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I've wondered about fire resistance mattering a whole lot,  unless you are going full concrete.  I think few garages other than completely concrete ones provide much protection if you have a car really burn ion your garage, because they catch everything even not really combustable stuff on fire.  All I think of are metal buildings I have seen all burnt and mangled.  Might it slow it down enough to save the structure,  depends on how close you are to the fire department,  but without a true full on fire suppression system on site, I think most of our garages will be a total loss if any cars combust while we aren't actively working in the garage and see it start happening. 

I used wood in mine as well.  I imagine before the wood ignites,  something else will be burning. some cardboard boxes on the corner or something.  Even garages in the wildfires were burning that were pretty much fire proof because the sills on the windows caught on fire.  It's all a risk we acknowledge when we build and work on cars. Goal is to prevent the fire in the first place. Not how to try to stop it when it's spreading from car to car which is most likely at a point when you need to worry about exiting first and foremost or saving what you can by getting it out though then you have to worry about the added oxygen to the fire unless the door is already open already. 

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On 1/19/2021 at 3:17 PM, MrEarl said:

Then it was finally time for some fun work. For a bit of fire safety, I wanted metal on the lower part of my interior walls so I selected and cleaned and rustified some of the better corrugated metal and pulled some of the straightest old growth pine 2x6's. Also pulled some of the 4x6 pine posts to use as faux posts to help beak up the long straight wall.   

 

 

 

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While I had pulled all the nails out of the 2x6's as I loaded them up at the chicken houses, they still had thousands of big staples that held the insulation bands so they all got pulled as was cleaning and loading them out of the storage sheds.

 

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Sprayed first with muriatic acid and scrubbed and rinsed then hit random areas with a mixture of vinegar, hydrogen peroxide and salt to give a RUSTic look.

 

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Just wondering what the Modelo Beer will do to the interior wall. Don’t remember if you have a bathroom there. Are you staining the toilet?

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4 hours ago, MrEarl said:

BTW @JohnD1956 and @Daves1940Buick56S hope y'all didn't think I was being short with you, just that I'm a bit touchy on the subject..

 

Not being in the construction trade, but having helped several work on various structures, I can see you have put a lot of thought into what to do and how you wanted it done.  It wasn't my intent to cause you further heartache.  Looking forward to the pics of how it all turns out.  It is already Buickful and I'm anxious to see the finished product. 

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On 1/21/2021 at 12:46 PM, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

 

 You're good.  Just take 5 with another beer,  sitting in the shade with Elvis at your feet.  

 

  Ben

Ben, from the tilt on that last picture, he may have had one "too many" with Elvis. 😉

 

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My workshop has 12 inch concrete block walls, prestressed concrete beams for a roof along with the obligatory concrete floor. I have been told that it would work better as a tornado shelter.  As for the fire, as auburnseeker said,

 

On 1/21/2021 at 10:09 AM, auburnseeker said:

Goal is to prevent the fire in the first place. Not how to try to stop it when it's spreading

 

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First day back at it. Washed 10 sheets of corrugated tin, first with greased lightning, second with 50/50 water/muriatic acid. After lunch, cut and installed them. Measuring for the angle cuts was fun, same slope so same difference in each cut. Climbing the ladder not so much fun. Now to rest a week. 
 

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On 4/28/2021 at 9:18 PM, MrEarl said:

Did I mention I’ve got a good helper😁

He sat on the scaffolding, called out the long and short sides, I cuttem, handed up to him and he screws them up. 
Damn good productive day, I’d say 
 


just re read this. I did not mean he “screws them up” as a connotation of doing wrong by no means. He screws them to lathing I should have said. He’s 25 and a great conscientious worker just out of Tech school and I’m so lucky to have him helping a couple days a week. 

21 hours ago, alsancle said:

Reading the thread makes me tired.

 
me too 

finished the opposite side 


 

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Why are all these posts getting automatically merged @Peter Gariepy  I didn’t want the last one merged, is there a way to prevent this. 

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49 minutes ago, MrEarl said:


just re read this. I did not mean he “screws them up” as a connotation of doing wrong by no means. He screws them to lathing I should have said. He’s 25 and a great conscientious worker just out of Tech school and I’m so lucky to have him helping a couple days a week. 

 
me too 

finished the opposite side 


 

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Why are all these posts getting automatically merged @Peter Gariepy  I didn’t want the last one merged, is there a way to prevent this. 


I hate that feature too.

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13 minutes ago, Peter Gariepy said:

 

Two posts in a row get merged by the forum software automatically.

 
 I see that, just wondering why, what benefit it has. It’s fine if you’re quoting /replying to someone in a discussion but if you want to post about a new subject matter it gets sorta convoluted, as above. But if that’s the way the software is set up, I guess we’ll just consider it another inconvenient convenience of the forum software.  Thanks 

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In the spirit of preventing another unwanted merge I’ll comment.  First, it’s so nice to see you at this again.  I’m afraid the artist side of my brain atrophied long ago but I can still envy and enjoy it.  I’m also glad that you are getting help that knows how to do something like you want it done.  Going at it alone slows things way down and has a way of turning the recreation into work.

 

Lastly, tell me about those 2x6 ceiling joists that are on 4’ centers and above the door opening.  Is that to support some elevated storage or sign/memorabilia display?

 

Many thanks for sharing it with us.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, JoelsBuicks said:

 

Lastly, tell me about those 2x6 ceiling joists that are on 4’ centers and above the door opening.

I added them to lower the ceiling in that section. Will be using Beadboard and pressed tin on it. I’ve decided to delete the multi pane window looking out of the office into this  “New for 1938 “ showroom area though. 
Thanks for the comments Joel 👍

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Straight, plumb and square is contrasted nicely by that beautiful door.  No fluorescent lights in here - it’s got to be warm.  You’ll have to find lights that will also show the ceiling.  
 

Great job on cutting that tin so square you can set it atop that baseboard and not have it crawl on you.  Looks like Elvis is putting things in the right perspective.

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Wow, you really check out the details don’t you @JoelsBuicks I appreciate that!! 
 

Another good day in the BS&S. Practically ever piece of the old growth pine has some bow in it that has to be walked in from end to end by driving a pry bar into a stud and prying down. The heart pine ones are HEAVY. And there’s a strange phenomenon that whenever my helper leaves, the boards get twice as heavy, weird eh? 

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45 minutes ago, DAVES89 said:

Lookin Good Mr Earl! Don't forget the sweeps on the bottom of the door to keep unwelcome guests out...


 

Will do Dave. This guy, ‘ol Blacky, an Eastern Black snake hangs out in and around the old Buick Barn and shed this skin the other day. 
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