edinmass Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 A bunch of us will be attending the sale of the remaining big cars in Lynchburg on April 7th. If any locals or others here want to have dinner on Thursday night let me know. The "Young Guns" crowd will be on hand. Bring your checkbook.......or should I say, your credit line. "This thing is gonna be huge!" 😀 https://www.goodingco.com/auction/estate-of-mark-smith-auction 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Wish the cars were on the Gooding website. This is the bulk of the good unrestored stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarNucopia Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) @1937hd45 Try this link https://www.goodingco.com/lots/?filtersInput[auctionType][0]=Live Auction&filtersInput[auctionYear][0]=2023&filtersInput[liveAuctionVenue][0]=Lynchburg&filtersInput[liveAuctionVenue][1]=Virginia&sortBy=ENDING_SOONEST looks like there are only 10 cars. Edited February 20, 2023 by CarNucopia (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Strongly suggest making lodging reservations ASAP. If Liberty University has anything going on during that time everything in Lynchburg will be booked solid, and the Liberty crowd often gets priority. LU has some type of firewall on their website where I wasn't able to look at their April event calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Catalog on the 28 I heard. Sure like the imperial. Edited February 21, 2023 by old car fan (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 The Imperial is cool, but since it hasn't been sold out the back door yet, I suspect the big guns are uninterested in it. Not enough good answers in regard to the question of its authenticity, I suspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 All I need to do is win a huge lottery in the next few weeks! The model K Ford is the one I would want the most. A few of the others would be okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, CarNucopia said: @1937hd45 Try this link https://www.goodingco.com/lots/?filtersInput[auctionType][0]=Live Auction&filtersInput[auctionYear][0]=2023&filtersInput[liveAuctionVenue][0]=Lynchburg&filtersInput[liveAuctionVenue][1]=Virginia&sortBy=ENDING_SOONEST looks like there are only 10 cars. Thank you! There are only two that I want and only 24 Lottery drawings until April. I've been looking at this Henry Austin Clark photo since 1961, one that I'd really like. Wonder if it is the Touring car Elmer Bimus owned in Brattleboro, Vt.? Edited February 21, 2023 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) While I didn't consider myself a "Lincoln" guy, The 1930 Lincoln Model L Sport Roadster and the 1932 Chrysler CG Imperial Custom Roadster might fit my garage, but likely not my wallet Edited February 21, 2023 by Marty Roth (see edit history) 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Like the Lincoln, but only bidding on the Model K Ford and Mercury, if the Lottery pays enough? Will there be more cars added? Edited February 21, 2023 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Somehow 1975 seams like a long time ago, the Mercury restoration was fresh and it lived in Reno. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, West Peterson said: The Imperial is cool, but since it hasn't been sold out the back door yet, I suspect the big guns are uninterested in it. Not enough good answers in regard to the question of its authenticity, I suspect. I believe the auction catalog will spell out its history accurately. Mark liked to say it was a New York auto show car which I believe it was not. However, it was done in.period, And I expect a decent premium over a factory example. Edited February 21, 2023 by alsancle (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Also, as a no reserve auction of a well respected collector, I expect astronomical results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Marty Roth said: While I didn't consider myself a "Lincoln" guy, The 1930 Lincoln Model L Sport Roadster and the 1932 Lincoln CG Imperial Custom Roadster might fit my garage, but likely not my wallet This would be closer to apples to apples. Although still not 100% since I used a stock 31 Chrysler Imperial and a stock 32 Lincoln KB. Chrysler had some great styling in the early 30s. Lincoln was always more conservative. The 32 Chrysler Imperial is fantastic and also brings stupid money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1gt Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I just can not make up my mind on which one to buy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, alsancle said: Mark liked to say it was a New York auto show car which I believe it was not. I totally agree about the NY show car status; a bit of myth creeping into the story. But a fantastic looking car , I saw it in person several times when MS had it at Steve Babinsky's shop in NJ. and got the chance to look it over fairly well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I'm not sure about the back door comment but quite a few cars were left to collectors that Mark felt were the right caretakers. Another major part of the collection will remain intact and be in a museum setting to honor Mark. Not sure how much I am supposed to say about this so I leave out the details. I would also suspect there are more cars in this auction than is currently on the website. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 Yes....a fair amount of cars to be listed still......... The museum getting the cars is well known, but I shall not spill the beans.........but I think it's an open secret. It will be an interesting sale......we will post photos. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Did the White steamer live in Connecticut for a fair amount of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32tatra Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Quote 3 hours ago, edinmass said: The museum getting the cars is well known, but I shall not spill the beans.........but I think it's an open secret. 3 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said: Not sure how much I am supposed to say about this so I leave out the details Now I know why all these spy balloons, are being sent out!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: Did the White steamer live in Connecticut for a fair amount of time? One of them did........Louis B's car. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, edinmass said: One of them did........Louis B's car. So if this is the former Miller car I saw it running at Southbury about 50 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I would get a letter from my bank and attend, but it would just say "do not let this guy buy any cars!". 😉🤣👍 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I will take the Chrysler. You won't see the convertible top very often. Ed, grab that one for me and I will catch you on the flip side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtflame Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Ed, another White to add to your collection!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) I intend to buy several cars there. I wonder if they will let me take them home before the check clears. 🤔 Its the only way I will get one home! I think the concept of “strong pricing results “ will be redefined at this sale. Edited February 22, 2023 by edinmass (see edit history) 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said: I'm not sure about the back door comment but quite a few cars were left to collectors that Mark felt were the right caretakers. Another major part of the collection will remain intact and be in a museum setting to honor Mark. Not sure how much I am supposed to say about this so I leave out the details. I would also suspect there are more cars in this auction than is currently on the website. No need saying anything more... I'd imagine they will supply sufficient details closer to the time of auction as it says on their website. I doubt they'll let these go off without providing more information to the buyers... "Additional images and complete lot descriptions will be available closer to the Auction. Please check back for more information." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Every car collector should be so lucky to grow up to be Mark Smith. The guy had a great eye for cars. He also played the long game. Everything was for sale at his number and sometimes that might take a decade or two for the buyer to come around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, alsancle said: Every car collector should be so lucky to grow up to be Mark Smith. The guy had a great eye for cars. He also played the long game. Everything was for sale at his number and sometimes that might take a decade or two for the buyer to come around. Great stuff NEVER goes out of style. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Reviewing the catalog - this is a sleeper - in my opinion. Too bad there are no interior images - but the description notes a largely original interior: @ https://www.goodingco.com/lot/1937-pierce-arrow-model-c-travelodge/?filtersInput[auctionType][0]=Live Auction&filtersInput[auctionYear][0]=2023&filtersInput[liveAuctionVenue][0]=Virginia&sortBy=ENDING_SOONEST&pageNumber=5 Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 A Heads Up …. @ https://www.goodingco.com/lot/1924-ford-model-t-speedster/?filtersInput[auctionType][0]=Live Auction&filtersInput[auctionYear][0]=2023&filtersInput[liveAuctionVenue][0]=Virginia&sortBy=ENDING_SOONEST&pageNumber=2 Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 The Mercury Speedster is my Second favorite car in the auction, the Model K Ford is in First place. So far the Lottery is not funding my biding. Bob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 The full catalog is up: https://www.goodingco.com/lots A few comments: 1. Gooding is a top notch operation so I'm a little surprised by some of the descriptions. 2. It will be interesting to see if the following verbiage attached to every lot suppresses prices or not. No problem for dealers, but a big deal for most retail collectors The Estate has compiled available title and/or registration paperwork for the Vehicles offered in the Auction and will provide such paperwork to the Buyer if it is available. However, as set forth more fully in the Conditions of Sale, neither the Estate nor Gooding makes any representation or warranty with respect to any existing certificate of title or registration with regard to any Lot in the Auction. Any Lot may be sold on a Bill of Sale. By participating in this Auction, all bidders and buyers recognize that Estate and Gooding have expressly disclaimed all such warranties concerning the availability or sufficiency of any title or registration documentation. I'm assuming what this means is that some cars have titles in Mark's name, some cars have open titles and some cars have nada and it is up to you as a bidder to go find out before you spend any money. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Quite an eclectic collection. Quite a few I would not mind having in my garage. You would think though that they could disclose up front whether or not they have a title. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 From past recollection I believe it is illegal to sell a vehicle in Virginia that has no title. Obviously, the problem can be worked around, but may be a hassle. (Don't ask me how I know.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dave Henderson said: From past recollection I believe it is illegal to sell a vehicle in Virginia that has no title. Obviously, the problem can be worked around, but may be a hassle. (Don't ask me how I know.) I would think so if its not disclosed, but can one get away with it as advertised? I have been to multiple auctions in different states, and typically when no title is available they will say bill of sale only. I dont know why the secrecy with this one? They have to know by now which cars have titles and which ones dont! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 What about cars that PREDATE TITLES? If the car NEVER HAD a title, and last ran in 1920 what is the deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 You'd hope Gooding has squared all this away with VA DMV, and maybe arranged to have a knowledgeable DMV rep on site along with a Notary Public- which the auction company should have on staff. Virginia doesn't require titles to be notarized but other states do. I would think a bill of sale would require notarization. That's putting a lot on a NP without ironclad proof of ownership history! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, rocketraider said: That's putting a lot on a NP without ironclad proof of ownership history! A Notary Public can only authenticate a signature, not what's in the signed document. Awaiting correction from a legal person, but that's what I have been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prewarnut Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 ...the caning on the Brewster is absolutely amazing! I'm having a hard time finding a line out of place - better than the few restorations I've seen which are usually top notch. holy cow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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