George Smolinski Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I like that color, caramel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossp Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I like it…. But if you showed me a paint chip of that color and said that was the plan for your packard, I would cringe and suggest you sell the project before paint. Looks like that cars owner has more vision than I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I don’t hate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CChinn Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, alsancle said: I don’t hate it. What about the WWTs? Would you like it better with black wall tires? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, CChinn said: What about the WWTs? Would you like it better with black wall tires? I think it would. But the color is dark enough that the white walls don't look horrible. Not great , but not horrible. Edited July 23, 2023 by alsancle (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryLime Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Just get rid of the ambulance lights. The car color is sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 That's not just any production 1937 Packard 120 convertible, it's the one-off convertible victoria. The late actor Edward Hermann had it restored and showed it at the 1999 Packard Centennial at Warren, Ohio. Of hand, I don't recall if the body was built by Dietrich (Murray) or LeBaron (Briggs). It looks the same as it did at the Centennial. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said: That's not just any production 1937 Packard 120 convertible, it's the one-off convertible victoria. The late actor Edward Hermann had it restored and showed it at the 1999 Packard Centennial at Warren, Ohio. Of hand, I don't recall if the body was built by Dietrich (Murray) or LeBaron (Briggs). It looks the same as it did at the Centennial. Steve, I believe it was Lebaron. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D. Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I like it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 12 hours ago, alsancle said: it's the one-off convertible victoria. The late actor Edward Hermann had it restored Ed Herrmann knew his cars. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) What do forum-goers think: Is the paint too glossy? Is this the case of using current paint materials that don't give a true historic appearance? Edited July 23, 2023 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsbrassnut Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Just to be a nit picker. That Packard is actually a 1936 120 B. It may not have been delivered until 37 while the body was being built. However its still a 1936 120 chassis and body base. The tell tales are the one year only bumper guards and dash details. Along with some other items as well. Having owned one for a few decades you get to know the differences between the years. The '37 model made a major change in the dashboard layout as well as the grille, hood side, bumper guards, wheels, hubcaps and a few other items. Drive Safe Jeff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Boehm Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 There is candy apple red and then there is caramel apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 1:17 PM, Xander Wildeisen said: I like that color, caramel. No, this Packard is truly butterscotch colored. Caramel is slightly paler and a hair more brown: Caramel Color from Google: caramel color - Google Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 12:46 PM, nsbrassnut said: Just to be a nit picker. That Packard is actually a 1936 120 B. It may not have been delivered until 37 while the body was being built. However its still a 1936 120 chassis and body base. The tell tales are the one year only bumper guards and dash details. Along with some other items as well. Having owned one for a few decades you get to know the differences between the years. The '37 model made a major change in the dashboard layout as well as the grille, hood side, bumper guards, wheels, hubcaps and a few other items. Drive Safe Jeff And I suspect the owner knows it's a 1936 as well, since the license plate says 1936. Title to thread has been edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Here it is when I encountered it in the flea market at Hershey 1989: 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I see it had Granny Smith green wheels back in '89! For me, the caramel/butterscotch/adobe/clay is at best OK. These large classics usually look best in classic colors as we expect to see them, black, dark blue, certain maroons, and so on. But as we often say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder/owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The butterscotch is a true Art Deco color as is the style of the car, marking the end of an era. I would say some deep thought went into the choice. And it may have taken some urging. Forty years ago I changed the color of my '64 Buick Riviera from its original Code S bronze to maroon. I have been watching reruns of The Rockford Files for three months trying to convince myself to paint it bronze again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Maybe it's me, but the convertible top in that 1989 picture looks hideous. Does anyone know how the car looks with the current (brown) top up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Yes. It looks good now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 15 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said: Here it is when I encountered it in the flea market at Hershey 1989: Do you happen to remember what the asking price was in 1989? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, K8096 said: Do you happen to remember what the asking price was in 1989? No, that little bit of information is lost to time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 3:11 PM, HarryLime said: Just get rid of the ambulance lights. The car color is sweet. No pun intended? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 7:42 AM, John_S_in_Penna said: What do forum-goers think: Is the paint too glossy? Is this the case of using current paint materials that don't give a true historic appearance? Having seen many original cars in that color and shades of brown very close to it, the current finish definitely has far more gloss from when it left the factory. In my eyes, it does not detract from it, as an original owner probably wished it was like that when new when cars had to be waxed after washing regularly!! Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, 8E45E said: an original owner probably wished it was like that when new Always my thought when the conversation heads that way. I wax my cars in the garage with the door open so I can see the reflection of the leaves on the trees outside. As a good shine should. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Butterscotch was indeed a very art deco color. It was a hugely popular color in bakelite: butterscotch bakelite - Google Search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose ELA Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I bought the 36 Packard on February of this year, the correct name for the paint is Permet tan dark, original color for a 36 Packard 120 model, everyone seems to like the color, I’m actually driving a hall of famer at the Pasadena Rose Parade 1/1/24 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I have driven in several parades, been a long time though. And never one as well known as the Rose Parade! (Although my picture, riding in a friend's car, is in a Life Magazine Winter 1977!) Welcome to the forum! I hope you have and enjoy that Packard for many years to come! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose ELA Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I’m blessed to have this car, this car has allowed me to be a part of the higher end car shows, even as I didn’t buy it for that purpose, when I bought it I didn’t know the whole history of the car, I just knew this car had been at pebble beach in 1997, to me that was enough to buy it, since no one I knew had ever had a car shown at Pebble Beach, later I found out the whole history of it, I also have a 1937 Packard 1508 12 cylinder limousine and a 1939 Packard super 8 convertible coupe 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 6:42 AM, Alex D. said: I like it! If I were the owner of that car, I'd keep a bowl full of these, or one-bite Kraft Caramels, McIntosh Toffee, etc., for the kids at car shows. It will force the parents to stop and look at that Packard. Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7th Son Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Why doesn't the back seat upholstery match the front? With the present restoration, I presume it is correct, but I have never encountered a similar mis-match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose ELA Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 That’s the way RM restoration upholstered it when they did the frame off restoration for Edward Herrmann in 1996, it’s the only 120B with a full back seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose ELA Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 It’s the only 120B convertible coupe with a full back seat and a 3 position convertible top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Looked good in the parade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 12/17/2023 at 6:55 PM, Jose ELA said: I bought the 36 Packard on February of this year, the correct name for the paint is Permet tan dark, original color for a 36 Packard 120 model. I believe its correctly spelt Premet Tan Dark, not 'Permet'. More on the history of the 'Premet' name here: Restoration.pdf (squarespace.com) Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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