Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The dipstick is obsolete, just like: Standard Transmissions / clutch pedal Crank Windows Carburetor Chokes Carburetors Cowl Vents Wind Wings Door Lock Knobs Cigarette Lighters / Ashtrays Dash Nobs Battery Caps Tune Ups Grease Fittings Primer Cups Spark Advance Engine Cranks Hand Signaling 8 Track / Cassette / CD / LP players Headlight Brightness floor buttons Ignition Switches / Keys Fuel Shut off valves Running Boards Carbide Headlights Brake cable adjustments Radiator Cap thermometers Oil Bath Air Cleaners Mechanic dash gages Fuel Sticks Bench Seats Hood ornaments (standing up kind) Hub Caps Bumper jack slots Rear mounted fuel filler doors Full size spare tires Radio Antenna (stand up kind) Gas mileage under 20mpg Bumpers and bumper guards What did I miss? Added: Distributors Manual Side Mirrors Boilers, pilot lights, fire-up valves, blow-down valves Buzz coils compression releases inner tubes teams of mules to haul you out of the mud hickory / wooden spokes Shifter Knobs that screw off Landau roofs Continental kits Pop up headlights Coachbuilt bodies Picnic tables (the Brits did these so well) Tool sets that came with you car Whitewall tires Velour interiors wire wheel covers Wheel covers in general Long option lists / custom orders Vacuum driven wipers vacuum driven fan on the steering column 6V electrical system Generators Mechanical fuel pumps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Manual mirrors 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Distributors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Boilers, pilot lights, fire-up valves, blow-down valves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Drivers. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, Matt Harwood said: Drivers. Thank god we still have curmudgeons and sarcasm. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Buzz coils, compression releases, inner tubes, teams of mules to haul you out of the mud, hickory spokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Peter Gariepy said: Thank god we still have curmudgeons and sarcasm. And may we never lose them! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Leaving Soon: Internal Combustion Engines (and all its associated equipment) Transmissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Peter Gariepy said: The dipstick is obsolete, just like: Standard Transmissions / clutch pedal Crank Windows Carburetor Chokes Carburetors Cowl Vents Wind Wings Door Lock Knobs Cigarette Lighters / Ashtrays Dash Nobs Battery Caps Tune Ups Grease Fittings Primer Cups Spark Advance Engine Cranks Hand Signaling 8 Track / Cassette / CD / LP players Headlight Brightness floor buttons Ignition Switches / Keys Fuel Shut off valves Running Boards Carbide Headlights Brake cable adjustments Radiator Cap thermometers Oil Bath Air Cleaners Mechanic dash gages Fuel Sticks Bench Seats Hood ornaments (standing up kind) Hub Caps Bumper jack slots Rear mounted fuel filler doors Full size spare tires Radio Antenna (stand up kind) Gas mileage under 20mpg Bumpers and bumper guards What did I miss? Added: Distributors Manual Side Mirrors Boilers, pilot lights, fire-up valves, blow-down valves Buzz coils compression releases inner tubes teams of mules to haul you out of the mud hickory / wooden spokes Shifter Knobs that screw off What did I miss? Car enthusiasts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Pfeil said: Car enthusiasts See my response to Matt Harwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Peter Gariepy said: Leaving Soon: Internal Combustion Engines (and all its associated equipment) Transmissions To misquote Mark Twain The rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmhowe Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) "The dipstick is obsolete." This is not "Breaking News": Some car manufacturers recognized this a few years ago. A few examples: In 1928, Packards had an upper and lower petcock. The rule was to fill to the upper, and not let the oil level go below the lower. The 1928 Hudson Super Six had a small red cap in a sight tube to indicate oil level. The cap was connected by a thin rod to a cork floating in the crankcase. The 1935 Cadillac V8 had a system similar to the one Hudson used. I'm sure there are many other examples. Anyway, Peter, you have made a fun post. Thanks, Phil 1st Edit: By the way, I assert - without evidence to support - that the examples I mentioned are far more reliable than the modern warning lights. Probably just old age showing. 2nd Edit: Year ago, I had a colleague who was less than disciplined on engine maintenance. His oil light burned out and he drove the car to the point where it destroyed itself. He paid to have a new engine installed, but he didn't pay to have the oil light fixed. You can guess the result. Sometimes the weakest link is not the engineering design. Edited December 9, 2022 by pmhowe Addenda (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, pmhowe said: "The dipstick is obsolete." This is not "breaking news": Some car manufacturers recognized this a few years ago. A few examples: In 1928, Packards had an upper and lower petcock. The rule was to fill to the upper, and not let the oil level go below the lower. The 1928 Hudson Super Six had a small red cap in a sight tube to indicate oil level. The cap was connected by a thin rod to a cork floating in the crankcase. The 1935 Cadillac V8 had a system similar to the one Hudson used. I'm sure there are many other examples. Anyway, Peter, you have made a fun post. Thanks, Phil The new percock is simply an electronic sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said: Gas mileage under 20mpg All you need is to buy a truck to see under 20 MPG. Not one of these 4 door sedans with an open trunk, a real truck!😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Frank DuVal said: All you need is to buy a truck to see under 20 MPG. Not one of these 4 door sedans with an open trunk, a real truck!😁 Real or reported mpg? 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Here is an example, I found this by Google, dealer not in my area, and several dealers had the same info: https://www.allensamuelsdodgechryslerjeep.com/2022-ram-2500-mpg/ City 12 Highway 18 EPA rated. City 14 Highway 17 with diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Peter Gariepy said: The new percock is simply an electronic sensor. I just looked it UP, it's much more than a sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The antique car hobby as we know it after they take away gas cars. Soon to follow: gas stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Frank DuVal said: All you need is to buy a truck to see under 20 MPG. Not one of these 4 door sedans with an open trunk, a real truck!😁 My DD is a 2022 Ram Limited 1500 so yes a 4 door sedan with an open trunk but I use it as a truck. It replaced a 2011 Ram 2500 Mega Cab and I can say that it tows every bit as well with an open trailer but returns far better fuel economy. This is the 4th truck since 2004 and by far the most fuel efficient and right about that 20 mpg rating. And yes it sees everything and anything in the box and in the back seat with the seats folded up. Now in comparison to the 1977 GMC 1 ton window van that I had at the end of high school that the seller said got 12 mpg city or highway (I think that he was being generous) there is no comparison and I'm pretty sure that my wife doesn't miss the rust falling down from the windshield header! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studemax Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said: Leaving Soon: Internal Combustion Engines (and all its associated equipment) Don't believe those horse apples for one minute. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I was informed recently that Dodge Trucks are no longer Dodge, they are Rams. When did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 hours ago, pont35cpe said: I was informed recently that Dodge Trucks are no longer Dodge, they are Rams. When did that happen? About 10+- years ago Chrysler transitioned from Dodge trucks to Ram. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Larry Schramm said: About 10+- years ago Chrysler transitioned from Dodge trucks to Ram. To me it`s still a Dodge.. Oh well, only real Dodge i like, are `34 coupes and pickups. Thanks for the reply.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skvitt Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Looks like with run-flats, spare tires in general are becoming obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skvitt Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Also sealed beam headlights to the list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 cigarette lighters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skvitt Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Vacuum driven wipers, and that little vacuum driven fan on the steering column. 6V electrical system Generators Mechanical fuel pumps Ignition keys Edited December 9, 2022 by Skvitt (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Skvitt said: Looks like with run-flats, spare tires in general are becoming obsolete. The one thing I changed on Caddy I had not too long ago Skvitt. They are like driving on solid steel discs and I trashed them at maybe 14,000 miles. I believe if they stayed on the car it would be a complete rattlebox by 25,000 miles. Hope they either improve the technology or they go the way of plastic windshields... For the record, good technology that reduces or eliminates frequent maintenance on our moderns is fine with me, more time to spend on the fun stuff. Edited December 9, 2022 by Steve_Mack_CT (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 At a presentation by 3 manufacturers this summer, one extremely high placed executive strongly hinted at a surprise coming that did not involve electrical power. I later found out that it was very real as an engineer that is known to me is working on one aspect of it. I have no other info but that but it makes me believe that the ICE is not completely dead at least as one of the major US manufacturers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skvitt Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Landau roofs Continental kits Pop up headlights Edited December 9, 2022 by Skvitt (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Dodge was the smartest things ever put on the front of a truck and Ram is one of the dumbest. Think about it I’m sure you will agree. Things disappearing- creativity in the style of all cars. Been going that way for years. dave s 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Coachbuilt bodies Picnic tables (the Brits did these so well) Tool sets that came with you car Whitewall tires Full sized spares Velour interiors & wire wheelcovers. Wheelcovers in general Long option lists/custom orders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said: Thank god we still have curmudgeons and sarcasm. Curmudgeons and cynics sat on the temple steps 6,000 years ago, condemned the youth and change, while they laid out the scripts for 1/2 hour TV shows. "The only thing that changes is the date." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Paper fold out Road Maps. Caused by the loss of glove boxes. Edited December 9, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Ash Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Gee, my 1941 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser has 25 of the 36 things on the initial list - and it has a dip stick, too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gary_Ash said: Gee, my 1941 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser has 25 of the 36 things on the initial list - and it has a dip stick, too! Don't forget your INDY car has a seat for the riding mechanic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CChinn Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Interesting car colors that make you say wow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modela28 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Peter Gariepy said: Leaving Soon: Internal Combustion Engines (and all its associated equipment) Transmissions I hope not! I'm not ready and neither is the world ready for just EVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, modela28 said: I hope not! I'm not ready and neither is the world ready for just EVs. I don't truly believe EV will completely replace ICE. But I think in 10 years time what powers new cars will be radically different. Some for the good, some... not so good. Either way, change is afoot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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