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1935Packard last won the day on August 21 2023

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  1. Maybe she was referring to steam cars and electrics with no transmission? Ok, ok, seems unlikely.
  2. It was added by the time of the 2018 auction, although since made a one-color car (as it was in the latest auction). Agree with you, though, it looks better in one color.
  3. My dad was a remarkable man who led a pretty remarkable ilfe, but he was not in any way a car guy. My grandfather did have an influence on my interest in cars, and I have his '35 Packard (which i drove just yesterday). But even he wasn't so much a car guy as he was someone who lived in an age when some amazing cars were around and were dirt cheap; he bought his 1935 Packard Twelve for $500. On the other hand, there's a picture of me in a little toy car when I was about 5 yers old and I am smiling ear to ear. I asked my mom about that picture and she said, "you always were happy around cars."
  4. Aj, I agree as to (1) and (3). Although having followed the 1101 market pretty closely for a few years, I disagree as to (2). Those were pretty typical numbers for a nice open Eight.
  5. Bob Woolfit's very nice 1934 Packard Eight Coupe Roadster, three auction results over 9 years. I don't know if the car has been not well taken care of, or maybe these numbers are quirky, but the results seemed worth noting. 2015: $195,000 https://cars.bonhams.com/auction/22205/lot/142/1934-packard-eight-1101-coupe-roadster-chassis-no-71919-engine-no-374108/ 2018: $173,600 https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/am18/amelia-island/lots/r0014-1934-packard-eight-coupe-roadster/602482 2024: $134,400 https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mi24/miami/lots/r0036-1934-packard-eight-coupe-roadster/1433627
  6. A lot of really unique car for the dollar, for those wondering: https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-8MNOGQ/1935-avions-voisin-type-c28-clairire-berline
  7. The sales brochure for the 1939 Plymouth offered this explanation of why Plymouth had switched to a column shift.
  8. If you're trying to research the originality of a LaSalle, get the build sheet. It has all the original numbers and options as it left the factory.
  9. I've always understood the "I can only pay $, I have to pay for shipping" as just an excuse to offer less —as if an excuse were needed, which it isn't. I mean, if I'm buying a car and I think a seller will accept less, I would be inclined to offer less no matter if the excuse is good or bad.
  10. Two more Delahayes at BAT. This '38 coupe by Chapron outside Paris was up last week but didn't sell. And the blue '46 Guillore coupe that sold for $98K at Monterey in 2022 is now up at BAT. I wouldn't think BAT is a good place to sell these cars. But maybe it's easy enough to try that sellers figure it's worth a shot, even if only to advertise the car? UPDATE: The '46 Guillore has sold on BAT for $92K, plus I assume the 5% buyer's premium, so that's a total of $96.6, almost exactly what it sold for two years ago.
  11. We all have to decide how we feel about being moderated. To some, it’s no big deal. To others, it’s a pretty major problem and it requires a lot of due process, care, and thorough vetting of all the relevant factors. If you’re going to post on an online forum, though, it’s better to take the former approach. That’s my take having spent a few thousand hours moderating online forums, at least; it’s the ultimate in thankless jobs.
  12. It used to be a heck of a lot worse. In those days, a car was worth around 10 cents on the original dollar by the time it was 6 or 7 years old.
  13. For reasons I won't bore you with (at least yet), I have been looking through archives of the New York Times at the automobile classified ads that appeared in 1942. The Times used to run a car classified ads feature every day called "Automobile Exchange." It was always in the sports section, usually on the last page of the sports section, perhaps on the thinking that it was men reading the sports pages and men who made the decisions of whether to buy a car. Here's what the Automobile Exchange typically looked like, taking March 31 as a pretty typical one: As you might guess, there were some ads for some pretty fantastic cars. A few that stood out to me, like this from George C. Rand, Bugatti's New York agent and a noted race car driver: And I'll take pretty much any of these, thank you: In 1942, with the war on, it was very hard to get good tires. So a lot of the advertisements emphasized that the cars came with good tires. It's a little funny today, though: Packard 12 Phaeton, with 6 good tires, and here are the sizes of the tires! "Hodich," at 1116 1st Avenue, the name in the Duesenberg advertisement, refers to Louis Hodich, described here as a "well-known New York dealer in used Duesenbergs." A few dealers were repeat advertisers, especially J.S. Inskip, Rolls-Royce's dealer in the U.S. who offered a lot of European high-end cars. Probably not too easy selling German cars in 1942, though. Anyway, some pretty cool stuff, I thought.
  14. Lots of big changes. For example, as you know, automatic transmission came at the end of pre-war, but it was rare; it was quickly the norm post-war. Especially if you focus on the new designs and technology that arrived around 1948 and 1949, it was a really big change from pre-war. My '49 Cadillac has an OHV engine, an automatic transmission, power windows and seats, and a power top. It feels vastly more modern than my '35 Packard, which has sidemounts, a rumble seat, wood framing, etc.
  15. The real reason to change the "antique" definition is that cars stay on the road much longer than they used to. Decades ago, cars, didn't last long; a car was used up after a few years. So a 25-year-old car was several generations old, the kind of thing you rarely saw on the road anymore. Today is different: The average car on the road today is 13 years old. And 10% of cars on the road are 25 years old or older. So a 25-year-old car today is just a somewhat older car, the kind of thing you see all the time, not some sort of ancient means of transportation.
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