George Smolinski

Anyone have “Old Cars Price Guide” handy?

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Thanks to all who replied, although only one person replied AND stayed on topic. The rest of you gave me some interesting reading anyway. To sum up:

I did state in a reply that OCPG the operative word is guide. I don’t live or die by it. I do make use of other sources as well. I use the “guides” and other sources when I’m looking to buy a car to flip that I’m not real familiar with. It’s worked well for me & I’ll continue to use it. 

It appears that every person replying to this topic has their opinion and their own way of buying and selling cars and they seem to work for said persons. I just described mine. It works for me. End of story. But keep the replies coming. It’s always good to hear what others are doing.

References seem to have been made in this thread to expensive and very expensive cars rarely, if ever, driven anymore. These are not the type of cars I was referring to. The ‘40 Ford Tudor is an older restoration, meaning paint, chrome/stainless redone, interior redone with improper material, original flathead & trans, no rust on body before paint. Just a nice driver.

The ‘46 Buick Special is all original, straight 8, no rust Alabama car, everything intact right down to original spare, jack, & keys. Another nice driver supposedly owned by the man that started Chick-Fil-A.

Thanks again everyone.

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George,

    You asked about Value... What car is more fun to own/drive? 

 

1940 Ford two door sedan. Flathead, floorshift, restored years ago, #4 condition.

          vs.

1946 Buick Special two door. Straight 8, All original. No rust, not even bubbles. #4 condition

 

Both beautiful cars, I lean towards the Ford (but I am a Ford guy) ease of replacement parts, but the Buick is a close second.  It might come down to color, they are so close for me... Buick has juice brakes...straight eight has great torque....side open hood...

 

Image result for 1946 Buick Special two door

 

Image result for 1940 ford sedan

 

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supposedly owned by the man that started Chick-Fil-A

 

George,

 

As you very likely know, so many vehicles come with a

"Supposedly owned by", or

"Believed to have been owned by", or

"May have been owned by" story. 

 

Unless there is indisputable documentation, it is simply a legend, an interesting story, and should have no discernable effect upon actual value.

 

Of course I "may" be interested in selling my Franklin V-12 Speedster Town Car (complete with original Franklin Stove Heater and Signed Marconi Wireless Radio) which is supposed to have been owned by Benjamin Franklin, and driven in George Washington's Inaugural Parade from the Washinton Monument to the Lincoln Memorial, where he and Martha then of course rode in a Lincoln Town Car.

 

In any event - good luck with the possible purchase of the Buick

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If I believed the Hagerty value for my 70 Judge #3, 4-spd, AC then I probably should keep it in a glass case and not drive it. All of my cars are drivers.

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27 minutes ago, Graham Man said:

George,

    You asked about Value... What car is more fun to own/drive? 

 

1940 Ford two door sedan. Flathead, floorshift, restored years ago, #4 condition.

          vs.

1946 Buick Special two door. Straight 8, All original. No rust, not even bubbles. #4 condition

 

Both beautiful cars, I lean towards the Ford (but I am a Ford guy) ease of replacement parts, but the Buick is a close second.  It might come down to color, they are so close for me... Buick has juice brakes...straight eight has great torque....side open hood...

 

Image result for 1946 Buick Special two door

 

Image result for 1940 ford sedan

 

 

You asked about Value... What car is more fun to own/drive? 

 

I vote for the Buick - any day of the week-

More rare by comparison, 

OHV Straight Eight engine,

All-Original Unrestored car,

Smooth cross-country cruiser-

 

Nothing against the Ford, but for me the Buick is the better choice.

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7 hours ago, edinmass said:

 

.the top dealers and brokers in the world will all tell you 95 percent of all cars are now an either stable or depreciating asset.........95 percent. The top stuff is still on fire and going strong, but trickle down isn't coming to 98 percent of the market like the pony cars have done to the other GT cars. Enjoy the hobby, show......tour.......vacation......forget values or you won't enjoy yourself. Money spent on cars is like money spent at the casino......it makes NO sense, unless you're are being entertained. I have made and spent countless dollars on cars..........seven figures for certain......... in the end between the gains and losses I figure I am about even. But in the world of fun, pleasure, excitement, travel, friends, people, and all the other thing that come along for the ride........"I'm wealthier than Bill Gates" and the rest of the DOT COM billionaires............because I am SURE I am having more fun than they are. Get in your car and drive......or show.......or whatever floats your boat. None of us are getting out of this world alive, and the only cure is to have a good time while we are here.........I know I am! 👍

 

 

Ed, great comment.  I just grabbed my keys and am leaving to take an old car out for a ride.  

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Having had two of the Truett Cathy cars come through my shop, I wouldn't touch another one even if someone gave it to me for free. They were both quick fluff-and-buff jobs by shops that didn't know what authentic was, and then they sat in his collection for years and were never driven. Wrong colors, wrong upholstery, wrong fasteners, extra gauges hanging under the dash, aftermarket air cleaners instead of oil bath units, goofball hubcaps, etc. One ran well after we fed it fresh gas and rebuilt the fuel pump, one needed another $1000 worth of work to be operable. Probably OK for guys who just want an old car to cruise around town in, but glaringly (and embarrassingly) wrong if you are someone who pays attention to details. They embodied the virtues of cars that were both indifferently restored AND neglected.

 

Maybe that helps with the decision?

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Those old car price guides interpolate,  Sometimes we call it fuzzy logic. When they first came out I thought it interesting that they gave a price for every year, make, and model. Then I found out the method.

 

Three statisticians go hunting...renderTimingPixel.png

They see a rabbit in the bushes.

One of them shoots, misses to the right.

Another one shoots, misses to the left.

The third one starts clapping: "We got him!!!, we got him!!! "

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