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  1. Gunsmoke

    What does original mean?

    Poster asked what "Original"means. For the linguists, start with what the dictionary says. "Original" can be used as an adjective or noun. As an adjective, it has 2 variations: 1. existing from the beginning such as "John is the original owner of the car". 2. created directly by an artist or person, such as "That is an original Ford". As a Noun, again 2 variations 1. Something used as a model for making copies such as "the 1980 Shay Model A Ford Roadster is based on the Original. 2. an eccentric person, such as "in the old car hobby, my buddy is an Original ( after he was born, they threw away the mold). So when we use the word in the hobby, we should understand what the word itself means and use it accordingly. So if someone says this is an "Original 1929 Ford, it should follow the definition of an adjective set out above, i.e. a car as created directly by Henry Ford and Co. Of course, in most cases, the further adjective "mostly" or "largely" etc should be used, as virtually no "100% original" 1929 Fords exist. It is common to see a 1929 Ford for sale with a description "for sale by family of Original Owner". So my 2 cents (more like a dime!) is to get in the habit of trying to properly reflect what you are selling or using to describe your car. Everyone will realize when someone says their "1929 Ford is mostly original" that the car is pretty much stock, may have been painted or had engine rebuilt. All the words in the hobby are subject to wide interpretation. What does "rebuilt" "refurbished" "restored" "upgraded" "classic" "modernized" etc really mean. No answer will cover all, if any bases. Just try to be honest is all I suggest.
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    1908 REO touring original unrestored.

    I would never suggest anyone work for free, or even "at cost" who is in the business of moving/marketing old cars. My comment was aimed at another post where a poster was asking I recall $10k for a family relic provided it went to someone committed to restoring it. My premise is that the asking price for a rough barnfind is often the biggest deterrent to the car being saved. If someone "rescues" a car like that (say buys for $2,000, spends $1500 hauling it home and wants $4000-$5000 to recover costs+ a small return, I have no trouble with that.
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    1908 REO touring original unrestored.

    Much like many other rare but rough cars like these, how does one ever figure they are worth so much? As we all know, to restore/rebuild one will cost circa $50,000+ if done even for good driver quality, so an initial purchase price of $0 is often too much! Just my 2 cents worth from experience trying to rebuild rough cars.
  4. Regrettably, for these rare but very rough cars, if a keen restorer gets one for $0.00, they are still likely to lose money on trying a resale when restored. If you are serious about wanting to see the car saved and made mobile again, find a dedicated Buick/Marquette person and offer it for free (or for a token amount such as $1000) provided you get a right of first refusal to re-take possession if he/she should decide not to proceed with a rebuild within 5 years. Just my 2 cents worth.
  5. Gunsmoke

    What It Is?

    I won't ask how they get it in that precarious position. Strange Grease Pit!
  6. Gunsmoke

    Acura tl 2006 repair estimate

    I sold my 1990 Nissan 300ZX last summer, 160,000 miles on it, ran like a new engine, has never had a plug changed (it carries the individual coil over plugs), nor changes to fuel injection. In my experience, if an engine is running nicely, leave it alone except for checking regularly for leaks, changing oil/filters, and timing belt if it has one (some still have timing chains).
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    What is it? Another one from NZ.

    '31 was last year for an outside sun visor on Chevrolets. Many elements of body back from cowl similar to '31 Chevrolet 2dr Coach, but some things seem not jiving, hubcaps, rad shape? Here is my project. BTW, hood sides had louvers in '31, last year for them.
  8. The first illustration in this thread shows the radiator shutter device on top front of head for a CD8. It is part of the water outlet (normally a gooseneck) leading to the rad. This illustration below (taken from CD8 owner's manual) shows a cross section thru the device. There is a heavy spring in the upper part of the housing (and separated from water flow) which is connected to a vertical rod/pin, and as temperature rises, spring expands causing rod/pin to rise perhaps 1/8". This results in the L shaped lever pivoting and forcing a horizontal rod to move forward (perhaps 1/4") thru a hole in upper tank of radiator and opens the shutters (they are normally in closed position). Difficult device to find, not sure if mine works or not but everything looks good. Since it is only really needed in cold climates, some people I understand dis-able the system at slats end (unseen) and fix slats in a full open position. The manual required frequent lubrication of all of the shutter components, (including top and bottom slat pivot points) a nearly impossible job, so I suspect many of these systems failed after a few years as slats seized up. Hope this helps your friend.
  9. OK, I'm available to answer some ?'s on these engines if I can have the specifics. A lot has happened since my original post as you may imagine, will not be using the DG8 engine so my original questions have become moot. Not sure what a "shutter stat" is? If he is referring to the shutter thermostat on the CD8 let me know. I don't know if there was such a device on the DG8 or DC8.
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    What are these things?

    They are obvious;y a pair of adjustable clamps of some sort, perhaps part of a horse harness, not likely automotive. Appears some sort of part clipped onto the round nubs on end of each clamp.
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    Thanks fellow Canuck, better still it is a Canadian-built car, one of very few (possibly 3 or 4) CD8 Roadsters built in Windsor Ontario in May 1931 (a guess based on serial number sequence). As you may know the Chrysler Heritage Center has no build info for cars produced in Canada, but 381 CD8's of all styles were built here, mostly Sedans and Coupes. This is only Roadster known to exist. So rare on several fronts. Here it is in 1957 as my Dad knew it, driven by a friend of his, and with another friend of his who owned the equally rare 1940 Packard Phaeton. I spoke to one of them 2 yrs ago, he was 94 at the time and gave me these photos, confirming my Dad's story about the car. Note it still has same mis-matched bumper when I found it! Merry Christmas.
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    Fenders and Bumper

    I think fenders have been bobbed at both ends so tough call.
  13. Gunsmoke

    Holiday memories

    Looks like Santa's sleigh! LOL Pls post picture!
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    I don't think there is a serious old car nut out there who has not at some point in their life fantasized about finding a special old car in a hidden spot, be it a barn, basement, the woods, behind a shed, the end of the rainbow or any other unexpected place. Let's just use the term Barn. I have fantasized such a find most of my life, specifically finding an old roadster left for dead. When I talked to my dad about old cars in the 80's and 90's, he always reminded me of the "Big Black modified '31 Chrysler Roadster " a friend of his had in the early 50's. Dad died in 1999, so I forgot about that car, but occasionally thought about finding it some day. In 2013, having had no luck finding my fantasy car, I built this half model roadster from a block of scrap hardwood, pretty primitive, but symbolic of what I imagined finding, and to reinforce the idea, used some 200 year old barnboard to "house it". A year later in the fall of 2014, while out scouting as usual, I found the car my dad had mentioned 40 years earlier in an outbuilding, where it had sat forlornly for about 45 years. Yes I was excited, almost shocked, and now I don't fantasize at all. I'm just hoping I can finish it and take it for a ride before it becomes a barnfind for someone else!
  15. There was a very well restored 1926 Chrysler Sedan for sale as part of an estate settlement locally 2 years ago, executor was asking US$7500. My offer of US$4200 was declined. It was eventually purchased for US$6500, and buyer tried to flip it a few months later and after 6 months wound up selling for $US6000. So that's likely about the ballpark.