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  1. I believe Dave Mitchell did a lot of work on that car, and I have a vague recollection that he spoke very highly of the car when it came up at some prior auction.
  2. I don't work in the insurance industry, but my sense as an outsider is the business model is usually based on assessing risk in large numbers. They come up with categories of easily-verifiable cases that lead to relatively predictable costs over lots of people, and that lets them price out insurance that will generate their profit. The individual who is low risk but doesn't fit into a preexisting box can run into problems, which can be very frustrating. Anyway, good luck!
  3. For me it was in the fall of 2007, when I had finally come to own my grandfather's '35 Packard that I had loved since I can remember. The car hadn't been driven in well over a decade, so I sent it to a shop that brought it back to life and made it (more or less) roadworthy. The shop was about a 3 hour drive from home, and I took the train there solo and stayed overnight with the plan to drive the car home the next morning. But there was a catch: I didn't know how to drive a manual transmission! Or at least I had never done it on an actual road, much less in a pre-war car. A week before the trip, a friend had taken me to a parking lot and showed me how to drive a stick on his Honda Accord 5-speed so I could try to drive the Packard home the next week. And that was all the experience I had when I went on my adventure to pick up my Packard and and drive it the 3 hours home. It was an absolutely glorious trip. Fall foliage, rolling hills through the Virginia countryside, people honking and cheering me as I drove through small towns. I tried to avoid highways, and it took me through some really spectacular scenery. Even a dirt road, for about two miles, in the middle of nowhere. The car performed perfectly. I was nervous about getting stuck or not knowing how to drive the car, but somehow I managed. And when I arrived home, I felt like the king of the world.
  4. When I was in this same boat, around 20 years ago, I first bought a beater "modern" car that just barely passed inspection. Cost me $900. (That "modern" car was a 1981 Volvo that is now an antique! ) Then a friend's wife's mom had a garage in the area where she let me park for a few months while I found a more permanent garage solution. I used the "modern" car to drive over to the garage where I could take out the antique car for a drive....
  5. Great to hear that's how your marriage works. It's not how other successful marriages work, though, and I hope our hobby is big enough to fit all kinds.
  6. I believe you said that if someone needed to negotiate with their wife about buying more classic cars, maybe they should find a new hobby. But most people I know under the age of 60 have 50/50 marriages in which they can't plunk down major $$$ on their hobby without getting the okay from their spouses.
  7. Re the 190SL, I was at a concours last weekend with at least 20 cars that were in the seven figure range. I saw a 190SL in light blue and whitewalls (sorry AJ) that absolutely stopped me in my tracks. Just gorgeous; a lovely design. And some colors really make them pop. It's slow, sure, but then a new Toyota Camry will run circles around a Ferrari from that era, not sure you get an old car for speed. Agreed they spiked too high in value compared to what else you could get for a while, but still, really neat looking cars.
  8. Under your standard, most of us under the age of 60 or so would be unable to have any hobbies. Or at least wouldn't be able to stay married.
  9. P.S. We should have an alternative thread we show our wives about this topic, in which everyone talks about how much money they made with old cars. Could help us all in future "negotiations" over purchases!
  10. Buy to enjoy, not for an investment. My guess is that the market generally will soften over time, as our cars and the infrastructure that supports them become more of historical interest and harder over time to support. The super-high-end market is harder to predict, as it's like the art market; it depends on how many super-rich people are sitting around with $$ burning a whole in their pocket. Relatively newer cars, like 90s era, are probably a good bet, as they're at the bottom of the usual depreciation curve. My guess, at least.
  11. So cool! I'd guess $25. (But if it's a 1917 car, in 1940 it's a 23 year old car, not 11 year old car, right?)
  12. On the bright side, at least it meant they were looking out for your stuff!
  13. My neighbors usually drove me to school as a kid, and they had a 1966 VW Beetle. Sometime around 1982 it was replaced by a BMW 528e, which seemed like an impossibly expensive high-end car.
  14. I had the great pleasure of being driven around Palm Beach tonight in the White. (Thanks, Ed, for a great evening!) The car is huge, and so solid, and so F-A-S-T. It's a serious driving car, that can be driven hard, and it's 104 years old! I was laughing most of the way, it was seriously entertaining. Here's a short clip:
  15. "Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants." -- Socrates, 470BC
  16. I suspect that the answer in 20 years will be "yes," for two reasons. First, it's inevitable that the standard used car becomes an antique as the styling becomes antiquated. Second, 21st century cars will have the benefits of 21st century emissions systems, which in 20 years will likely be a very big positive for a classic car.
  17. Conversation I regularly have: ****** Other person: I hear you like classic cars. Me: Yes, I do. Other person: That's cool. What kind of cars do you like most? Me: Mostly 1930s cars, especially Packards. Other person: Wow -- THAT'S *REALLY* OLD. ********
  18. Cr*p. Really sad to hear. Thanks for letting us know.
  19. Awesome, Ed. Sorry it was such a hard month, but I love this story.
  20. Awesome! A favorite video to add some motion and sound:
  21. Love this. Also, that's a very pretty Pierce.
  22. A year from now, we can expect a healthy debate over whether this is a "true antique forum" or "just a used forum," with someone lamenting that they passed up a chance to buy a forum like this for $200 a few years ago and can't believe it's considered a collector forum already.
  23. Hate to say it, but I suspect this is in the future for our hobby, or at least a decent-sized part of it. (I'd guess it's the environmental problems that lead to this more than the repair costs and difficulties of keeping cars on the road. But who knows.) And don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger! Long article in the Wall Street Journal, and it may be behind a paywall, but the beginning of it is below. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-future-of-classic-porsches-and-jaguars-electrification-11622865601 The Future of Classic Porsches and Jaguars? Electrification Owners of vintage sports cars and hot rods are giving them a second life by installing recycled Tesla powertrains. Dan Neil gets the lowdown on EV conversions. IT WAS A quiet day at Moment Motor Company, an electric-vehicle conversion garage in Austin, Texas, when founder Marc Davis said he heard “squealing.” He knew it wasn’t a fan belt. Christy Butler had arrived with her family to inspect the car of her dreams: an ivory-white ’67 Mercedes-Benz 250 SL with the “pagoda” top. After months of searching for her ideal car, Mr. Davis had found one whose engine he could replace with powerful electric motors, inverters and batteries. Since the work would take several months, he suggested Ms. Butler drive the roadster around for the weekend, pre-surgery. “She called me on Monday to tell me how much she loved it,” Mr. Davis said, “and in the next breath how she could not wait for me to get it out of her garage. It reeked of gasoline and was dripping oil on the floor. It’s hard to start. It’s got two chokes, an old four-speed transmission. So what happens? Her passion, her dream of the car fades away.” “When she gets it back,” Mr. Davis said, “she can just press the pedal and go.” Gasoline-to-EV conversions are not new. I met a JPL scientist in Pasadena, Calif., who had done the same to his MG British sports car in 1965, using lead-acid batteries. Facebook and the website EValbum.com document decades of such projects, from mild to wild, mowers to dragsters, by over-functioning DIY Quixotes. What is new is everything else, in bulk, starting with the cargo ships of automotive-grade lithium battery packs, high-torque motors, inverters, battery-management systems and controllers now readily available to privateers—much of it being exported from China, the spindrift from that country’s tidal wave of electrification.
  24. I'd worry not only about leaving the kids by the side of the road, but also about safety in the event of an accident. It's one thing to have a collector car that you drive on occasion, and usually by yourself. And when that was what people drove, that's what people drove. But with apologies for being a downer, our older cars are so much more dangerous to occupants in the event of an accident than modern cars are, and a family car with kids in the back is probably intended to log a lot of miles. (Most people don't realize that; they see a big old car and they assume big size means it's safe.) From that perspective, maybe it's not so bad that it won't run often enough....
  25. Both very nice cars. I used to own a '38 LaSalle, and I think they're particularly good-looking.
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