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John_Mereness Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Anyone have a photo of this REO when new ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_Mereness Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Anyone have a photo of this REO when new ? This is a 1932 Dietrich Bodied Sedan and was referred to at the time as a "Victoria" and was displayed at "Reo Motor Car Company" showroom in New York at Broadway and 54th Street . Edited June 16, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, John_Mereness said: Anyone have a photo of this REO when new ? This is a 1932 Dietrich Bodied Sedan and was referred to at the time as a "Victoria" and was displayed at "Reo Motor Car Company" showroom in New York at Broadway and 54th Street . A period photo of this drawing would do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Casper Friederich said: I am fairly sure this is not a Renault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jacobsen Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Pretty fancy hood ornament for a Chevy! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Pole sitting was a short-lived fad in the '20s, and related fads followed. And I have seen a lot of children, quite a few adults, sometimes three or four people, and even more than a few racy photos sitting on the hood back in the '20s! But I think this is the first time I have seen a ballerina "toe" sitting on a radiator cap! Time to listen to "Swan Lake". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 3:47 AM, John_Mereness said: Interesting sidemount (I think?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 3:12 AM, John_Mereness said: Dealership was at 148-150 George St Sydney Australia. See another photo here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Carlton Carriage's 1937 Chrysler Imperial Sports Saloon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Spong Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1938 Willys Model 38 in Argentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 8 hours ago, Ozstatman said: Interesting sidemount (I think?) Father Devine was an interesting guy, but maybe not having the greatest sense of esthetics in car design. Considered the largest Duesenberg ever built the spokes are reinforced because they kept snapping. Now his house on the other hand was fantastic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodmont_(Gladwyne,_Pennsylvania) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 1:47 PM, John_Mereness said: Father Divine's Duesenberg Bus! When custom coach-building goes hideously wrong! Bohmann & Schwartz turned out some attractive custom coach-work but this car was their worst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: Father Divine's Duesenberg Bus! When custom coach-building goes hideously wrong! Bohmann & Schwartz turned out some attractive custom coach-work but this car was their worst! Bohmann & Schwartz have been accused of all the sins on the calander.............and they were guilty. I would say they did more damage than good in most of the restyling...............they made a few interesting one off's, but I would argue the clean simple design of a Murphy disappearing top outclasses about 98 percent of everything else they modified or built from scratch. I'm sure others will disagree...... Edited June 17, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Bob Jacobsen said: Pretty fancy hood ornament for a Chevy! Is she 'spring loaded' like the ones from the 1970's? Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: Father Divine's Duesenberg Bus! When custom coach-building goes hideously wrong! Bohmann & Schwartz turned out some attractive custom coach-work but this car was their worst! Here's a photo of it from 1989: https://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/forum/your-studebaker-forum/stove-huggers-the-non-studebaker-forum/50686-orphan-of-the-day-03-10-1937-duesenberg-model-j Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Another early mystery car, appears to be chain drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, twin6 said: Another early mystery car, appears to be chain drive. As per page 64 of this same thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, edinmass said: Bohmann & Schwartz have been accused of all the sins on the calander.............and they were guilty. I would say they did more damage than good in most of the restyling...............they made a few interesting one off's, but I would argue the clean simple design of a Murphy disappearing top outclasses about 98 percent of everything else they modified or built from scratch. I'm sure others will disagree...... The "Bo Jangles" modifications were ok, and the scratch built cars were pretty good. But the "updates' were awful as a general rule. I'm sure they were doing whatever they needed to do to stay in business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Re Bohmann & Schwartz - "the customer is always right" can come into play as well. If a customer wants something their way on a car they are paying for you do your best as a designer/artist to translate their desire into a acceptable ( sort of) accomplishment. It was especially true once the stock market crash of 1929 hit. Customers who had the $ got what they wanted or went elsewhere. I am not justifying some of the awkward looking cars that were built both in fender and body line. I always look at what was crafted/built from the perspective of what was it like economically at the time? where was the body/car made - what part of the country? In what country? etc etc. From today's collectors/investors perspective we judge what was done going on a century ago. Both aesthetically and mechanically ( " darn great cars but didn't stop worth a damn" - well perhaps in 1930 standards at the speeds traveled it stopped much better then expected if judged against other 1930 cars) A.J. states it very well in his last sentence. As a local historian for our villages history I have to forever keep that in mind when I view structures , what is considered beautiful , majestic architecture , has been torn down 40 years ago and replaced by some more modern glass, aluminum and concrete building ( no I won't say monstrosity) to meet the need of the time. I started 40 years ago an Architectural Review Board here in the village I reside in , and many times at many meetings owners of property would get outraged that they were not allowed to change windows , doors, colors to suit their needs and taste. If the new changes would not compliment the design ( huge modern bay picture windows on a Victorian era house) we denied them a permit to make the change. I quite often would get some people who submitted plans severely mad at me ( I am being kind in the way I stated that) for not allowing the changes on a vote by the members of the Review Board . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but some people's vision is so much better then others. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 1:44 PM, John_Mereness said: I don't believe that man knows how to fix a car... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Matt Harwood said: I don't believe that man knows how to fix a car... Looks like he's drilling a hole to mount his Trippe Lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, auburnseeker said: Looks like he's drilling a hole to mount his Trippe Lights. I thought he was trying to hand crank the engine over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: I don't believe that man knows how to fix a car... He does know how to comb his hair and wear new coveralls. He's drilling out a broken grease zerk. Doesn't everyone use a brace and bit for that????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 7:43 AM, twin6 said: A couple early ones someone might be able to ID (I can't!). Regarding the upper one of these - quote from my info source - "This is a photographer's prop car as we have other pictures of car with different people in it. Looks similar to Ceirano, Corre and Fouillaron,and a Renault. Fuillaroin and Corre were joint directors of a company making quads but also selling Renaults. Multiple rows/louvres, offset crank handle, so is a circa 1900 Corre-Fouillaron 3.5HP Voiturette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nzcarnerd Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, twin6 said: ND is a Manchester. UK, plate series which began in March 1923 and went through to March 1925. I think this is a late production Silver Ghost - probably from 1923, although maybe that body took a while to build and it was registered in early 1924(?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 minute ago, nzcarnerd said: ND is a Manchester. UK, plate series which began in March 1923 and went through to March 1925. I think this is a late production Silver Ghost - probably from 1923, although maybe that body took a while to build and it was registered in early 1924(?). And it appears the flying lady is 90 degrees off her normal perch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 12:01 PM, nzcarnerd said: Has to be later than 1922. Maybe that info was for another - 3 litre - car. More on this one from page 208 - which began life as an early 3 litre car - "A vehicle with a checkered past started life as a 1922 Bentley 3 Litre Sports, different registration, and still in use today. Bit of a 'Bitsa', chassis number 54 was a competition hill climb car in 1920s. Photo when it had a 4.5 engine and Sunbeam body used by City of Chichester Auxiliary Fire Service during World War II; - previously in use by Sussex Home Guard as the "Panzer-wage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, twin6 said: And it appears the flying lady is 90 degrees off her normal perch... Maybe she liked the breeze up her skirt? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keiser31 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: Maybe she liked the breeze up her skirt? Or the hood/bonnet was up earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, twin6 said: Winton? Or maybe it is an Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: Regarding the upper one of these - quote from my info source - "This is a photographer's prop car as we have other pictures of car with different people in it. Looks similar to Ceirano, Corre and Fouillaron,and a Renault. Fuillaroin and Corre were joint directors of a company making quads but also selling Renaults. Multiple rows/louvres, offset crank handle, so is a circa 1900 Corre-Fouillaron 3.5HP Voiturette. Quite a copycat although. I must confess that the twin rows of louvers in front of the bonnet gave me doubts. As a photographer's prop it make sense not beeing a Renault, as they were early on quite popular in their native France. The factory in Billancount produced not enought to satisfy the export market. Edited June 18, 2020 by Casper Friederich (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 23 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said: Father Divine's Duesenberg Bus! When custom coach-building goes hideously wrong! Bohmann & Schwartz turned out some attractive custom coach-work but this car was their worst! The driver's front fender looks a lot like a humped back whale. Not pretty! I have seen this car in person a couple times. It actually is worse in the flesh. In my opinion, this is actually a flattering shot of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, ericmac said: The driver's front fender looks a lot like a humped back whale. Not pretty! I have seen this car in person a couple times. It actually is worse in the flesh. In my opinion, this is actually a flattering shot of the car. I didn't know there were any flattering views of that unfortunate Duesenberg... I recall a straight on front view which reveals how the body widens from the cowl like buses in the era did. The tall overall height, cut-off sausage rear body, heavily rounded window openings and 'humpback whale' side-mount covers all told make this the hands-down worst body any Duesenberg was saddled with. Wouldn't you know it, many of the gorgeous one-off custom bodies have been lost, but this atrocity survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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