8E45E Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Not counting the post-war cars, how many have seen at least one example of each car in Classic & Sportscar's list here? 40 US car makers you might not know (msn.com) Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepher Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I've seen quite a few of those mentioned and I own one of them on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Those were some tough ones. I did not recognize almost a third of them and I am usually hard to stump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Skelly Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I didn't recognize 9 of the 40 and have seen slightly over half of the cars listed. Thanks for posting this, Craig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 There were 10 I did not know or I forgot about them. I have a step plate for a Herreshoff if anyone needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 20 out of 40, I did better than I thought I would. I do admit that a few of the cars I learned from reading this forum. Most of the others I had heard of already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I did a quick look through, and decided there were three I had not heard of. Then as I went back through a bit slower, the De Schaum caught my eye, and I looked closer. The writeup says it was marketed as the "Seven Little Buffalos". And THAT I have heard of! It was mentioned in one of Floyd Clymer's books! I read that about fifty years ago. That leaves the Glasspar and the Birmingham I don't know for sure if I ever read about them or not. I "think" I did see a Glasspar once, but there were so many low production sports cars and kits in the 1950s and 1960s, and I have read short articles or actually seen a dozen or two of them over the years. Since I have never been seriously interested in such cars, I don't pay them much attention, and do not remember half their names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Not much of a challenge. There was a deliberate attempt to list a few that probably don’t even exist. I have actually driven two of the cars in the photos. One of them in the last month. There are many examples of only a single surviving car from a small to medium automotive marques. Rare doesn’t mean valuable or historically important. The Glasspar was unimpressive………..I would prefer a Myers Manx dune buggy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, edinmass said: Not much of a challenge. There was a deliberate attempt to list a few that probably don’t even exist. I have actually driven two of the cars in the photos. One of them in the last month. There are many examples of only a single surviving car from a small to medium automotive marques. Rare doesn’t mean valuable or historically important. The Glasspar was unimpressive………..I would prefer a Myers Manx dune buggy. Great comment, and by the way, several years back - (multiple decades?) During a West Coast business trip I had the pleasure of meeting Bruce Meyers and drove one of his original Meyers Manx- It was truly the fun I had expected. Never got to drive the Davis when my friend David had his ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, edinmass said: Rare doesn’t mean valuable or historically important. I don't see the word 'rare' being used in the text to describe any of those 40 cars in that slideshow. but some of them ARE interesting, and worth a look. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I collect postage stamps that depict cars - boy are there some obscurities that show up there! Mustad, Marcus, Abadal, Bjering, Bucciali, Csonka, Durkopp, Ikco, Leutner, Nazzaro, Pegaso, Phanomobile, are just some that come to mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 12/17/2022 at 9:49 AM, Jim Skelly said: I didn't recognize 9 of the 40 and have seen slightly over half of the cars listed. Thanks for posting this, Craig! Ditto. Typically I would call one of these lists idiotic. However, the fact that I didn't recognize almost 25% makes we wonder if the list is cool or made up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, alsancle said: Ditto. Typically I would call one of these lists idiotic. However, the fact that I didn't recognize almost 25% makes we wonder if the list is cool or made up. I considered the source of this list. Being a reader of Classic & Sportcar for nearly 4 decades convinces me they would have done their research and would be in the know of which marques are obscure. Remember, to 'wow' readers and keep their numbers up, them, and all the other vintage vehicle publications continuously search for these almost unknown makes of cars to feature in their magazines. Craig Edited January 3, 2023 by 8E45E (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Kingsley Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I've heard of Apperson, Citicar, Columbia, Elcar, Flanders, Glasspar, Lozier, O-We-Go, Pope, Rickenbacker, Roosevelt, Ruxton, Scripps-Booth and Wills Saint Claire and I've photodocumented Brush, Cartercar, Chandler, Detroit Electric, Durant, Jeffrey, McIntyre, Oakland and Zimmer. I've also photodocumented an E-M-F which the Flanders went into. I've never heard of Welch but I would really like to see one of those. That name has significant meaning to my family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Welch was built from about 1904 - 1911. It was bought by GM in 1910 and was more or less absorbed into the GM organisation with cars only built for a year or two after the buy out. Only a very small number of Welch's have survived. One in particular was owned by noted author and early participant in the old car hobby Ralph Stein. The car is featured in one of his well known books about vintage cars. Yet another one of those higher end cars that for one reason or another were almost scrapped to extinction 80 to 100 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 My Grandfather had an underslung Regal. Sorry it didn't make the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akstraw Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Seven of the forty of which I was previously unfamiliar. One of the forty (Detroit Electric) that I have actually owned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLF Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 14 hours ago, 1912Staver said: Only a very small number of Welch's have survived. One in particular was owned by noted author and early participant in the old car hobby Ralph Stein The car is featured in one of his well known books about vintage cars. This same car is now in West Vancouver, Canada and is undergoing a full restoration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 If one is interested in the subject matter, Classic & Sportscar is a great magazine. Seems like a lot of info crammed into each issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 11 hours ago, KLF said: This same car is now in West Vancouver, Canada and is undergoing a full restoration. Is it just here for a restoration or has someone local bought it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLF Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 12 hours ago, 1912Staver said: Is it just here for a restoration or has someone local bought it ? It was purchased at auction maybe 3 years ago by a fellow from West Van. It's in a restoration shop locally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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