Dandy Dave Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) Should work fine, Should it not? 🙃 Came out of an engine that ran. Just short on power. Edited October 12, 2022 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gariepy Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 ...being help by someone with dirty fingernails? 😁 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Looks like it met an immovable object in its travels😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TerryB said: Looks like it met an immovable object in its travels😀 A valve head me thinks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Looks good to me. Isn't that the new bent ring style piston?? For improved cornering performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Gives a new meaning to compression albeit localized. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdang Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Someone needed an air softener for the combustion air. Must have been in an industrial area... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregush Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I had a Model A that the pistons looked somewhat like that, only the top looked fine. Parts of the rings were missing, no clue where they went! It ran also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 How did the block look? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) Extreme detonation. No doubt in my mind. Edited October 13, 2022 by avgwarhawk (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intimeold Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 No not detonation; but something that was stronger than the piston. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Rings and ring grooves outline the "Power Curve"? but I also see a "Dip" in the compression 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swear57 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I agree with avgwarhawk definitely detonation. I have seen this many times over the years. Yes what dose the block look like? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 1/2" bore and it lacked power? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 hours ago, zipdang said: Someone needed an air softener for the combustion air. Must have been in an industrial area... Yup. The area was definitely industrial. The machine is a Track Master made by Fruehulf. I do believe she has been run hard and put away wet. 😬 😵🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 hours ago, John348 said: How did the block look? Here you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, 60FlatTop said: 2 1/2" bore and it lacked power? It's a square engine Burnie. 3-1/4 X 3-1/4. X 2. Wisconsin model THD. 🙂 Like my ol buddie Rex would say,"Her gots power when her feels good." Here's old Rex. 🙂 Edited October 13, 2022 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Oh boy -- THAT sure looks like it would be fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 13 hours ago, Dandy Dave said: A valve head me thinks. Valve head??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) A ForgedTrue piston that became a ForcedThru piston? Craig Edited October 14, 2022 by 8E45E (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, EmTee said: Oh boy -- THAT sure looks like it would be fun! Great pictures Dave, thanks for sharing. Worth seeing if would clean up with a bore if the oversize pistons are around 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Is that the same company that made/makes trailers? Right up the road from me. I had no idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 That'll buff right out... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, 8E45E said: A ForgedTrue piston that became and ForcedThru piston? Craig So much for the Perfect Circle piston rings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, TAKerry said: Is that the same company that made/makes trailers? Right up the road from me. I had no idea. Yes! They bought out Agricat that became Agritrac that finnished up as Trackmaster. The Track Master is 1/3rd larger than the Agricat Model F in the middle but the same design. Here's some in a line up. L to R, Model C Agricat, Model F Agricat, and Trackmaster. Edited October 14, 2022 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Also my Agricat model F Trackloader. Yup. I have 4 altogether. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 23 hours ago, oldford said: Valve head??? I found this in the tool box Frank. Also, the original head would have been Aluminum like the parts engine I aquired yesterday. I think it was swaped for a cast iron head when the valve went south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 Support your local salvage yard. I picked up this parts engine yesterday. Brought her home. Took a nap, ( The down side of Covid does that to ya.) then went to the shop and stripped her down. The cylinder jug and pistons look usable. Clean her up with new rings, gaskets, and a valve job and it should be good to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) After tearing the parts engine completely down and salvaged the jug and needed pistons plus quite a few other parts needed to get this Wisconsin THD back together, here's the end result after doing a valve job, installing new rings, cleaning everything, installing a complete overhaul gasket set with new seals included, and tune up stuff, plus a carb kit for the carburetor that I still need to go through. Eventhough that one piston doesn't smile at me any longer, the engine should be a lot happier. These were a real popular engine in the old days. I wonder if any of these two cylinders versions were used in automobiles? I did decide to leave the patina. No matter how much you put on, paint don't make em run. 😉 Edited October 27, 2022 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewOldWood Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 5:43 PM, Dandy Dave said: Should work fine, Should it not? 🙃 Came out of an engine that ran. Just short on power. Kind of like a christmas tree, just put the bad spot into the corner where it can't be seen and it works just fine!! Someone changed the head on this engine and left that piston in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, Dandy Dave said: After tearing the parts engine completely down and salvaged the jug and needed pistons plus quite a few other parts needed to get this Wisconsin THD back together, here's the end result after doing a valve job, installing new rings, cleaning everything, installing a complete overhaul gasket set with new seals included, and tune up stuff, plus a carb kit for the carburetor that I still need to go through. Eventhough that one piston doesn't smile at me any longer, the engine should be a lot happier. These were a real popular engine in the old days. I wonder if any of these two cylinders versions were used in automobiles? I did decide to leave the patina. No matter how much you put on, paint don't make em run. 😉 Never saw one but we Wisconsinites are are some clever repurposers. Started out making engines that powered race cars ended up running hay balers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Ran when parked, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Dandy Dave……..cool stuff! Love the lineup. Your collection of vehicles seems perfectly normal to me………..like minds think alike. The rest of the world sure is strange, and I’m especially grateful you and I are both “normal people”! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Dandy Dave said: I wonder if any of these two cylinders versions were used in automobiles? Disneyland had an early style bus they built themselves, it used a 2 cylinder industrial engine but I don't know what brand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 22 hours ago, NewOldWood said: Kind of like a christmas tree, just put the bad spot into the corner where it can't be seen and it works just fine!! Someone changed the head on this engine and left that piston in it? That is the way it looks. Replaced a valve on that side also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 20 hours ago, Restorer32 said: Ran when parked, I actually started it and drove it off the trailer. The choke was almost full on to keep it running. Good thing it was all down hill. After running a short time it acted like it was starting to seize. With that piston the way it was I can now see why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 22 hours ago, George K said: Never saw one but we Wisconsinites are are some clever repurposers. Started out making engines that powered race cars ended up running hay balers. I've worked on these old balers years ago. Most of the farmers around here went to PTO drive from the tractor as soon as they could. Biggest problem with these is that they would vapor lock on a hot day if the engine stalled, or was shut off. Tony Laporta's early GJG racer had a Wisconsin engine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, edinmass said: Dandy Dave……..cool stuff! Love the lineup. Your collection of vehicles seems perfectly normal to me………..like minds think alike. The rest of the world sure is strange, and I’m especially grateful you and I are both “normal people”! Yes sir Ed. Two more followed me home a few days ago. The orange one is reated to White. A 1935 Cletrac Thirty, serial number 2c-30. The other a 1956 Cat D-2 with factory direct electric start and glow plugs. Us normal folks know enough to just let this stuff follow us home. 😃 The rest just sit around and dream. 😉 Note the cutaway manifold. 🙃. You don't see them everyday. 😁 Edited October 28, 2022 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 The Tahis Special is a great old example of a racing Wisconsin engine, 450 cubic inch factory race engine. 3” valves and lightened gizzards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 20 hours ago, Rusty_OToole said: Disneyland had an early style bus they built themselves, it used a 2 cylinder industrial engine but I don't know what brand. It verywell could have been a Wisconsin model TH, or THD. Also there was a TJD. Interesting to note that the firing order was 360 degrees apart on the TH and THD as the pistons travel on the same throw. On the TJD model the pistons were on 180 degree throws so it fired on 180 and 180 and then had to do a 360 to get back to the power stroke. The TJD Sounds like an old John Deere two cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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