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My participation in antique car hobby began in the fifties. I have dash plaques from events I attended in 1958, riding in my parents' Hupmobile. My earliest car-hobby memories began when my dad and some family friends made a little gas-powered car from lawnmower parts. I drove it among a line of antique cars in a St Patrick's Day parade in Middletown, Ohio in 1957. The car was well built, and I drove it around the my grandparents' place for several years. My mom painted it and added details. There are lots of stories from that little car, and the special rocket that I towed behind it. 

 

ANYWAY, I remember the old blue Dodge pickup truck that my grandpa owned, which is shown in the background of this photo. That old truck hauled me and my cousins all over my grandparents' property, and into town and back. I loved riding in the bed of that thing. I ASSUME it's from about 1939 to 1941, but I note that it seems to have a soft roof in the photo. Any responses will be much appreciated. 

B & W pic Bill n Pat Dodge truck too Lo Rez.jpg

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4 hours ago, tom_in_nh said:

Tell us more about that "special rocket".

Love the car and truck, by the way.

Tom

 

LOL. Well, here goes. The year was 1957, and the Soviets had just launched the Sputnik satellite, which some of you may be old enough to remember. There was a lot of concern and apprehension in our country at that time. My dad was a sheet metal worker, and he built the body for the car, and a "missle," which he mounted in a wagon, painted green to match my "Shamrock Special" car. Then Mom lettered a sign reading "Middletown's Sputnik" for each side of the car. When I slowly towed past the crowds along the street, people laughed and howled and applauded. 

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Following is a photo of me driving the car in the parade that day. I was only three, so my young father was worried that I might have some kind of accident. He reminded me again and again to maintain the exact same distance between me and the brass-era touring car ahead of me...stopping when it stopped, and resuming whenever it moved again. Of course, he walked the entire parade route keeping pace with me along the sidewalk, just in case. That's him in this photo. 

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The 39 Dodge pickup was changed from the 38 to this basic styling. Plymouth also had a pickup that was a near twin. The head lights were still bulb under glass in 39 mounted in the valley between the fender and the hood. 40 trucks had sealed beam head lights, still in the valley. In 41 the head lights were put up on the crown and the center grille trim was changed slightly. This form was brought back after the war for 46 and 47. This truck could be any year from 41-47. The truck shown was labeled as a 41

 

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Thanks so much, Dave Mellor and each of you. :)

 

I rode all over the place in the bed of this truck, and sometimes rode in the cab when we went to town. But I was too young to appreciate any details. 

 

Grandpa tinkered around the house, doing lots of gardening and some woodwork. But he was not much of an automotive-type mechanic. So whatever was done to this old truck happened before he got it, I'm sure. I'll have to look through old boxes of photos, and see if I can find more photos of the old truck. You guys have me wondering now! 

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Dodge offered a canopy express truck that had a soft top from cab to over the box in those years.  Around my area they were also known as huckster trucks as they were used by door to door fruit and vegetable vendors.  The truck in the photo might have been one of these that was later converted to a pickup body.

 

Terry

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Wow, thanks to everyone for your help so far. Now I am fascinated with finding out more about Grandpa's old pickup. I may have other old photos packed away in boxes, although it will always only be an incidental background subject. No one ever purposely photographed the truck itself, as far as I can recall. 

 

I am very grateful for everyone's help, and now I can FINALLY tell the difference between 39-49 and 41-47 Dodge trucks. Thanks, guys! 

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Lump,

I think car guys lives run in parallel universes.  Other can probably attest to that too.

My first car came on my 3rd or 4th birthday (Hard to remember that far back for specifics).  We lived in Minneapolis MN and I got the car pictured below in October, must have been the 3rd Birthday in 1948.  Then by the summer of 1950 we had moved

to Princeton NJ where my Grandfather built a "Jeep" body for my first car. Not flathead powered, but pedaled by 2 boy power.

A few years later my brother and I helped my father build a big yard car with a 5 HP Tecumseh engine that weighed so much it wasn't fast enough for us, but Dad was happy.  The 1950 Ford steering wheel from that car ended up on my 26" English bike by age 10.  My Dad taught me to drive a real car on my 12th Birthday and I've been hooked ever since.FirstCar.jpgBike.jpg

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18 hours ago, 30 Hupp said:

Maybe made into a pickup from a station wagon?

 

Iowa dale

 

The station wagon used the car front end, which was completely different from the truck front end.  That's definitely a truck, not a cut up station wagon.

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1 hour ago, Paul Dobbin said:

Lump,

I think car guys lives run in parallel universes.  Other can probably attest to that too.

My first car came on my 3rd or 4th birthday (Hard to remember that far back for specifics).  We lived in Minneapolis MN and I got the car pictured below in October, must have been the 3rd Birthday in 1948.  Then by the summer of 1950 we had moved

to Princeton NJ where my Grandfather built a "Jeep" body for my first car. Not flathead powered, but pedaled by 2 boy power.

A few years later my brother and I helped my father build a big yard car with a 5 HP Tecumseh engine that weighed so much it wasn't fast enough for us, but Dad was happy.  The 1950 Ford steering wheel from that car ended up on my 26" English bike by age 10.  My Dad taught me to drive a real car on my 12th Birthday and I've been hooked ever since.FirstCar.jpgBike.jpg

 

 

Wow, Paul, you must be correct. My little brother and I spent much of our youth "driving" around in one vehicle or another. I was hooked on cars many years before I could think of driving one. LOL

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Jack M...maybe you're right. A vinyl top on a rough old farm truck like this seems unlikely, but it certainly looks like it could be right. On further reflection after studying the tiny original photo at home, the roof seems to be dented, or at least a little too "flat" on top center. Maybe it got a vinyl roof applied to hide roof damage...or maybe even to cover holes to prevent leaks? 

 

I note that the stainless steel grille trim is definitely damaged, looking at the photo under magnifying glass, and see dents in both driver's side fenders. This was an old farm truck when the photo was taken, not a "collector's item..." at least not yet! 

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1 hour ago, tomcarnut said:

So JIm, are you going to drive the Shamrock special on a SOC tour this year?

 

Tom Muth

 

Tom, 

LOL, well the old Shamrock was given to another family in our old car club back in the day, when I got too large to sit behind the wheel. (About age 12, maybe?). I'm pretty sure I could NEVER fit into something like that now. I'll have to hope that our old 23 Hupmobile will satisfy requirements for SOC tours. 

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28 minutes ago, keiser31 said:

Maybe the Dodge started out as one of these....

Picture 22922.jpg

 

We may have a winner here.  If you zoom in on the OP's photo, the pillars behind the door appear to be wide, like the ones on this canopy express.  Good call!

 

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That's a good ID on that truck. I'm going to go way out on a limb and speculate that the back fenders don't look Dodge and may be, from the curves of the fender and the wheel opening, International circa 1953 or so.

 

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3 hours ago, keiser31 said:

Maybe the Dodge started out as one of these....

Picture 22922.jpg

 

 

WOW! Now I've just GOT to dig around and try to find more photos of that old truck. How interesting this has proven to be. You guys are AWESOME. Thanks! 

 

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This has been great fun for me, and I want to thank you all again for helping me to learn more about the old truck from my childhood. 

 

I finally found another photo, and this one is a different view, plus full color. However, it was shot from a long distance away, and the truck is partially blocked by the first car I remember my parents owning...a 1955 Chevy Bel Air 4 door sedan. 

 

Does this photo help at all? Are there any more clues for us here? 

Dodge truck & 55 Chevy color.jpg

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I know this photo won't help ID the Dodge truck, since all we can see is part of the grille and a homemade bumper. But this photos fits the story line, right? 

 

Thanks again, car-hobby friends! I am very grateful for your input. 

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54 minutes ago, lump said:

This has been great fun for me, and I want to thank you all again for helping me to learn more about the old truck from my childhood. 

 

I finally found another photo, and this one is a different view, plus full color. However, it was shot from a long distance away, and the truck is partially blocked by the first car I remember my parents owning...a 1955 Chevy Bel Air 4 door sedan. 

 

Does this photo help at all? Are there any more clues for us here? 

Dodge truck & 55 Chevy color.jpg

That looks like a regular pickup in this photo.

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The blue Dodge truck in the long-distance photo with the 55 Chevy is definitely the same truck as the one in my first photo. In fact, the color slide and the b&w print bear the same year dates on them. I lived with my grandparents that year, in Trenton, Ohio, and would have known if he sold the old truck I loved to ride in. Besides, Grandpa didn't build cars or paint them either. The truck was a second vehicle for him and Grandma, used very little...mostly around the "farm." In his lifetime (that I was a part of), he occasionally bought an older, cheap vehicle as a 2nd car and utility device. The odds of him having two different Dodge trucks, both blue, in the same year at the same home....highly unlikely, I think. 

 

Nevertheless, I truly enjoy everyone's input. I've been sick for several days, but I plan to keep digging out dusty old boxes of photos, looking for more images of that truck. I'll share anything I find. 

 

Thanks again. 

 

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