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The "Victoria Coupe" body style of 1914-1934


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My V-63 Cadillac is a 5-passenger coupe, not a Victoria (in Cadillac parlance)

The driver's seat is about 30% larger that the front passenger seat. My wife prefers the rear seat over that diminutive front passenger perch.

As the overhead views posted above indicate, the Cadillac Victoria coupe had a parcel compartment taking up most of the space behind the driver's seat, while the 5-p coupe offered a full-width rear seat.

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8 hours ago, 95Cardinal said:

My V-63 Cadillac is a 5-passenger coupes, not a Victoria (in Cadillac parlance)

The driver's seat is about 30% larger that the front passenger seat. My wife prefers the rear seat over that diminutive front passenger perch.

As the overhead views posted above indicate, the Cadillac Victoria coupe had a parcel compartment taking up most of the space behind the driver's seat, while the 5-p coupe offered a full-width rear seat.

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I know that car & where the pictures were taken.  🙂

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13 minutes ago, motoringicons said:

Although it is newer than 1930, here is one of my favorite  Victoria Coupes from 1932 that I just recently visited with again. One  of only a few Marmon Sixteen victoria coupes in existence.

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I believe that is the one from the John Morgan collection, from 20 years ago?

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2 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is sad looks like it could be a photo from 1955 but I think it is more recent, hope someone saves it. 

 

Bob, go to the CCCA forum and the RR thread.  There is a link to the entire for sale advertisement.   The car came from the Brad Hunter collection.  Brad was "Silverghost" on the forum and passed away some years ago.

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1 minute ago, alsancle said:

 

Bob, go to the CCCA forum and the RR thread.  There is a link to the entire for sale advertisement.   The car came from the Brad Hunter collection.  Brad was "Silverghost" on the forum and passed away some years ago.

Thank you! That would be an instant upgrade to my social standing in town "Eccentric guy with the old Rolls Royce" 

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Here is my 1930 Stutz Deauville. I think it may be the only one in existence (I would love to be wrong about that!). Weymann body. Almost finished with complete restoration. A lovely car in every way. 5 seats, two doors. A little dark in the back seat. Like an old carriage. - Bob

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Really enjoying this thread after looking at it again. I hope to contribute if I can find the time to look through my archives - to many questions , " so whatca got on a ............." . I try to accommodate but it is a private collection of material and I am not a public library. Just like to share stuff with all of you if/when I can. Once and a while a few friends get invited to stop in to look; always my friends from Europe who do so on their way home to Europe after attending Hershey before they go to JFK airport for a monotonous 10+ hour flight east. Hope that continues next year. The occasional visits have gone on for decades - the late Jay ( Jules) Huemann the Hispano-Suiza guy from Ca. visited here at least twice to see some H-S stuff on his way to Europe to attend the H-S Club rally.

I promise I will try to get something on here to add to the madness in the next month or so.

Cheers everyone,

Walt

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Educate me as to why some people call a Victoria Coupe and "coupe", while others assert that the correct name is 2-door sedan. I'd rather be owning a vehicle that I can call a "Victoria Coupe" than a "sedan".  Moreover, as far as the high ender vehicles like the 1932 MARMON I have never seen these higher market vehicles referred to as a "sedan" while with a Ford or a Chevrolet or sometimes a Dodge, I have seen some of these cars manufactured in the years 1032 through 1938 described as a 2-door sedan. Are all 2-door sedans manufactures in the 1920s and 1930s also "Victoria Coupes"?  

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52 minutes ago, BucketofBolts said:

Educate me as to why some people call a Victoria Coupe and "coupe", while others assert that the correct name is 2-door sedan. I'd rather be owning a vehicle that I can call a "Victoria Coupe" than a "sedan".  Moreover, as far as the high ender vehicles like the 1932 MARMON I have never seen these higher market vehicles referred to as a "sedan" while with a Ford or a Chevrolet or sometimes a Dodge, I have seen some of these cars manufactured in the years 1032 through 1938 described as a 2-door sedan. Are all 2-door sedans manufactures in the 1920s and 1930s also "Victoria Coupes"?  

The two-door sedan typically had the same overall shape and body architecture as the four-door sedan, whereas the victoria coupe was more close-coupled in the seating and exterior proportions.  Maybe pictures are better than a thousand words.

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Ron, I really like it! very unique , and the oval window at the side, incredible landau irons, sun visor,  bobbed fenders. NEAT car. None of that you see incorporated into one car and it is well done, not just pasted on.  But I do like the 'odd' cars and orphan makes .

Walt

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This is a 1934 Chevrolet Master town sedan... that is two oversized front doors.. with tilt up bucket seats, which gives access to the back seat... trunk is added to the main body that ends near the center of the rear axle..... 114" wheel base... first year for the Dubonnet independent front suspension.... synchromesh in the transmission... 

car now being rebuilt after sitting outside for 50+ years...

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Good Heavens! A 1930 Nash Twin-Ignition Eight Series 490., 2 door 5-passenger Victoria Model no. 499. 298.6 c.i. straight eight on the 133" wheelbase!  Is this a sole survivor?  I recall seeing this car in the Hershey Chocolate Field some years ago.  I caught sight of it looking south off the pedestrian bridge, could hardly believe my eyes.

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Nash carried the Victoria name at least until 1935.  I owned a 1935 Advanced Six Twin Ignition from about 1984 into the early 1990s.

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Andy and Lisa were pretty young at the time. Andy is 41 now.

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At the time the story went that there were two running ones known and a third in a junkyard.Headlights were hard to get at the time because the repop Auburn Speedster guys were scooping them up. Don Axelrod fixed me up with alternatives. The Twin Ignition had been replaced by a new distributor. I put that back to original and ran about 35' of spark plug wire.

 

I sold it as life moved on and two weeks ago my wife and I rode around the hangars at our local airport, turned a corner and !

 

There is was. Sitting on a Ranger frame. I am glad I held up better.

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Sort of related to this subject.....  I read or heard somewhere that people with young families liked a 2 door because there were no rear doors for

the kids to accidently open.    You could get 4-5 kids in the back of a Victoria.     In times before seat belts,  lockouts for rear doors and DOT approved child seats. 

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I am a little late to the party.  Attached are a few pictures of the 1924 Oakland.  I believe it fits the thread title.  It is the typical Fisher body ‘Victoria coupe’ style body.  Even though I believe Oakland considered this a coupe or doctor’s coupe.  It has the smaller jump seats in the front with a 2/3 rear seat with a compartment right behind the drivers seat.  It is also equipped with a trunk.

This Oakland is one of my favorites as it has features of a much more expensive car for 1924, such as full pressurized engine oil system and 4 wheel brakes.

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