beerczar1976 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I know the bias vs. radial discussion has been beat to death. For the sake of discussion, I'm sticking with bias ply. Now for a 1950, what is the better white wall width to go with? I've seen sizes and pricing vary pretty greatly from 1" on up to 3-3/8". Pricing w/shipping from $185 to about $250. Thoughts? The Goodyear Super Cushion Deluxe's look pretty nice with a 2-3/4" wall, but are also the most expensive. Coker Classics with a 3" are the cheapest. Coker B.F. Goodrich seem to land in the middle price-wise but are all about $214. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 With an admitted lack of knowledge of 1950 correctness, I personally believe that any whitewall larger than 2 1/2" on a postwar car looks too wide. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The mounted width is usually 1/4" less than advertised. Most of the tires including the Coker Classics are available from Summit Racing: no charge shipping and usually no sales tax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I have driven the Coker and Universal(apparently one and the same). For some reason the Coker rides better from my experience with bias ply tires. For your model Buick, what WW size was offered for that year? Purchase a tire to match the same WW width. I agree Buick 5563 concerning the width of WW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerczar1976 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Thanks for the input guys. Ordered the Coker B.F. Goodrich Vintage 7.60x15s w/2-1/2" WW from Summit. Price includes Free Shipping. Should be here in about a week or two. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, beerczar1976 said: Should be here in about a week or two. Don't leave town...might be 2 or 3 days! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 5 hours ago, beerczar1976 said: Thanks for the input guys. Ordered the Coker B.F. Goodrich Vintage 7.60x15s w/2-1/2" WW from Summit. Price includes Free Shipping. Should be here in about a week or two. PICTURES WHEN THEY ARE MOUNTED! Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beerczar1976 Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Original rims powdercoated in Stealth Charcoal by Ken Dimitry's Metal Laundry here in Chesapeake, VA. Tires are Coker B.F. Goodrich Silverton bias-ply., 7.60x15. Will get the wheel stripes put back on at some point. Took a TON of measurements. Edited April 4, 2017 by beerczar1976 Correction (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 No expert, but looks nice! To me, MUCH better than the "gansta walls" that many seem to like on ANY car. Thanks for the pictures! NTX5467 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerczar1976 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yeah, went with the 2-1/2" sidewall vs. the 3" or 3-3/8". The Special, being shorter wheelbase than the Super or Roadmaster, I thought the wide whites would have been definite overkill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 hour ago, beerczar1976 said: Yeah, went with the 2-1/2" sidewall vs. the 3" or 3-3/8". The Special, being shorter wheelbase than the Super or Roadmaster, I thought the wide whites would have been definite overkill. For me, anything over the 2 1/2" is not appealing to my eye. What you have on the Special looks right, feels right and is right. Just one man's opinion! Enjoy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBulldogMiller55Buick Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On April 4, 2017 at 10:43 AM, beerczar1976 said: VERY NICE !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just wondered what you guys think of Ruby's new shoes ( atlas additions) , I prefer the new look , relise the traditionalists may not. Photos of old and new look below cheers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The new tires look good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivdrivn Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 7:41 AM, buick5563 said: With an admitted lack of knowledge of 1950 correctness, I personally believe that any whitewall larger than 2 1/2" on a postwar car looks too wide. Presumably, this is the correct look 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I see thes 50's pictured above are missing the TREASURED visor, dumb designers, hehe. Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick man Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 …. Rivdrivin that's because it IS the correct original look and ww-width…. wide n high like a pair of spats …. in 1950 narrower white walls for the most part had not caught on … for 1950 fords, chevy's , plymouths etc wore pad moon hub caps and black side walls … Buicks, Caddy's, and the top shelf offerings from Chrysler and Lincoln wore the wide and high look which went well with those big 8.00 & 8.20-15's …. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rivdrivn said: Presumably, this is the correct look Artist renderings were not always what was driven off the assembly line. Changes made at the dealer etc. But by and large I do believe the wider WW is correct for 50. Edited August 17, 2017 by avgwarhawk (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pilgrim65 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Cheers guys some great photos and interesting info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The new tires took me right back to 1965 when I put four narrow white Firestone Deluxe Champion narrow whites on my '50 Special fastback. This car came up for sale a little over a year ago and I think is my actual car with those tires still on it. The location and history all pointed to it being my old car. In 1965 you saw the straight tread Dennan's in wide white at car shows. The Double Eagles, US Royals, and the like were usually on hay wagons in my area. So, half a century ago they were the hot set up. OUr old cars are our window in time. Most of us weren't there to enjoy the window when new. One just picks the window they like. Bernie Oh, those were 7.60X15's. We sold the caps for $12 each. I more than doubled my investment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 On 8/17/2017 at 7:31 AM, avgwarhawk said: Anyone know what the thing in the middle of the grille is ? Fog light ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airy Cat Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 On 4/8/2017 at 2:52 PM, JamesBulldogMiller55Buick said: VERY NICE !! Your tires and wheels look great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, FLYER15015 said: Anyone know what the thing in the middle of the grille is ? Fog light ??? There were not many of those. In those long ago days, someone needing a push start was almost an ever day thing. That is a tall after market bumper/grill gard. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph P. Indusi Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Thanks for answering that question Ben. I never saw one like that before! And yes, I remember push starting cars was common back then. Joe, BCA 33493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elpad Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Talking about resurrecting a thread! Well here it is. Many opinions but not definitely a straight answer. So what is the correct W/W width for a 1950 Super, model 51 tire size 760.15? Don’t want any points deduction when the time comes to enter for a Junior Award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdmn852 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Hello I think these are 3 1/2 wide on the 49 Buick convertible,white walls were standard equipment on all convertibles and estate wagons.in 49 The whitewalls got smaller as during the 1950,s I seen era advertising showing what looks to about 4 inch white walls on late pre war and early post war Buick’s The size looks good on your car .Cleaning the rear ones always challenging I pull the skirts and jack the body up surprisingly how dirty they get when you drive them.😀 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Best I can tell 1960 Corvair Monza was the first production vehicle with the narrow (with black between the whitewall and rim) whitewalls ..if you don't count the '57 -'58 limited production Cadillac Eldorado Brougham. In 1961 varous new vehicles had both the wide and narrow whitewall.........but by 1962 every factory delivered whitewall was the narrow version. There are various versions of the narrow whitewall, just like the wide white, that varied in width over the years. By taking a good photo of a factory correct white wall (blow it up), and knowing the rim size, you can do a good guess on the size of the white wall using direct proportion measurements. Here is an example... the wheel is my '39 Century which has 15 inch wheels. Using a known dimension (the outer edged of the red rim measures 16.5 inches) I printed a full page photo of the wheel. From the picture the wheel measured 5.625 across and the white wall was 1 inch. using this method from a photo I get 2.9 inches for the whitewall and my actual is 2.75 so this method is within .15 of the actual size. Edited March 7, 2020 by Barney Eaton (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuickBob49 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Here is a photo of the tires on my 1949 Super 51. I've had the car since 1978. The black tire is a U.S. Royal that came with the car, probably from the factory. It is a 7.60 x 15. The distance from the wheel to the inside edge of the rib is 3-1/4 inches. I installed American Classic radials on it a few years ago, 760R15. The whitewall measures 3-1/4 inches, the same as on the old U.S. Royal blackwall. The tire height is also about the same as on the old one. Whether you go with bias ply or radial, for your 1950 Super, I would suggest purchasing tires with the 3-1/4 inch whitewall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 My '39 with Coker tires.......as noted above the white part is 2 3/4......... what do you think? Too narrow? Like your wife asking "does this dress make my butt look big" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elpad Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, BuickBob49 said: Here is a photo of the tires on my 1949 Super 51. I've had the car since 1978. The black tire is a U.S. Royal that came with the car, probably from the factory. It is a 7.60 x 15. The distance from the wheel to the inside edge of the rib is 3-1/4 inches. I installed American Classic radials on it a few years ago, 760R15. The whitewall measures 3-1/4 inches, the same as on the old U.S. Royal blackwall. The tire height is also about the same as on the old one. Whether you go with bias ply or radial, for your 1950 Super, I would suggest purchasing tires with the 3-1/4 inch whitewall. I also installed the American Classic Radial with 3,1/4” WW on my 54 Roadmaster size 800x15 when the correct WW size is 2,3/4“ but I wanted the radials that I could not find on that size. All brochures and paper ads shows the 50 with this wide WW. I think I would go 3,1/4 WW if they make them in bias ply 7.60 x 15. I have to check. Thanks for the Blackwall comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Diamondback will put whatever size whitewall you want on whatever tire you want. Buy a blackwall bias-look radial and have them put the correct whitewall on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elpad Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Barney Eaton said: My '39 with Coker tires.......as noted above the white part is 2 3/4......... what do you think? Too narrow? Like your wife asking "does this dress make my butt look big" That’s the same wheel, hub cap and trim ring configuration for the 50 Model 51, looks nice but I think I would go a bit wider on the WW. These are the correct WW width for the 54 but like I said, I could not find a 2,3/4 on a radial with bias look. 3 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said: Diamondback will put whatever size whitewall you want on whatever tire you want. Buy a blackwall bias-look radial and have them put the correct whitewall on it. Will check into that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuickBob49 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Here's a close-up of the U.S. Royal, 7.60 x 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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