Period images to relieve some of the stress

[John_Mereness]

[John_Mereness]

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history)

[jeff_a]

GWells was able to help me with the conversion of five period images from my grandfather Glenn D. Brown's photo collection. This is a re-post of about a fourth of what was removed by mistake.

 

 

"1927 Stutz 8 Blackhawk (EE DV-32)". This is what Grandpa wrote on the back of the picture, but my thinking is that 1927, Blackhawk, and DV-32 can't all apply to the same car. Photo taken about 1938.

 

 

1926 Elcar 8-81 Landau Roadster, Texas Creek, Colorado. 1933 trip from Hutchinson, Kansas, to Mesa Verde, Colorado and back. Note car tent and canopy over rumble seat; 2 little kids made this 1,350-mile trip riding back there. Not many folk out there go camping like this on a tour with their Lycoming-engined Classic Car nowadays.

 

 

1917 Stutz Model R driving across the prairie to Tucumcari, New Mexico, from Kansas. Glenn also had a Stutz Bulldog.

 

 

Circa 1924 Cole V8, 1930 photo.

 

 

1918 Velie 6 Four-Passenger Roadster. I have to admit to never having seen one of these.

 

Edited April 12, 2020 by jeff_a (see edit history)

[auburnseeker]

Although not factory photos these are from some period brochures i just got in today. 

[auburnseeker]

Here are some travel trailer ones. 

[auburnseeker]

And a few more. 

[Matt Harwood]

 

They must have found the smallest women in the world for this photo shoot!

 

[auburnseeker]

I've never had any Mercedes literature this old but figured I would share this 540 K stuff I just got. 

[auburnseeker]

Some more from another year.  

[8E45E]

9 hours ago, John_Mereness said:

Photo from mid 70's:  The relative that had the 1932 RR PI also had this 1904 Knox Truck - it was I believe a NY Sanitation vehicle and they bought it from Dave Dominion when working on the RR - I also believe it had a tiller now that you mention it. 

 

 

 

  

Here is the 1904 Knox in Reno.

 

Craig

[1937hd45]

I believe this is the same Knox before the repaint and wheel change. This catalog dates back to 1933. Bob 

[countrytravler]

The Jungle Yacht was created for and used by Italian explorer Commander Attilio Gatti and his wife, who both traveled extensively to the African Congo as a deluxe apartment “for his 1937-1940 (his 10th) and 1947 (his 11th) expeditions” and “equipped them quite lavishly.”

[countrytravler]

[countrytravler]

[countrytravler]

[Walt G]

Thanks for adding these marvelous van images! The graphics are just amazing and so much a part of the style of the era that the vehicles were built in.

I believe ALL of the lettering and artwork was done by hand not some machine enlarging then creating something to be pasted on . All of it would have been done in an enamel based

paint so that it would weather well. That paint today in an equal level is One Shot sign lettering enamel found in art stores in a wide variety of colors. It is what most pin stripers use to pin stripe cars if it is still hand painted.

[alsancle]

9 hours ago, countrytravler said:

The Jungle Yacht was created for and used by Italian explorer Commander Attilio Gatti and his wife, who both traveled extensively to the African Congo as a deluxe apartment “for his 1937-1940 (his 10th) and 1947 (his 11th) expeditions” and “equipped them quite lavishly.”

 

Am I the only one on here that calls BS that this thing was getting pulled around the Jungle?

[JimKB1MCV]

Well, define jungle.

This trip was very well publicized and had some sponsorship by Hallicrafters Radio Co. They used photos from the expedition in some of their advertising.

https://www.qsl.net/pa0abm/ghe/hallicr.htm

 

Despite the hype, I don't think they delved into 'deepest darkest Africa'. There seems to be quite a lot of info on the 'net. Some of it may be unpleasant to the PC element. Different times.

[1937hd45]

8 hours ago, alsancle said:

Am I the only one on here that calls BS that this thing was getting pulled around the Jungle?

 

Had to be real, it was covered by radio, look over there a Hippo family in the river. 

[Matt Harwood]

8 hours ago, alsancle said:

Am I the only one on here that calls BS that this thing was getting pulled around the Jungle?

 

 

How does it even turn?

[John_Mereness]

More or less a fifth wheel with air shrouding, but nevertheless why as probably far from suited for roads of the period. 

[1937hd45]

Looks like some wind tunnel work was done on the design to save fuel on the jungle runs. 

[LCK81403]

[J.H.Boland]

Ken Hindley of Union,Ontario has a beautiful 1938 International and a 1936 Curtis-Aerocar house trailer that he fully restored some years ago. It was originally owned by William Gray of Gray-Dort automobile fame. It was rescued from a collapsed barn. Google images and his web site have some great pictures of it.

[JimKB1MCV]

Heres a video of the '47 Gatti expedition, heavy IH truck content.

I can comment the roads shown here are probably at the peak of condition, I suspect after Kenyan independence the infrastructure deteriorated

to some extent.

I called at various East African ports in the early 2000s on ships bringing American surplus grain and had the chance to travel to some extent inland and the roads and bridges where they existed were somewhat primitive.

 

[edinmass]

I have owned several Pierce Arrow Travelodge Trailers. I have a restored Model B in my permanent collection.

[twin6]

[StanleyRegister]

"When we get up to about 20, you let the clutch out slow.  Make sure it's in high gear."

[Walt G]

[Walt G]

Note the license plate on the Packard photo I just posted NYC 1 , perhaps it was the Mayor's transportation?

[edinmass]

It would probably make it Jimmy Walkers car..........he also had a 1931 Pierce Series 42 touring, It recently sold after fifty years of ownership.

[LCK81403]

[Walt G]

Ed,   Mayor James Walker also bought his wife a Stutz Weyman bodied sedan that showed up for sale about 35+ years ago in the Bronx , NY. probably ordered it at the Stutz dealership that I wrote the article about that was in a recent issue of the Antique Automobile. I have a lot more period information , stories etc like that but realize West Peterson has no room for several page articles in the Antique Automobile magazine.

[1937hd45]

 

Walt is this a Cabriolet with wind up windows? The car has a great looking top, something I look for in all open cars. Bob 

[edinmass]

It’s a 1930 or 1931 factory Pierce. Series A or 41 respectively. The top is what is called “Derham Style Top” among the Pierce collectors. Taken or copied from a Derham drawing.

[1937hd45]

18 minutes ago, edinmass said:

It’s a 1930 or 1931 factory Pierce. Series A or 41 respectively. The top is what is called “Derham Style Top” among the Pierce collectors. Taken or copied from a Derham drawing.

 

 

Thanks! This is such a great thread, we get to look at great cars and further our car knowledge. Bob  

[Grimy]

1 hour ago, edinmass said:

It’s a 1930 or 1931 factory Pierce. Series A or 41 respectively. The top is what is called “Derham Style Top” among the Pierce collectors. Taken or copied from a Derham drawing.

If factory body (most likely), it MUST be a 1931, first year for the "convertible roadster" (raked windshield but roll-up windows) plus the Derham-style top.  1930 roadster (raked windshield and side curtains) was only on the Model B 134" wheelbase.  The 1930 144" wheelbase Model A had only a convertible coupe with a fixed windshield and squared off top with landau irons. 

[Grimy]

Well, DRAT!  I wanted to post some 1937 photos of a Pierce-Arrow Model A Travelodge (recognition factor for Model A is two roof vents) and the same-vintage tandem axle large Covered Wagon trailer, but I received them as .tif files which are not acceptable here.

[edinmass]

George, after looking at it closer, the  molding on the top of the door and rear rumble seat area may make this a 1930 custom........also the split bumper makes it a 30 only with the rectangular splash pan light.......thoughts? I have never seen a 31 with that treatment that I can remember, There were many more 1930 custom cars than there were in 31 and later........by huge numbers and percentages.

Edited April 13, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history)

[Grimy]

"George, after looking at it closer, the  molding on the top of the door and rear rumble seat area may make this a 1930 custom........also the split bumper makes it a 30 only with the rectangular splash pan light.......thoughts?"

 

The 2-bar bumper means it's a Model 42 (or 1930), the 1931 41 had a wide single bar.  Note the curve of the body behind the top leading into the rumble seat area--that remained for '32 and '33, definitely not on the 1930s.  The rectangular courtesy light was used on 1930 A-only and on 1931 41s and 42s.  I think the 2-toning on the door is leading you/us astray--only the molding itself (about 2") is usually the secondary/fender color and the upper inch or so is the body color on my 1930 B roadster.

Edited April 13, 2020 by Grimy
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