Marty Roth Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) I'm trying to decide if I should put one of our cars up for sale. I've given some thought to putting my 1934 Model 57 on the market. It was just awarded Senior Grand National at Moline. IL last month (First Junior at Stowe-2011; Senior at Bristol-2011; First Grand Nation at Shelbyville-2012). I just haven't really decided, but could really use the room in the garage (and some cash, too) for other projects. This strong-running Buick was our Tour / Driver for a dozen years, and was then carefully, and lovingly restored between August 2006 and May, 2011- turned out it was a never damaged, never rusted, never rotted great driver, and I'm the 3rd owner, having bought it in 1995 from the gentleman/collector/BCA Member who bought it in 1970.Just don't know which to keep!<!-- google_ad_section_end --> The problem is that I really like the car, and love driving it, but it is so much like our 1937 Buick Roadmaster 4-door convertible which is an HPOF-ORIGINAL..... Click on photos to enlarge(Spots in next-to-last photo are raindrops) <fieldset class="postcontent"><legend> Attached Thumbnails</legend> </fieldset> Edited July 13, 2013 by Marty Roth (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Oy! Such a problem:rolleyes:..................................Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bofusmosby Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Decisions, decisionsI wish I had your decision to make. NICE car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Work of art,Marty.A shame you probably won't get your money out but you'll make some Buick lover happier than a camel on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 ................... happier than a camel on Wednesday.Mike! Mike! Mike! What day is it?:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Oy! Such a problem:rolleyes:..................................Bob You beat me, Bob!! If twas me, the Cadillac convert would go first. Marty, you may just have to flip a coin. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gelinas (XP-300) Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I saw your Buick in Stowe, Vt. Awesome car. If it were me, I would keep both cars, regardless if they feel the same when driving.In my view the collecting of Antique Cars is the collecting of art and style. Both Buicks are different in that regard. Keep both cars, who knows what would happen to them in the hands of someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyshack Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Absolutely beautiful auto!It's like losing your best friend. Whatever you decide, make it a rewarding experience so future generations can enjoy the auto as much as you did.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest billybird Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I believe I would have to be desperate for cash to sell that car......and I don't think you are. A car like that is prestigious, elegant, and special. Unless of course you were going to buy something else prestigious, elegant, and special. But just for the cash; I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 You could raffle it off for charity. With the amount of old cars cluttering up the place this might be the easiest way to get it off your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Don't sell it. If you do, you'll end-up posting on one of those "gee, I should have kept it" threads.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bofusmosby Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I know a guy in Tampa Florida that you could just give it to. Just kidding! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke01 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Forgive my ignorance but I always thought that all U.S. cars used downdraft carburetors after 1933. When did Buick change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Marty,Tough choice.The 37 has the advantage of going topless on nice days of the many tours available.The 1934 has an advantage of qualifying for more good tours. (Nickel by VMCCA)You make the choice, we'll all support it. But, I'm partial. (I have a 35 Buick Sedan)We think we can't keep them all. Today I took our unrestored 35 ford Pickup to an antiquetractor meet and was asked to sell it. My reply was "At my estate sale". I feel the same way about our 35 Buick.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magoo Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 beautiful car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Marty,You have a legion of friends within the AACA and on this forum. Myself included. The fact that you are asking us on this forum for advice tells me you will regret selling it.Why do I say this? Well, you would have made the decision yourself if you woke up one day and said to yourself: "That's it. Tired of it. One of these has to go. Need the room for additional projects."I vote that you keep it at least for now due to the "very" obvious affection for both vehicles.Regards,Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magoo Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I love this car's upholstery and dash. I know how nicely these Buicks go down the road and this one says "Get in!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Just to set the record straight, I don't have any immediate plans to put this beauty up for sale, ....but if the right buyer came along, I guess I would have to seriously consider the option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Sell it??? What! Are you Crazy! :eek: Beautiful cars like that do not come along everyday. And you are an excellent custodian for it Marty. Wait until you can no longer enjoy it before you consider selling it. Happy Trails, Dandy Dave!PS, For a Dollar Ninty Eight you can park it in my garage and leave me the keys... Edited July 15, 2013 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bofusmosby Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I agree with Dandy Dave. If you sell it, you'll spend years regretting it, and will never be able to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Walling Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) If I had a horse that ate every day and grew older that I didn't ride, I would sell it and let someone else enjoy keeping it. But a car do doesn't eat and only gets better with age, that's a different story. When you eventually acquire 10 or so cars that you don't even see for years at a time, that is the time to sell. Edited July 15, 2013 by Roger Walling sp (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 But a car do doesn't eat and only gets better with age, that's a different story.Well, that's true, but as a good friend states, paint is only temporary, and mother nature wants the metal back. Marty's car will never be in better condition than it is at this point (and probably never have more value), so it IS an expense going forward. It needs to be in heated/cooled storage, protected from mice and other critters, run periodically to keep all the seals good, and so forth.The real question is where does he go from here with the car? It's won all the AACA awards, and if he starts driving it, the value plummets, although he just keeps adding great tour memories! And just storing it for the "pride of ownership", while a possibility, is still an expense of some kind.Marty, I'd say that, as much as you enjoy touring the cars, if you're not going to drive it, set a price and see if you can find a buyer. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, on what I believe is one of my milestone posts, 3000 or so, but you're worth spending that post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The answer is easy. Add to the garage! Then you will have all the space you need!Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bofusmosby Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The answer is easy. Add to the garage! Then you will have all the space you need!EricGood one!That reminds me of a business owner that was told by his bookkeeper that he HAD to cut expenses in order to stay in business. Well, he cut expenses allright. He fired his bookkeeper! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Down here, the problem is space. There is no room to build another garage, or to add on, and we've filled ours, my son's, and two friends', plus the trailer already. Also, I've always had driver-quality cars. Now this '34 Buick has been awarded her Senior Grand National. Even though we had always planned to drive her as we did for the dozen years before the restoration, somehow I'm more concerned with not letting her "lose the glow". The thought of road-rash, or the first chip or ding is something I'm less neurotic about with our other drivers. Maybe she belongs with someone who can either keep her as a show-car, or is not as involved in the five years of restoration. On the other hand, I know I will live to regret losing her - it took a dozen years to find a rust-free, wood-rot-free, great driving '34/'35 Buick in the first place. We've had this one longer than our 17 year old grandson.Any future custodians out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mmmmmmm. Let see. Why that there is nice enough to hot rod... Rip out the motor first and drop in a Cheby 350 with a 6 pack and a 4 speed munchy trans. Get a 9 bolt Ford Posi and then tear out the front end and weld in one of them duel coil spring ones. And then for Iceing on the cake, add some fancy chrome wheels with rotor brakes all around. Oh, and loose them there hood side so everyone can see the crome valve covers and headers.... Any one wanna buy some Buick drive train parts??? Cheep! Dahoooo. Just Foolling Marty, but this is what could happen if some rich brat with more money than brains gets a hold of it.... :mad: It has happened before. If you must, Hopefully you can find a museum that will preserve it as it is. Otherwise, go ahead and start driving it and enjoy it a little. This has been a scare tactic brought to you by, Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 It is a FANTASTIC DRIVER, but is it too nice to drive?That is probably one of the dumbest things I could think of - I love driving it - and I love riding in it -and the covered sidemountsand the matching trunk really dress it as Buick meant it to be -For the successful Businessman or young professional--but don't I get the same feeling with the '37 Roadmaster , plus the option of dropping the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No need to sell the Buick. Give it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest namvetschrysler Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 If you don't need the money Marty just send it out to me Regards from Aus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Maybe we should just leave it with friends in another part of the country, and have it available for touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G. Smits Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Marty I share your pain. I have restored three Cadillacs along with several other cars over the years and I can not tour with a car that I have restored to perfection. After winning all the AACA and CCCA awards they sit in my grarge until one day I decide this is stupid and let them go. Best solution is to sell to a friend where you can visit the car frequently. My 31 Cad V-12 went to a fellow AACA member and I still get to see it several times a year. In 92 or 93 I sold a 53 Olds 98 Conv, 66 GTO Conv, and 58 Chevy 348 Conv because I needed space. I regret those sales every day. My advice is to pick the right buyer and sell. You will enjoy the 37 touring car much more not having to worry about road rash.Bob Smits AACA#8218965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter Bird Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 You can't take it with you when you die. I like the idea of selling it to a close friend... someone whom you know will love it and look after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Hey Marty- You recently admired the '38 in my garage so let's swap spots! When you get the '38 up to the '34 level we can have two nice, similarly outfitted Roadmaster sedans to rotate between shops and drive regionally!!Just a thought - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Hey Bill - Great Idea, --- But then I would have the '37 and the '38 at home, and STILL no garage space.I'm leaning toward putting the '34 up for sale, but still know I will regret it down the road.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thanks for all of the thoughts - I guess, now that she has her AACA Senior Grand National, I'm leaning toward putting her up for sale, but still haven't pulled the trigger.Any thoughts as far as value? I know I cannot get back anywhere near the estimated $65-70K I have in her.She is a fantastic driver, and has many, many extras, but I need to reduce the stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kaycee Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Marty, Sell the BMW or a couple of the newer Cadillacs! You'll be crying for a long time if you sell either of the Buicks! kaycee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 I would certainly regret selling, but am still weighing the optionsThe 1934 Buick is relatively rare, and certainly desirable, and a fantastic driver, but then again, so is the 1937, having two somewhat similar cars creates the issue.The '34 is a 4-door sedan, full restoration to AACA Senior Grand National from an excellent original..The '37 is a 4-door convertible, a survivor and maintained as an HPOF / AACA Original... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gelinas (XP-300) Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Don't sell, you already know you'll regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 If it was me having to choose which one to sell, I would sell the 1934. You will never get the same feeling of an open car with it. With the 1937, you can put the top up if you need to be cozy and warm. You will get more road noise in the 1937, but if you want less road noise you can drive your modern car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Thanks John,I guess I'm leaning that way too, because we do love our top-down driving, and down here that is pretty much all year long.The Art-Deco style of the '34 is so impressive.....then again going topless and the style of the all-original '37, along with the Parade History of those it transported between 1937 and the early 1950s.....still haven't made up my mind, but would love to keep both....but haven't the space or the funds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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