alsfarms Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Does anyone have an update or status on the sell-off of the huge collection of old automobiles located in upstate NY, if I remember correctly. My thinking is this collection could assist many restorations if access, purchase and transportation could all be worked out in an affordable, palatable fashion to both the seller and buyer. Sadly, my thoughts probably are not a reality at all. Share your updates, if you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 test test test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 What a coincidence! I had that dream last night too! Gotta love that single malt Scotch! terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) Perhaps if a little more information where - about the location- 'upstate NY' could be anyplace from Albany to Buffalo ( kinda like saying that a car is located in the New England states) 😇 Perhaps it was the one ( I am venturing a wild guess here) located near Utica,NY perhaps a bit south. Fellow there was buying cars for many years and not to cooperative to try to help others out , a bit self centered. I do not recall the name as I just wrote the possibility of anything happening at some reasonable rate of $ /sale would be a lot of wishes, hopes, effort for naught. Edited January 1, 2022 by Walt G (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Walt, being from the mountain west, I am not the best with New York geography..... that said, you have spoke directly of the collection I made my inquiry about. It seems that the initial sale date was sometime in November, right in front of the New York winter. That item alone makes travel and loaded transportation a problem. Does anyone know how many autos were sold during this first event? Will additional sales events/efforts be made during a better season? I am curious.... Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Was this it? https://www.collarcityauctionsonline.com/servlet/List.do?auctionId=727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 https://www.collarcityauctionsonline.com/servlet/List.do?auctionId=727 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) Thanks for posting the auction listing for the huge unrestored automobile collection, the subject of my inquiry. I could be very wrong, but I suspect that this auction sales event was likely not very productive either to the seller or the potential buyer? That defines a Lose-Lose situation, not a Win-Win scenario. Al Edited January 1, 2022 by alsfarms spelling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Smolinski Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I remeber seeing it posted on here. It's really not a collector's auction. I'd call it a hoarder's auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 After viewing the first page and seeing the prices paid it looks more to me like an old salvage yard was sold off rather than any kind of collection.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 hmmmm....I just scrolled through the results of the auction. It appears that everything that was shown on the auction flyer was sold. Prices were what I would have expected in most cases. I hope in some degree, some can be saved and the rest used as parts donors to save another from the junk pile. I bet the building looks a bit different now. I wonder what is behind door #2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I enjoyed scrolling thru the 200+lots, prices from $100-$15,000, some guys are going to have fun once they get these home. Hard to believe one person could have gathered up so many 1938-1956 Packards. Thanks for posting results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Seems like most of them say "No Transferrable Paperwork." Parts cars it is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31plymouth Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) Many with " no transferable paperwork". Many posts on this forum about nightmare of trying to register a car without proper paperwork. Thinking most will be used as parts cars. Joe just beat me on the same thoughts as I was posting Edited January 1, 2022 by 31plymouth added sentance (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 As I figured. This one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Delving through the more difficult, some of these would be worthy of the effort, but paperwork will surely be a difficult situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesR Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Quote Many with " no transferable paperwork". I particularly like, "no title, no keys" type ads. Though it wouldn't be the case in an auction like this, that could just be some random guy taking random pics of old cars he comes across. 😄 I especially like it when the ad is on eBay and the "seller" has no sale or even purchase history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 NYS did not have titles until 1973, vehicles had a registration card with a transfer stub that was signed on the back to the new owner. looking like most of these cars were taken in as junk, those cards were long lost or destroyed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 55er Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 It looked to me like some of those derelicts were taken (saved?) from salvage yards years ago and stored away inside the building. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I believe the next step in this "liquidation" is the disposal of the huge parts "collection". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, John348 said: NYS did not have titles until 1973, vehicles had a registration card with a transfer stub that was signed on the back to the new owner. looking like most of these cars were taken in as junk, those cards were long lost or destroyed Thank you for taking the time to explain this! We will never run out of people crying about tiles and paperwork, someone should add some violin music to add to their sorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Parts Liquidation was what I was referring to....behind door #2. I wonder if that "Liquidation" will be a bit more cautious than what we saw at the Model T Haven in the mid-west just a couple of months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) See Posts #86 & #89 in this thread on PackardInfo for a little bit more info about the parts. Edited January 1, 2022 by Ozstatman (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Interesting and likely heavy on Packard parts...... to make some Packard owners happy. I guess we will need to watch and see what happens next. This is quite an interesting mystery..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 No paperwork may not be insurmountable. I haven't done this for a number of years, but in my experience, the New York DMV has been easy to work with and much more user-friendly than other states. If you appear in person, bring documentation, be clean, and act politely, you may end up with the ownership papers you need for registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I met a fellow a few years ago looking for parts. He told me (keep in mind this was the first time I met the guy) a story of a fellow he knew that retired from the NY dmv that took a box full of blank titles when he left. He said he could get any car titled with no problem. His side of the story was the NY guy would make a new title on the 'official paper' he had, then it was sent to another guy in another state to transfer the title. All of the this sounded very illegal to me and I just nodded and grinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, TAKerry said: I met a fellow a few years ago looking for parts. He told me (keep in mind this was the first time I met the guy) a story of a fellow he knew that retired from the NY dmv that took a box full of blank titles when he left. He said he could get any car titled with no problem. His side of the story was the NY guy would make a new title on the 'official paper' he had, then it was sent to another guy in another state to transfer the title. All of the this sounded very illegal to me and I just nodded and grinned. There's no end to shady deals. In my case, every transaction was in-person at the DMV office and legit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Harold said: No paperwork may not be insurmountable. I haven't done this for a number of years, but in my experience, the New York DMV has been easy to work with and much more user-friendly than other states. If you appear in person, bring documentation, be clean, and act politely, you may end up with the ownership papers you need for registration. I have heard this rumor before, but I never found that user friendly helpful experience at a NYS DMV office myself. I don't think that experience exists in the lower 9 counties. Either way it is royal pain in the butt to try to get the paper work on a car that has been out of the system that long in NYS Edited January 1, 2022 by John348 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURTRUK Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 One more thing that would sink this auction effort was the REMOVAL rules. In order of LOT NUMBER. Approx. 10 cars per day. Sorry folks. Them's the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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