MrEarl Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 For your health's sake, here is a daily therapeutic dose of pictures or other Buick related "stuff" found on the web or maybe even some of my own. Some may be artsy, some may be old, some simple, some hot, some cold , some happy, some sad, some abstract and maybe even avant-garde or grandiose. Guaranteed to furnish only the daily minimum requirement of Buick to barely keep you going. It is not meant to be a replacement for driving or working on your Buick. 1
MrEarl Posted August 14, 2016 Author Posted August 14, 2016 Taken during one of my daily morning coffee walks around Buick Gardens 9
ScarredKnightfan Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Sweet! This should be an awesome treasure trove! Cort > www.oldcarsstronghearts.com pigValve.paceMaker.cowValve | 1979 Caprice Classic (needs new owner) "Tell me tomorrow will be brighter" __ KT Oslin __ 'Hold Me' 1
smithbrother Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 Mr. FITTY FO, the cup printer made a huge error. He printed 1945, meant 1954, got his last two numbers switched, Dale in Indy 2
MrEarl Posted August 15, 2016 Author Posted August 15, 2016 No K-cups here, make it by the pot and drink every drop. 4
Thriller Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) The '53 and '55 get to languish outside at Buick Gardens whilst the fifty-fo's get the new roof over their heads. At least we understand your priorities. Edited August 15, 2016 by Thriller Fixed typo (see edit history) 3
Mark Shaw Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 A sad photo to many; seen as an opportunity for a few.... 5
smithbrother Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 Oh,,,,,how I remember the first time I saw the 53 headlight design/trim, really like it, STILL do. Lots of those pieces ended up on customs, nice compliment to Buick designers, OH, OH, how I cherish those FITTY days in the dealership, we had a 53 SKYLARK & a FITTY FO LARK, you know the FITTY FO Lark that I tore the door off at two weeks old. MOTHER NEVER KNEW, THANKS DAD! Dale in Indy 1
Caballero2 Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, MrEarl said: Filled 'er up with ethyl, then hit the road to the summit. No vapor lock with that gas. Dan 2
JohnD1956 Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 This photo is very interesting. I can't be certain of the year, but it looks to be a 52 Chevy in the background with the hood adjar. That tells me that even when virtually new, the late 40- early 50's cars could, under some conditions, run hot. Also the photo subject, the 49 Roadmaster, towing what looks to be a 25 ft trailer, with at least 3 people inside, and preparing to decline 4300 ft on drum brakes without power assist, tell me the factory brake systems are truly well designed. This makes me feel a lot more confident about my 56. 2
SpecialEducation Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 3 hours ago, JohnD1956 said: This photo is very interesting. I can't be certain of the year, but it looks to be a 52 Chevy in the background with the hood adjar. That tells me that even when virtually new, the late 40- early 50's cars could, under some conditions, run hot. Also the photo subject, the 49 Roadmaster, towing what looks to be a 25 ft trailer, with at least 3 people inside, and preparing to decline 4300 ft on drum brakes without power assist, tell me the factory brake systems are truly well designed. This makes me feel a lot more confident about my 56. The fact that people did it doesn't mean it was smart! 4
NC-car-guy Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, JohnD1956 said: This photo is very interesting. I can't be certain of the year, but it looks to be a 52 Chevy in the background with the hood adjar. That tells me that even when virtually new, the late 40- early 50's cars could, under some conditions, run hot. Also the photo subject, the 49 Roadmaster, towing what looks to be a 25 ft trailer, with at least 3 people inside, and preparing to decline 4300 ft on drum brakes without power assist, tell me the factory brake systems are truly well designed. This makes me feel a lot more confident about my 56. I was thinking about how the h*** they towed that giant trailer all the way UP there! Now that you mention, yes the descent would be scary! Edited August 16, 2016 by wndsofchng06 missed a letter (see edit history) 3
smithbrother Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 Looks like the RM had a water bag on bumper, maybe a window water cooler, don't know what that item is on center hood? 4300 feet up, I don't know how steep the path up, but probably not the only car to make it up, & down. We all know you don't have to rely totally on brakes, use a lower gear, don't ride the brakes, and do what you can to keep the speed down. Many states back then forbid riders in the trailer as it was moving. Dale in Indy 3
Fr. Buick Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 It is a steep path now, and was worse before the road was modernized. Poor 49 did not have an easy day. Could a 49 Roady be ordered with manual trans? I doubt it could have made that hill with a Dynaflow... 2
old-tank Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 22 minutes ago, Fr. Buick said: It is a steep path now, and was worse before the road was modernized. Poor 49 did not have an easy day. Could a 49 Roady be ordered with manual trans? I doubt it could have made that hill with a Dynaflow... My first impression of the picture was: YIKES!! But if properly equipped (trailer brakes, load equalizing hitch, anti-sway, standard transmission, 4.XX rear gears) if would be fine. I noticed blackwall tires on the rear...probably truck tires. Still, if I had to go down the hill in front of it, I would want a 2 mile head start! 4
SpecialEducation Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 6 hours ago, MrEarl said: Note that the biggest trailer in the park is pulled by a BUICK! Back when the wife sold new trucks, a GM factory rep was in town for a visit and said something very true: Just about anything can get a trailer moving and keep it moving (especially if you don't care how fast it moves). It's when it's time to STOP the trailer that things start to break! 3
JohnD1956 Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 It looks like the same Buick from the first picture. Perhaps the first trailer did not make it down the pass afterall? 1
SpecialEducation Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 34 minutes ago, JohnD1956 said: It looks like the same Buick from the first picture. Perhaps the first trailer did not make it down the pass afterall? I'm pretty sure it's the same Buick and same trailer. If you ask me, that trailer is every inch of 30'. Anyone know the overall length of a '49 Roady? I think you could get 2 of them in the length of that thing! 3
RivNut Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 56 minutes ago, SpecialEducation said: I'm pretty sure it's the same Buick and same trailer. If you ask me, that trailer is every inch of 30'. Anyone know the overall length of a '49 Roady? I think you could get 2 of them in the length of that thing! X2, I think the sun reflecting off the front of the trailer blocks out the writing over the window. What's the car in the foreground pulling what looks like a motorcycle under a tarp? 1
MCHinson Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 Same trailer... While the lighting makes the trailer logo on the front invisible, the exact same logo is visible under the large window on the side of the trailer. 1
SpecialEducation Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 Yeah, they both say "The Magic Carpet" but additional Google searching hasn't produced more images or any more of the story for me. Every time I look at that thing, I think of The Long, Long Trailer. That's a 34' trailer being pulled by a Merc. Incidentally, the old flathead F*rd under the hood didn't have the guts to get the job done, so a stinkin' Lincoln had to step in for a few takes. If they had just started with a Buick... 3 1
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 20 hours ago, wndsofchng06 said: I was thinking about how the h*** they towed that giant trailer all the way UP there! Now that you mention, yes the descent would be scary! The trailer has brakes. I did it in 1957 with a '52 Studebaker towing a 33 ft trailer. Coming down was not as scary as going up, not knowing if the engine was going to conk out. Ahh, the things we did before we discovered " you can't do that!". Ben P.S. Burned the bearings out of the engine. That little Studebaker Commander was geared too high. Ben 4
MrEarl Posted August 17, 2016 Author Posted August 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, First Born said: The trailer has brakes. Ben My car hauling trailer has brakes too, but that doesn't remove the anxiety of when approaching every green light and you silently mutter "don't you change, don't you change, don't you.... you SOB, now do I stop or do I kick it and hope there's not a traffic camera watching" Red lights have a morbid sense of humor I imgine the torque that these old Buick engines had played into why you saw so many Buick's pulling big trailers. I have a McCulloch supercharger that came off of a 55 Buick estate wagon that was used by the owner of a mobile home park to pull mobile homes around with. That combination probably work well 4
MrEarl Posted August 17, 2016 Author Posted August 17, 2016 And while on the subject of Buick trailering Sort of makes me want to go out and buy a canned ham to pull behind Buttercup ... someday ... 5
RivNut Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) I think that Mr. Earl will like this one. Matching paint; matching side spears. Ed Edited August 18, 2016 by RivNut (see edit history) 7
Thriller Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 Fools who don't understand that P=m*v and cut me off cause more anxiety than traffic lights. Towing a Buick in an enclosed hauler gives a perspective and additional respect to what truckers deal with. That reminds me...I need to discuss the above equation and distance to pull back in front after passing a semi with the younger drivers in the house. 2
MrEarl Posted August 18, 2016 Author Posted August 18, 2016 Can't leave this subject without posting a picture of my all-time favorite Buick trailering picture 7
MrEarl Posted August 18, 2016 Author Posted August 18, 2016 17 hours ago, RivNut said: I think that Mr. Ear will like this one. Matching paint; matching side spears. Ed Love the car. Trailer..... ummm, not so much... and I hope that is a typo and you are not making fun of my big ears? 4
SpecialEducation Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Thriller said: Fools who don't understand that P=m*v and cut me off cause more anxiety than traffic lights. Towing a Buick in an enclosed hauler gives a perspective and additional respect to what truckers deal with. That reminds me...I need to discuss the above equation and distance to pull back in front after passing a semi with the younger drivers in the house. Oh, the stories I could tell... I used to move new cars cross-country for the Buick Pontiac GMC dealer my wife worked for. We were in Norman (south Oklahoma City metro), and had sister dealerships in Broken Arrow (SE Tulsa) and Colorado springs that we traded with quite a bit. The dealership had 3 rigs for trailering cars, and I was one of the few that was willing to drive the one with surge brakes. If you're unfamiliar, surge brakes use the force of the trailer pushing against the tow vehicle to apply hydraulic pressure to the trailer brakes. It's simple & effective, requires no special wiring on the towing vehicle (which was usually a 3/4 ton truck plucked from the back row of the used lot), and works great on flat, straight road - which there is no shortage of in Oklahoma and Texas. Flat, straight road is a little harder to find in Colorado Springs, though. That fact is not very bothersome until you are coming around a tight curve on a steep grade, and some old blue-hair pulls out in front of you and proceeds to go nowhere. You see, when the trailer is not straight behind the tractor, the surge brakes become less effective, which then makes the trailer want to push the back end of the tractor sideways, which makes the brakes even less effective, which makes the tractor even more sideways... Not that I was ever actually passed by a brand new $60k SUV that I was hauling, but there were times that the possibility seemed awfully close! Edited August 18, 2016 by SpecialEducation (see edit history) 5
MrEarl Posted August 18, 2016 Author Posted August 18, 2016 I have done quite a bit of trailering but I am unfamiliar with the equation of which you speak Thriller, can you break that down into simpler terms
FLYER15015 Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 1 hour ago, MrEarl said: I have done quite a bit of trailering but I am unfamiliar with the equation of which you speak Thriller, can you break that down into simpler terms Welcome to Physics 101. P=m*v means, "Momentum equals Mass times Velocity" Works pretty good in a straight line, but as Special Ed stated, on our twisty mountain roads with "surge brakes" you have to throw in the "Vector". You get the trailer kinked around in the middle of the turn and hit the brakes, that "surge" can kick your hind end right over the edge. There are more than a couple of trailers at the bottom of Monarch Pass, deposited there by "flatlanders" who learned this lesson the hard way. Particularly since guard rails are few and far between. Makes it easier to push the snow off the road. We also lost a snow plow that way last year. Mike in Colorado 3
jackofalltrades70 Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 12 hours ago, MrEarl said: Can't leave this subject without posting a picture of my all-time favorite Buick trailering picture How many times can I like this!!!!! 6 1
RivNut Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 My father-in-law and mother-in-law were passengers in a Pontiac station wagon being driven by a friend of theirs when the two couples were vacationing in Colorado. All of a sudden as they were going down a mountain they were passed by a Jeep being driven by a set of golf clubs. The Jeep had come loose from the Pontiac wagon and the grade was steep enough that the Jeep just took off on its own. They were able to pull it from a guard rail about another 1/4 mile down the road and continued on down the road. 1
smithbrother Posted August 19, 2016 Posted August 19, 2016 Matt, You can like as many times as YOU wish, and for good reason, it must look like ONE you know, WELL, Dale in Indy
MrEarl Posted August 19, 2016 Author Posted August 19, 2016 Man would I love to have that Fireball V8 neon 1
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