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Off topic, but car related....wreck on the last lap of the Daytona 500 sent Ryan Newman to the hospital. We will hope for the best outcome.

 

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Yes, I was tuned into the event when that happened.  Sincerely hope the man survives what certainly looked to be an extremely nasty crash.

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From Nascar - Serious but not life threatening - some good news

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I'm glad Ryan is going to be OK. That was a really exciting finish but I really hated to see a Junkota win again....

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That was an awful wreck.  If they continue to race at Daytona and Talladega, this will happen, but they should reconsider their unlimited "green-white-checkered" policy.  They just keep wrecking and lining it up to do it all over again.  If the race finished under caution like it used to, even to the detriment of the "show," there would probably be a lot fewer wrecked race cars, and in this case, one less injured driver.

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10 hours ago, 3macboys said:

From Nascar - Serious but not life threatening - some good news

 

That IS good news that Newman survived; however, "not life threatening" does not necessarily mean "not life changing".  I think we're all praying for a FULL recovery for Ryan Newman.

 

Regards,

Grog

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I'm sorry about the driver, but I stopped caring about NASCAR when stock cars stopped being "stock". What was the last Toyota (or Ford for that matter) that you could buy with a pushrod V8? When was the last time you could buy a "two door" Camry?

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Modern NASCAR racing seems to consist of several hours of two lane chains of cars going at almost exactly the same speed (+/- 3 mph). Had to use my backup DVR since was not on the cable schedule but got it. Finish was something out of Stroker Ace (the book not the turkey). From 1st to 4th while airborne. That said modern safety equipment is awesome.

 

Frankly I liked it better when some were faster on the straight and others were faster on the banking & not who is best at drafting. Could look at the banking from the infield and see who had their tail out. Not recent though, "Days of Thunder" thutty yar ago had the same issue.

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It's not 'stock car" racing anymore, it's nascar.         (< small letters to denigrate.)

BIG difference !!!!!!!!!!

Our prayers go out to Ryan !!!

 

Mike in Colorado

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3 hours ago, joe_padavano said:

I'm sorry about the driver, but I stopped caring about NASCAR when stock cars stopped being "stock". What was the last Toyota (or Ford for that matter) that you could buy with a pushrod V8? When was the last time you could buy a "two door" Camry?

 

Don't be sorry, Many of us feel the same way too. There is just one thing though. In order to be honest, NASCAR needs to change it's name.

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NASCAR will continue allowing the "bump drafting" until one of their big names gets killed. Ryan Newman had the race won until that "bump". They seem to want to get back to the days of Dale Earnhardt Sr.'s philosophy of "if you are in front of me, move over, or I'll put you into the wall". Earnhardt was the golden boy and put people in the seats, so NASCAR did nothing. Ask anyone that raced against him and they will tell you, that they might be friends off the track, but on the track he would wreck his mother. Go to a race and listed to the people cheer when there is "the big one", as they call it.

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4 minutes ago, 46 woodie said:

NASCAR will continue allowing the "bump drafting" until one of their big names gets killed. Ryan Newman had the race won until that "bump". They seem to want to get back to the days of Dale Earnhardt Sr.'s philosophy of "if you are in front of me, move over, or I'll put you into the wall". Earnhardt was the golden boy and put people in the seats, so NASCAR did nothing. Ask anyone that raced against him and they will tell you, that they might be friends off the track, but on the track he would wreck his mother. Go to a race and listed to the people cheer when there is "the big one", as they call it.

That sounds like Lee Petty who did that a few times to Richard. But alas that was STOCK CAR RACING.

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Prayers going out to Ryan for a full recovery...……………………………  Winner drives like the local delivery driver, time to use UPS. Bob 

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39 minutes ago, 46 woodie said:

NASCAR will continue allowing the "bump drafting" until one of their big names gets killed. Ryan Newman had the race won until that "bump". They seem to want to get back to the days of Dale Earnhardt Sr.'s philosophy of "if you are in front of me, move over, or I'll put you into the wall". Earnhardt was the golden boy and put people in the seats, so NASCAR did nothing. Ask anyone that raced against him and they will tell you, that they might be friends off the track, but on the track he would wreck his mother. Go to a race and listed to the people cheer when there is "the big one", as they call it.

They didn't call Dale Earnheart Sr. "The Intimidator" for nuthin'.

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You could tell the guy who won didnt much feel like partying at the finish line after just killing a guy to do it as far as he knew at the time.

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5 minutes ago, billorn said:

You could tell the guy who won didnt much feel like partying at the finish line after just killing a guy to do it as far as he knew at the time.

Yes, a wreck like that puts a damper on any win, I'm sure.

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The 11 (winner) didn't turn the 6, the 12 did.

Minor detail as both (I should say all) drivers were very humble at the finish.

This is something that all racers know can happen and it is sometimes even talked about. With the safety built into these cars these days Ryan was not killed.

Twenty or less years ago he would have been. Seeing that all of the major damage was drivers side and lack of immediate information on the broadcast I was happy wake up to hear  not life threatening.

Probably life changing for sure.

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So much for "If your in front, nobody can hurt you !"

 

 

 

Mike in Colorado

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4 hours ago, JACK M said:

The 11 (winner) didn't turn the 6, the 12 did.

Minor detail as both (I should say all) drivers were very humble at the finish.

This is something that all racers know can happen and it is sometimes even talked about. With the safety built into these cars these days Ryan was not killed.

Twenty or less years ago he would have been. Seeing that all of the major damage was drivers side and lack of immediate information on the broadcast I was happy wake up to hear  not life threatening.

Probably life changing for sure.

 

The runt in the 11 bumped the 12 to allow it to hit Newman's #6. 

 

Bob 

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9 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

 

The runt in the 11 bumper the 12 to allow it to hit Newman's #6. 

 

Bob 

Yep.

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+1 on that  I know "rubbing is racing" but in these cars the stability is so fragile that any recovery is more luck than skill. And it is no longer "the big one" but more the big 10 or 20. Reminded me of all the tires flying at Indy '66 just now it is whole cars.    

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It would be easy to have the drivers shop the bumping. Change the rules to have a car requirement where the front bumper is soft. Any bump that would happen would damage the front of the car and ruin the aerodynamics of the car thus making the car uncompetitive for the rest of the race. 
 

John

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Just have a requirement that the air intake for the radiator is at least a foot off the ground.

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