Onoudidnt14 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Difficult to find much information on our vehicle if I’m correct with the year. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My wife and I inherited the vehicle and it is original as far as I can tell so far. I would like to see if it starts but I don’t want to touch anything without the proper instructions. Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Photos would be helpful. There should be plenty of help available here. It should be difficult to confirm the year if you provide pics of the data plate and a good description. The question of originality should also generate a lot of discussion. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Welcome to the forum. I am guessing it looks something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoudidnt14 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Yes! But four door 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoudidnt14 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Yes! But four door 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Graham Man Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Great looking car. Any ideas on plans? There is a grocery list of stuff you can do to get it back on the road. The top looks (good/no holes) so the interior wood might be good, a large consideration with a 1933 car. I would move it inside, either way, till you decide what to do with it. The fact the tires are up is a good indicator someone worked on it in the last 20 years. Nice looking original car, they keep getting more rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoudidnt14 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 We put it in inside right after we took a few pics. Eventually we would like to drive it. Not looking for a true restoration. We would like to change to original brown with blue pinstripes. The car has been untouched sitting in a barn since 1958. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Graham Man Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Here is your problem..... investment wise 1933 For Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I LOVE the 33/34 Pontiac. I see more Model J Duesenbergs than any body style of that year Pontiac. Assuming the car is free, spend as little as possible to make it presentable and runnable. if you try to paint it, upholster it, etc, you will be underwater fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I do not know your mechanical skills but this is a pretty easy car to work on, if you enjoy that. If you are looking to have some one sort out the car, that is a good plan also. I would check with the local car shops and see if anyone works on the old cars near you. Make a list, brakes, fuel system, engine, ect. put together estimates for work, add it up and decide what you want to do. Unless there is a major engine problem, (I would start getting the engine running first, and see if you have any oil pressure) it should be a relatively ($2K-3K) project to get it road worthy. Tires are getting crazy $200 each approximately, hold off as long as you can, I would have the wheels powder coated before tires, so you know the wheels are good. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Great car. Do what you want with it but keep it correct. If there is a lot of sentiment attached to it and you can afford to, by all means get it repainted in the original color combination. The interior may be usable with just careful cleaning and some minor repairs to keep things from getting any worse. Mechanically, it may be sound but would need all systems checked and brought back to life carefully. Yes, it is in a sense an "original car" but it certainly didn't come like it is now when it was new, so I'd prefer to call it just unrestored. Unless you like that thing called "patina" don't be afraid to do some restoration and make it look good. Best thing to do is join AACA and your local Region/Chapter so you can enjoy the car and all the things that come with the hobby. When you are working on a car, the best place to get advice is in a local club. Talking to fellow old car enthusiasts is much better than just checking the yellow pages for someone to help with the work. Terry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoudidnt14 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 We plan on doing what we can a little at a time. There are and will never be in our lifetime a chance of us selling it. We are looking forward to someday being out on the road. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 If you are going to join a club I would join the POCI Early Times Chapter and AACA's Chapter called Oakland Pontiac Worldwide region. The nice thing about the Early Times Chapter is you can be a member of the chapter only and not belong to the POCI club. All Pontiac's in 1933-34 are straight eight's. 1933 is the first year of the design and 1954 is the last year. This is Ben Anibal's Pontiac engineering department and G.M. research laboratories design. From the get go the engine has full flow oiling and more importantly has main and rod and cam bearing inserts and NO more poured bearings which makes rebuilding easier. The engine starts out at 223.4 cubic inches and by 1950-1954 ends up at 268 cubic inches, also the Pontiac flathead straight six ( 1935-1954) is derived from the eight and shares many parts. These engines are very reliable and noted for their smoothness and they easily pass the Quarter test in which many other engines fail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 A nice rig, Onoudidnt14. The U.S. car industry was about kaput in 1933, so the remaining carmakers were offering a lot for the money, and this straight-eight Pontiac is a case in point. The difference between your Pontiac and the Model T from six years earlier is like comparing a a 2014 Explorer and a 1964 Galaxie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoudidnt14 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 I have only come across the body plate so far and am unable to find another serial plate or such. This is all new to us and has been a dream of both of ours. I have been doing as much research as I can but can only read so much. All the help and or advice from everyone is wonderful and greatly appreciated. All I have done so far is clean it up on the inside. The tire jack and oil can is still under the front seat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARY F Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Great car. Do what you have to to make it run and safe. There is a section down more for pre war Pontiacs also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Take Pfeil's advice and join Early Times Chapter. (I haven't joined Oakland Pontiac Worldwide yet, but I intend to). Unfortunately most of Early Times' site is down right now because they are updating it. There is normally a bunch of useful documentation there. I'm sure it will come back. Early times holds a national "flathead reunion" every year. I believe it will be in Kentucky in 2019. Last year was Ames, Iowa. Here is a 1934 Eight at the 2018 reunion. It is all original and on it's second owner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Try this: https://web.archive.org/web/20170630191159/http://www.earlytimeschapter.org/1933.html https://web.archive.org/web/20170317151316/http://www.earlytimeschapter.org/vehicles1926-1954stylecodes.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20170717165000/http://www.earlytimeschapter.org/etclibrary.html https://web.archive.org/web/20170630190410/http://www.earlytimeschapter.org/index.html Welcome to the forum! Here's my 1936 Master Six on a tour last year: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Many states used the motor number on titles and such for a serial number. If you have a title to the car see if the motor number was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I am guessing the serial number is going to be an aluminum tag riveted to the frame. On my 1936 it is on top of the frame right by the steering box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Most Fisher body car would have an aluminum plate nailed to the passenger side main by the front of the front seat. If you have a mat lift it up and look along the sill in the whole door opening. Sometimes they were on the sill on the side of the front seat close to the bottom of the latch pillar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggbelsky Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Did you end up keeping and rebuilding the vehicle? I am looking for some Pontiac parts (two front fender marker lights, a hood and one horn), let me know, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I have revived a number of old cars and gotten them running after they had been sitting up to 30 years. If it was my car I would start by carefully cleaning and inspecting. Then go on to put some oil down the cylinders and see if it will turn over by hand. If it will turn over, remove the oil pan and clean out the sludge. Pontiacs had an oil filter built into the oil pickup that needs to be cleaned out. Would also check for sticking valves. If the car was stored inside, with the spark plugs in and air filter on, chances are it is not seized up. Once it has fresh clean oil and is turning over it is time to check the distributor, clean the points, inspect wiring, and clean and adjust the carburetor. I would not change or replace anything unless it was necessary at this stage to get it running. If I could get the engine to start and run, would then go on to change oil in transmission, differential, grease the chassis, repack wheel bearings, rebuild brakes etc. Is there an AACA club in your area or some other old car group? It would be a big help if you had someone local who could help you and who is familiar with the old models. Cars have changed so much, a good mechanic today would be lost with a car like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic_cruiser Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 The original poster hasn’t been on this site since February 5, 2019… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Who keeps digging up these old posts? Guess I will have to get used to checking dates before answering. Or maybe not bother answering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Keep on keeping on, Rusty. Old post need read,too. Ben 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G. Smits Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Keep on keeping on, Rusty. Old post need read,too. I agree with First Born. I hadn't noticed the 2019 date but enjoyed the thread as I have two 34's 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 34 Pontiac is the nads and 33 isn't too shabby either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G. Smits Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Here is a photo of the 34 on the 34th Glidden tour. This was purchased from Don Sears, cofounder is Mannheim Steamrollers (If you remember them you are old) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Why are we responding to a thread that was dormant for 4 years, when the original poster hasn't even been back for 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: Why are we responding to a thread that was dormant for 4 years, when the original poster hasn't even been back for 4 years? Curiosity?? Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhach Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Prepping for Winter boredom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 LOL I don't mind at all. Its always a bit odd though to be thinking of typing a response only to discover I am already in the thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Bar None,the Pontiac hood ornaments from the beginning in 1926 to well into the fifties as a group are the neatest,classiest bunch in the hobby in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G. Smits Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 The bottom two have been on the car since 1934. The top one is rare and I have never seen one on a car, only in collections 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zepher Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 10:02 AM, Robert G. Smits said: The bottom two have been on the car since 1934. The top one is rare and I have never seen one on a car, only in collections That Indian looks like he got the pox from one of those infected blankets. And, before anyone gets offended or upset - I am an Indian with a roll number through the BIA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I hope the original poster got it running well, washed the windows and is enjoying be the hit of every antique car function he takes it to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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