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  1. I wonder if twin6's photo could be a 34A Tourist? It has the rear door cutout for the fender, the 5-bolt front hub, and the double-oval rear window in the top.
  2. Here's another picture of the same car, taken in Bend on May 2, 1959, in the deferred Oregon Centennial parade. The newspaper reporting says "From Eugene came an old-time car." Does anyone know who in Eugene might have owned this Underslung in 1959?
  3. This photo has been misidentified on eBay and elsewhere as showing a scene in Mineral Wells, TX. Probably due to misinformed Google searching - there was an "Upham Gas Co" in Mineral Wells, but it didn't have that name until 1950. This shot was taken on the west side of Public Square in Mount Vernon, OH.
  4. I've been curious, too, about that car's visual effect. I pulled together some factory photos and scaled them so that the tires all showed as the same size. They were 36" as specified by the factory. Then I aligned the images on whichever hub was on the right side of the photo. You can clearly see the change in the wheelbase from 106" to 110" from the first to the second-generation roadster. Then I added the red roadster, which shows up perfectly with the longer wheelbase. Online photos show that the car is wearing 41" tires. I scaled its photo appropriately, and it falls rig
  5. Wow, what a great piece of work that was.
  6. Wow, thanks a million, these are incredible! No wonder Walt Seeley almost had a heart attack. It's hard to imagine that anyone will ever see a sight like this again. Do you have any idea if there are any photos of the bones that he started with to restore the red roadster?
  7. That as-found photo is spectacular!
  8. Here are 3 early roadsters - 1. Lindley Bothwell, Cameron Peck, John Wallerich, Richie Clyne, Sam Mann, 2020 owner 2. F C Deemer, F C Deemer Jr, Dick Teague, W K Haines, Van Horneff, 2014 owner, 2020 owner 3. F C Deemer, Alex Deemer, 2020 owner I don't know the fourth one.
  9. There are 3 early roadsters. This one was identified with Cameron Peck as early as 1949. (See https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1908-american-underslung-50-hp-roadster/ ) Two more were in the Deemer family from new until recently. The Deemer roadsters, in their modern restorations, are red and green.
  10. The wheelbase of that car seems very short - it would be interesting to measure it and compare to published data on the early Underslungs. Of course if you really want short, there's this -
  11. Thanks A. J.! There's an image like this on the Detroit Public Library, but your scan is better. :-)
  12. It's Maine 1919. There's a 1914 book online, but the numbers don't go as low as 717. The car is covered with snow, has no tires, and is inside a building, with other non-snowcovered vehicles. Just rolled in after acquiring?
  13. Walt Seeley's 1972 list had B. Johnson owning the car, and that guy was looking for one in 1953. Maybe he's the one who bought it from Rod. It looks like the museum got it early in 1982. Here's a clipping from the March 10, 1982 Anderson Indiana Daily Bulletin.
  14. Wow, that's a fabulous picture, thanks. I think "here it is now", or at least as of 4 years ago - the Indy Museum. Are there any notes on who owned it when Rod took the photo?
  15. Thhe Lloyd Partridge car in the 1949 list is #5195, still in Illinois as far as I know. The Marquardt car is #24652, also still in Illinois. The rest I haven't yet been able to link to present-day cars. Casey Creek is a long way from where the car was in Iowa in 1993. Stayton could still have owned it in '72 - unfortunately it's still unkown how it made its way to Iowa. It would be nice to at least find a newpaper ad for an estate sale. 🙂
  16. jschoenly is the man with the real answers, but here are my opinions. The boiler doesn't look abused. I'm not sure it has been hydro'd, but I wouldn't replace it on general principles - I'd get some pressure in it, cold or hot, and check for leaks. If there are some but they aren't bad, they will probably respond well to some swedging. Papers with the car indicate that it was running in 1993, and not fired since then. There'd probably be a lot of junk come out of the blowdowns when it's fired up, but just sitting doesn't necessarily ruin a boiler. If the small burne
  17. The Colonial Theater photo shows the car used in the Dolly Dimples promotion - the sign hanging below the running board is the giveaway. The promotion traveled the country, and it operated in Salt Lake City from October 19 through November 6 of 1909. "Dolly" tended to have a car at her disposal in the various cities, and in Salt Lake it was the Traveler. The promoters started up again in Ogden on November 12, only this time there was some hint of fraud. When the they tried to start up the next one in Los Angeles in December, they were arrested, but were finally acquitted the following year
  18. I believe that the piston valve is supposed to be a little more efficient with steam. It also doesn't have the heavy sliding metal contact that the slide valves have, which is supposed to rob a little less power. In the Marshall Collection, we have a 735 with a piston valve block, a different design that Nergaard's. It's hard to say whether or not there's any performance difference. There is at least one drawback, though, in the way that car drives. Since piston valves can't lift to let any condensate pass, there have to be spring-loaded relief valves for that purpose. In this
  19. The condensing cars are heavy, and closed cars are even heavier. But this car has an oversized boiler, which should make it easy to fit an oversized burner. As in any powered vehicle, the amount of fuel you can effectively burn is a big determinant of performance. Power-to-weight ratio really jumps out at you in a light little Stanley EX, but a big fire will make any Stanley peppy. A nice fresh Baker burner from Bill Barnes, and all the stored energy capacity in the 26" boiler, should make this car a nice ride. And sedans don't have to be slugs, if they are in fine working orde
  20. I'm in the process of researching the history of this car. I have a newspaper article on it from 1946 when owned by Robert D Stayton (It looked pretty much the same as it does now), and it was sold by Bernard Cox in Iowa in 1993. I'd really appreciate it if anyone has any clues about that 47-year gap.
  21. In honor of the northeast snowstorm that I'm still digging out of in eastern PA - this great 1911 scene, available on the Detroit Public Library's website. A terrific source for period American photos. I can't imagine they got out of that without help, and it didn't seem like a situation to crow about. But I just discovered that the American people managed to use it for PR. "Any other car would have turned over!"
  22. Here's a neat story of a fast ride in an American in 1909 - with the designer of the Underslung at the wheel. When Randall says "we," he's talking about himself and the 2 other passengers in the car - presumably one in the tonneau with him and the other in front. 66 on what may have been an unpaved road, with 4 people on board, seems like "going some."
  23. If you squint at the lower left-hand corner, you can see the dealership name that matches the banner.
  24. Boxer and amateur race driver Stanley Ketchel. This is the first of his two Americans, an '07 Roadster or an '08 40 Roadster. Note the short cowl, round-cornered seats, small brake drum, and non-bossed rear wheel spokes. 1907 Roadster
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