John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5/6/25, Parc des Princes, concours d'élégance, voiture de M. Elie Volterra, carrosserie Gaston Grummer, Omega-Six, catégorie amateurs torpedos plus de 2 places : [photographie de presse] / [Agence Rol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3-6-26, Parc des Princes, concours d'élégance [automobile,] carrosserie de Costier et Bourak (Isotta-Fraschini), 6e prix torpédos 2 et 3 places : [photographie de presse] / [Agence Rol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5/6/25, Parc des Princes, concours d'élégance, voiture Isotta-Fraschini (carrosserie Million-Guiet) carrossiers, [catégorie] torpedos plus de 2 places, 1925 : [photographie de presse] / [Agence Rol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 52 minutes ago, John_Mereness said: Auburn Look at all those whitewalls. If I want to make my 31 Auburn Correct it will have to have whitewalls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, auburnseeker said: Look at all those whitewalls. If I want to make my 31 Auburn Correct it will have to have whitewalls. Flashy cars for flashy people - but blackwalls were on many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bryankazmer Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 tough judging - that Isotta with the torpedo body came in 6th place!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 The IF torpedo is worth a closer look: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Paris-Renee au Concours d'Elegance. Auto peinte par Sonia Delaunay Edited June 18, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said: The IF torpedo is worth a closer look: Great detail - it is a riveted wood car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Paris Concours d´Elegance 1932 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 The car was pictured earlier - 1931 Cadillac V-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Paris juin 1931 concours d’élégance de la Cascade - 1931 Cadillac V-16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Paris juin 1931 concours d’élégance de la Cascade - véhicule coupé de ville Proux sur chassis Cord L29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Paris juin 1931 concours d’élégance de la Cascade - véhicule coupé de ville Rochet-Schneider 1929 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Paris juin 1931 concours d’élégance de la Cascade - véhicule Delage D8 modèle 1929 l’archétype de la voiture de concours d’élégance du début des années 30, bouchon de radiateur Lalique, pare-chocs Cromos et une parfaite harmonie des couleurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1931 Cadillac 355 V-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Concours d'élagence de voiture dans le Bois de Boulogne, Paris, France en 1931. (Photo by Keystone-France\Gamma-Rapho via Getty Images) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Concours d'élagence de voiture dans le Bois de Boulogne, Paris, France en 1931. (Photo by Keystone-France\Gamma-Rapho via Getty Images) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Just a good photo - probably not that old Edited June 18, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1928 Bournemouth Concours D'Elegance.Bournemouth, Great Britain. July 1928A.L.Baker (Minerva).World Copyright: LAT Photographic. Ref: Autocar Glass Plate B255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gunsmoke Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 When I look at all these period photos from circa 1930 "Concours d'Elegance" events, it dawns on me that (1) they truly focused on the elegance factor, especially the clothes, formal photos etc, and (2), the cars were typically close to brand new, often same year, suggesting it was as much about bragging rights, showing off, or presenting rare new cars as anything else. I presume some much older cars were included, but so often it seems in this thread that a 1931 Cadillac, HS or Duesenberg appears in a 1931 or 1932 Concourse. Would be unusual today to see a new car in a C d'E event? Now I have never been to an event, soo....Thoughts? Paris Concours d´Elegance 1932 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gunsmoke said: When I look at all these period photos from circa 1930 "Concours d'Elegance" events, it dawns on me that (1) they truly focused on the elegance factor, especially the clothes, formal photos etc, and (2), the cars were typically close to brand new, often same year, suggesting it was as much about bragging rights, showing off, or presenting rare new cars as anything else. I presume some much older cars were included, but so often it seems in this thread that a 1931 Cadillac, HS or Duesenberg appears in a 1931 or 1932 Concourse. Would be unusual today to see a new car in a C d'E event? Now I have never been to an event, soo....Thoughts? Paris Concours d´Elegance 1932 I posted a photo somewhere in the first 200 photos of a dog show at a Concours - so yes, Automobiles, Formal Gowns/fashions, and Dogs At Cincinnati Concours d'Elegance we have a class called "Future Classics" - it generally is very exotic new and newer sports cars. We are heavy with sports cars in our area and there are some awesome things here - ex. up until maybe 10 years ago there were more Ferrari's registered in Cincinnati/Hamilton County, OH than in any other City/County in the US, including Los Angeles and Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gunsmoke said: Would be unusual today to see a new car in a C d'E event? Your question reminded me of the first few years of Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance 1950 1950 Edwards R-26 Special Sport Roadster 1951 1951 Jaguar Mark VII Saloon 1952 1952 Jaguar XK120 Fixed Head Coupe 1953 1953 Austin-Healey 100 Roadster 1954 1952 Jaguar XK120 Fixed Head Coupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) The Concours d 'Elegance in Europe was a combination of things - it first and foremost was a showcase for not only new cars ( chassis introduction of say a V16, a new straight 8, new model or series etc) but it was also a high end social event , a place to be seen and designers of clothes etc also would parade their latest offerings for all to see. in France Biarritz was a primary location. Coachbuilders would also use these events to showcase their latest design and build to draw in customers. Awards were given for what was deemed best creations and reported in magazines of the era. This mostly happened in France with reports in Omnia, La Carrosserie, and the end of year ( October or November issue) auto number of L'Illustracion magazine. Most of the magazines I just mentioned are little or unknown to Americans. I learned of them when I saw a few in the collection/library of Henry Austin Clark Jr. about 1970. I then started to seek these issues for my own collection/library and was introduced to a auto book dealer , Peter Moore, in England by my friend English motoring author Michael Sedgwick. Peter and I became good friends and he acted as my agent /buyer for these at auctions, the French Retromobile and other venues so I was able to build a fairly complete archive which I use for my research and stories. Fortunately most all of the magazines were printed on coated stock paper so the photographs used in them are still clear as the dpi was very very high thus you got clear detail of features. I have been working on my archives to make it complete for over 55 years and it is still not complete, but nearly so. Edited June 18, 2020 by Walt G correct a misspelled word (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 8:58 AM, twin6 said: More on this one - Registration is Manchester CBC. Our RR Specialist Tom Clarke advises this is a 1922 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost with Cockshoot All-weather Coachwork. Cockshoot of Manchester coachbuilders since 1844 became Rolls Lancs agents, then others. Car chassis 23PG listed UK in 1959 and was in USA before 1972. Last seen 1998 with same body. Not in RROC but may be Silver Ghost Association 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Walt, I’m very familiar with the magazines. By the time I discovered them in the mid 80’s, they went from affordable to more than I wanted to invest for a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) This is a great Concours video - I would guesstimate 1932 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Concours_d'elegance-514023.ogv https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Concours_d'elegance-514023.ogv Edited June 18, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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edinmass Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Back when the world was much more civilized than we are today......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, edinmass said: Back when the world was much more civilized than we are today......... And when Automobiles were really big deals to everyone no matter how much money you had, where you lived in the World, and .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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