across this 1929 Dodge which had been sitting in this same spot for over 40 years. The seller, a man approaching 100 years old, said he had bought it as a "parts car" without title 65 years earlier and I could have it for $500 with only a bill of sale. After getting it home, I filled out a DMV form related to untitled vehicles, a police officer came to check form against serial number on car, they did a check for stolen vehicles, and I had a new title to the car the next day. Spent a couple of hours getting motor to run, put on kijiji and sold it in a week with good title to a gent in Ontario for $3000. Call me crazy, but if you know the applicable rules for your jurisdiction it is often a very simple task. Mind you if I was forking out $100K, I might be more cautious. 

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On 3/19/2023 at 2:32 PM, alsancle said:

 

I wonder if Matt ever sold his?  This is the Mark Smith car.

 

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Yes, I sold mine just a few weeks ago. It's in PA now. It was newer than this, similar, but mine was a fully collapsible town cabriolet. I'll be curious to see how much the Smith car brings.

 

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In the majority of the states, you need a title. And while a few states are reasonable........most are asinine. And most of the cars at that auction will be 100k-800k............would you buy a house without a clear title? It's the same thing. The answer is NO!

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11 hours ago, Gunsmoke said:

Edinmass said "Who in their right mind would buy any car without a title. Insane." Count me as one of them guys. For example about 7 years ago I came across this 1929 Dodge which had been sitting in this same spot for over 40 years. The seller, a man approaching 100 years old, said he had bought it as a "parts car" without title 65 years earlier and I could have it for $500 with only a bill of sale. After getting it home, I filled out a DMV form related to untitled vehicles, a police officer came to check form against serial number on car, they did a check for stolen vehicles, and I had a new title to the car the next day. Spent a couple of hours getting motor to run, put on kijiji and sold it in a week with good title to a gent in Ontario for $3000. Call me crazy, but if you know the applicable rules for your jurisdiction it is often a very simple task. Mind you if I was forking out $100K, I might be more cautious. 

 

 

Gunsmoke...you forgot to add one bit of info for Ed as to why you would not have an issue buying a car without out a title or ownership as we we call them and that is because you must be Canadian by the Nova Scotia Licence plate on your truck and the use of Kijji to sell the Dodge. Your trying to compare apples to oranges with how our Country/Provinces are set up to deal with the issue of not having a title/ownership for a vehicle with how the States in the US do it. I have had to get 4 titles/ownerships done over the yrs and they have taken between 1hr and 1 week for a car in the teens that had a 5 digit serial number that matched a home built trailer out of Quebec... but that was still rectified in a week. After reading the horror stories from guys on this forum and even Ed himself I would not think of buying a car in the States with the proper paperwork.

 

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I was about to make a comment about Ed's comment but it might get taken wrong :) ...Ed is a friend but I have to disagree with him since blanket statements rarely apply to everything in life.  In Pennsylvania getting a title when there is none is difficult but not impossible.  Locally we have an AACA member who is an attorney and specializes in car related problems.  He has obtained titles for many of our members.  In other states it was easy for me to get a title for my early 1900's cars but maybe not so much today.  I just think it is a state by state problem and I am certainly not shocked at all that Mark's collection was short on titles.  He probably thought he would live forever and besides it was the fun of acquisition for him.  

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As an aside to the title discussion, here’s one pitfall of buying wothout a title.

 

I once bought a collection of ten cars.  There was an eleventh car I desparately wanted to go with the purchase, but owner wouldn’t sell.

 

I kept after him for ten years.  Finally, the real reason came out, he’d been “loaned” the car for display in his long defunct museum.  He’d had the car for twenty-five or more years, and family who owned never contacted him.  
 

We finally worked with a lawyer friend of his, and had the car declared as abandoned, all the appropriate letters to family etc., he sold it to me and apparently it had never been titled (very early car) so was no problem getting a title in my name.


As mentioned, how’d you like to buy an 800K car and find outit had been “loaned” to Mark.  Unlikely, but……

 

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When I was trying to register and title my 1930 LaSalle back in 2014, I had to take it to a certified NH inspection station for verification. The fellow at that shop looked at the number plate on the firewall (he didn’t believe that cars were registered by engine number back then). He wouldn’t  confirm the validity of the car because the number on the firewall was 1234. Really! It just happened to be that body’s number. I was then instructed to tow it across the state to Concord to have it verified by a State Trooper and be given a new “real” number to rivit to the firewall!!

 I drove the car to another shop 20 miles away in Keene and they talked about the chances of having that number while they filled out the paperwork and sent info to the title office.

 It seems that being at the right shop with the right person helps a lot!

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12 hours ago, Matt Harwood said:

Yes, I sold mine just a few weeks ago. It's in PA now. It was newer than this, similar, but mine was a fully collapsible town cabriolet. I'll be curious to see how much the Smith car brings.

 

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Prepare to be annoyed.

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7 minutes ago, alsancle said:

Prepare to be annoyed.

LOL. I'm always annoyed. The guys who over-pay at auctions never walk into my showroom. Or at least, they're never drunk and high on auction fever when they walk in.

 

On the flip side, a strong sale will be good news for the new owner, who I believe is on this forum. Hopefully there's a good result and the interest level in Brewsters goes up.

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56 minutes ago, TAKerry said:

Free booze flows quicker than its costly counterpart. More booze=more sales.  I think we have a new sales strategy for Matt! Have a couple of servers ala Vegas wandering about. Maybe even through in a plate of hot wings.

 

Just don't get the wings from B-dubs.🐥

 

https://www.today.com/food/news/buffalo-wild-wings-lawsuit-boneless-wings-rcna74738

 

To note, this individual has sued at least three other companies over "deceptive" labeling.

 

Another example of a plaintiff who should be slapped and a lawyer who should be disbarred- along with the ones who have sued Texas Pete and Barilla pasta.

 

IDK, maybe these people are trying to finance an old car purchase...😏

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Crappy hotel. No Crown Royal. So it’s Herradura tequila. More photos to follow.  
 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, edinmass said:


Crappy hotel. No Crown Royal. So it’s Herradura tequila. More photos to follow.

Ed. Remember where you are-the Land of Liberty! And I daresay the University owns the hotel you're in.

 

There's a Caesar's casino in the works here (60 miles south) and as would be expected all the LU affiliates are loudly proclaiming the Apocalypse is here. Until they figure out how to profit from it anyway.

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On 3/20/2023 at 5:21 PM, edinmass said:

Who in their right mind would buy any car without a title. Insane. 

I buy them every year without any paperwork. I do my own assessment after meeting the seller and decide in a few  minutes. In NY I can register a car with NO backup paperwork in 15 minutes  . After 6 weeks or so I get a transferable NY registration in the mail. No problems. I got papers for this car that had never been registered  for the road ever in 15 minutes. 

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Yep, Ed, as Glenn says, you need to take your own supplies down there. ;)

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3 hours ago, Hemi Joel said:

Well, did anyone buy anything?


Auction starts at 10am today.

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