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YOM plate confusion leads to arrest for driving classic car

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He was told to pull up his shirt and could have been shot. He reached for his belt area to grab  the shirt bottom but they wanted him to pull his shirt up and off by the collar.

 

Wife reached into the car to grab her crutches and they thought she might be reaching for a sawed-off shotgun.

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Me and my "outlaw" Franklin.

 

I used to live in San Diego, California before moving to Texas (thank goodness). I owned (and still do) a 1921 Franklin touring car with a top speed of about 38 mph.  

 

We loved to take the car into eastern San Diego county and drive in the foothills and mountains. Of course, we would always pull over to the right to let cars pass. One time, about 13 years ago, we were on just such a jaunt east of Alpine when a sheriff's car pulled behind us with red lights flashing. We were driving on a two-lane highway. The Sheriff accused me of illegally passing cars on the right while going up the previous grade. In response, my wife and I couldn't help it -- we just burst out laughing. I told him it was not physically possible for my car to go over 45mph, much less pass cars going up a hill.

 

The sheriff kept us by the side of the road for about 30 minutes, conferring on the radio. Someone must have talked some sense into him, because he let us go with a warning -- not for passing cars on the right, but for moving over onto the shoulder of the road to let other cars pass. I told him I always moved over to the right to let other cars pass me; he stated that driving on the shoulder was not allowed.

 

Anyways, he left and we continued on our way. To this day, I almost wish the sheriff had written me up for passing cars on the right doing 60 mph uphill in my 1921 Franklin. I would frame that citation.

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Someone told me once that the State Police wont hire a person with a high IQ as they may get bored with the job.

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I'm certain being a GOOD police officer has to be one of the toughest jobs in the world and that routinely dealing with the scum of the Earth tends to make one jaded but these officers just plain exhibited really poor judgment...............Bob

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1 hour ago, JACK M said:

Someone told me once that the State Police wont hire a person with a high IQ as they may get bored with the job.

There was a quiet study done once comparing the police hiring practices of Newark, NJ and Boulder, CO (maybe Colorado Springs). Newark was said to deliberately avoid hiring the highest IQs, using mid-IQs as their goal, while the CO town hired the highest IQs. The results were that the CO police force suffered endless turn overs,  but the Newark police force remained fairly stable. Boredom was simply too much for the smarter cops. On the other hand, I bet that being a cop in Newark is probably less boring for any cop, regardless of IQ.

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Happend to a friend with a "32 Ford with YOM plates. He was driving thru a mid western state and was pulled over. Cop pulled him and his wife over and when he walked up to the car window he started lecturing my friend about "you think you can just put any old plate on a car and you won't get caught"? My friend tried to explain that in NY if a plate matches YOM you can register a car with it. The cop said "never heard such a law". After about 30 minutes the cop walked back to my friends car, handed him back the registration and said "you are free to go", not "Im sorry for stopping you I was mistaken". Oh well!

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I keep a copy of the NC statute regarding YOM plates in each of my cars along with the registration.

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If you watch that video start to finish you have to wonder how much dope and how many illegals drove past the three squad cars and couple with jobs. Bob

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I have infinite respect for good police officers who do their jobs properly. But a lot of them are such idiots, and quite a few are so drunk on their power over regular citizens that psychiatric help is is order. I am totally not surprised at this incident. Sad, angry, shocked - but not surprised. And god forbid you try to protest while one of these idiots is ruining your day for no good reason other than their own incompetence. "If you complain, they're gonna get vicious / Kick in your teeth and charge you with assault" (MC5). 

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Florida allows YOM plates. Have a few but never wanted to pay the $25/year extra. They do put the current registration sticker on them & what Florida LEO looks for. Have sometime felt sorry for neighboring states, Florida has over 100 different plates for special activities.

 

See here.

 

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Iowa allows YOM plates and you just keep your modem plates under the seat. You can bolt on any YOM plates you want, I keep copies of the vehicle code in the vehicles, I think I'm getting close to meeting and educating just about every cop in the area.

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This is a case where it appears a civil lawsuit is justified & necessary.

 

The initial stop & investigative detention might be warranted,

but the unlawful detention & subsequent arrest were unreasonable.

 

 

Jim

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I remember when this happened last year. Disgusting.

Many years ago, I was ORDERED by a Califunny Highway patrolman to drive on the shoulder and stay out of the traffic lane with my model T.  Now, years ago, gasoline was a lot better than it is today, and the average model T could do 55 mph. My T had an overdrive, and would do 55 mph all day if I wanted it to. The speed limit on that road was 55 mph, and I was keeping up with traffic. I was not in any way an unreasonable hazard. 

Driving on the shoulder IS illegal (except for emergencies or farm tractors). But another law does say that you MUST follow a CHP officer's orders. So I drove on the shoulder for about four miles. Then, hoping he had found someone else to hassle, I pulled back into the traffic lane.

Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2

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1 hour ago, Plyroadking said:

Iowa allows YOM plates and you just keep your modem plates under the seat. You can bolt on any YOM plates you want, I keep copies of the vehicle code in the vehicles, I think I'm getting close to meeting and educating just about every cop in the area.

 

 

I have never heard of YOM plates before, and suppose California does not allow it. This does not seem reasonable in the least. An officer is m supposed to be able to call in a plate number and get the owner's name and registration status. Would that be possible? Your real plates are kept under the seat? Does the Motor Vehicle Department have the YOM plates you are using in their computer?

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48 minutes ago, mike6024 said:

 

 

I have never heard of YOM plates before, and suppose California does not allow it. This does not seem reasonable in the least. An officer is m supposed to be able to call in a plate number and get the owner's name and registration status. Would that be possible? Your real plates are kept under the seat? Does the Motor Vehicle Department have the YOM plates you are using in their computer?

California was the first state to allow YOM plates but being California they are handled a little differently than I've read about in any other state. Originally they were only for pre-1963 cars as all plates issued from 1963 and up are still current. They have recently done something to effectively re-issue the "black plates" but I am not sure what the details are other than I've seen them on brand new cars which looks weird to me.

 

For 1962 and earlier you need to find an original set of serviceable plates that match your model year. For some years, I think in the early 1950s, they issued metal tabs rather than plates if your car is one of those years then you need the earlier year plate and the tab for your year.

 

Here is the difference between California and any other state I remember hearing about: The numbers on the plates have to be "clear", i.e. not currently in use on any vehicle registered in California. The registration and (lack of driving restrictions) for YOM plates is exactly the same as a regular issue vanity plate. Once setup, the YOM plates are what are in the computer system for your car and are what are printed on your registration slip. You pay full registration each year and an additional "special plate fee". Because you are paying full fare the state has no limitations on driving. Your insurance company might care, but the state doesn't care if your drive the vehicle daily to work.

 

California also has a historic/antique tag you can get with reduced registration costs but those plates have driving limitations and I don't see many of them on things newer than the brass era.

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14 hours ago, Akstraw said:

I keep a copy of the NC statute regarding YOM plates in each of my cars along with the registration.

 

Yep!

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9 hours ago, mike6024 said:

 

 

I have never heard of YOM plates before, and suppose California does not allow it. This does not seem reasonable in the least. An officer is m supposed to be able to call in a plate number and get the owner's name and registration status. Would that be possible? Your real plates are kept under the seat? Does the Motor Vehicle Department have the YOM plates you are using in their computer?

 

They have no record anywhere that ties me to that plate number, I asked about that when I first moved to IA as I moved here from CA and had registered YOM CA plates on my cars. They said they can add the YOM plate number as a "tracking number" but they didn't really want to. Surprisingly, every time I get pulled over its for the expired registration stickers that happens to be on the sets I'm currently using on the vehicles. On my 1983 the plates are stamped '79 but have 1983 registration stickers as all plates issued from 79 to 86? Were a stamped '79. I haven't met an officer yet that thinks my joke about me believing I just had to register the vehicle once when it was new is funny, but I'll keep trying

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Florida has many, many plate options. I consider the plain blue and white "antique" plates ugly, rather have a normal plate.

 

Also "back in the day" Florida plates were coded by county, weight class, and use ("E" was a rental, rental companies fought it saying it made rentals targets. Today they put bar codes on the driver's side rear window). My Judge would have had a 7W-xxxx green (69-70) plate.

 

More specifically: "IV. REQUIREMENTS FOR AUTHENTICATION OF A LICENSE PLATE:
Authenticated license plates may be issued to any vehicle manufactured in 1975 or earlier. The license plate must be the same year as the model year of the car or truck. The license plate will be approved for issuance by the department as an authenticated license plate if the license plate has not been refurbished in any way and is still legible for law enforcement purposes. Authenticated license plates may only be issued to cars, motorcycles, and pickups weighing 5,000 pounds or less."

 

It is a little easier in Florida because there is only a rear plate. There used to be an "Arrive Alive" plate for the front but it has always been open (was told to take a Texas plate off the front once though). The Cobra Daytona use in Redline 7000 was rong.

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West coast cops. In the eastern states they are a little more calm. I haven't seen one all worked up and excited since I got stopped driving the Rolls-Royce with the license plates from a '58 Chevy on it. He was shakin so bad the doughnut sugar was off his shirt had footprints in it.

 

I have YOM plates on the old cars. I take my wife out to special places for lunch and one weekend we were over in the next county with the '64 Riviera having the pizza slice special at a convenient store and gas station. We were sitting in the tall chairs in the "dining area" looking out over the Riviera. Their local patrol had U turned and come back angling in a few inches from my drivers door, blocking it. I told my wife "Watch this." They farted around on the radio for a few minutes, then sped away. She asked "What was that about?" I told her they just got a lesson in Year of Manufacture plates. I bet they choked on the New York State issued VIN, too.

 

Funny thing, if I had turned my car 110 degrees and moved it 40 feet back it would have been in the spot where I bought it 37 years ago. It was backed up to the gully at the Texaco station used car lot that became a convenient store.

 

I heard that "Ignorance of the law is no excuse". Does that work both ways?

Bernie

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Once avoided a ticket in NJ for "enthusiastic shifting" when the officer saw my whole right hand was in a cast (bent Jag shifter was close enough to shift with my left). Wouldn't happen today, tires have a lot more grip. Can make the Crossie sound like an automagic.

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Just because somebody does something for a living does not mean they do it well, 10-15% of everybody employed in any certain "profession" is not that good at it Doctors, Lawyers, Plumbers, Electricians, Cashier's, Chrome guys and yes even Cop's. While it is true that a police job can be hard, but most jobs can be hard at times. I have many friends who are retired NYC PD and said it was a pretty easy job. Yes there are risk's but they knew of those risk's when they took the job,We all heard "he (or she) is the best in their field" that means someone has to be the worst

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2 hours ago, John348 said:

,We all heard "he (or she) is the best in their field" that means someone has to be the worst

 

I have THIS one filed in my memory bank........ :P

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