alsancle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: I watched the auction last night, almost as good as being there. I thought the 1750 Alfa roadster sold under market value, then read its history, provenance is everything, and there were more than a few cars that were lacking it. That yellow coupe is really nice, back to the catalog to see how it did. When something doesn’t seem right, there is usually a reason. It’s impossible to know the real value of a particular car without completely understanding of history. And you better understand that particular marque, because the auction description is not going to tell you everything. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, alsancle said: It’s impossible to know the real value of a particular car without completely understanding of history A.J. your comment says it all. It is why I started the "period Photographs" thread here and have been involved in the research, reporting , and preservation of history to share with others in the Society of Automotive Historians for over 40 years and for a few decades with the another club I once was welcome in but no longer belong to. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, George K said: What are they building? Looks like a circus wagon. Could someone please explain why a Model J needs a "parking brake" lever that obscures the view of the dashboard? . Have there been total brake failures and that three foot long lever provided enough leverage to stop things, one of those questions I've had since seeing my first J in 1961. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prewarnut Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 ...or the related question why one winds up banging their pinky ring into the dash when shifting (not that I wear one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SC38dls Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 AJ did you try to enter Ed in this event? dave s 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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George K Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, alsancle said: Don’t Bogart that joint my friend. Pass it over to me! Had a lot of back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) Best of Show IMO. UPDATE! Just did a Google search this Camaro was built and raced in New Jersey by a Policeman that works in Washington, D.C. , now you feel better, right? Upside Down Race Car - 24 Hours of Lemons - My Life at Speed Edited August 20, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 hours ago, alsancle said: When something doesn’t seem right, there is usually a reason. It’s impossible to know the real value of a particular car without completely understanding of history. And you better understand that particular marque, because the auction description is not going to tell you everything. I'd place NO value on auction descriptions. They are written to tell the potential buyer what he or she wants to hear. They only discuss the history of the car if they feel it will aid the sale and conscientiously leave out anything that might raise a red flag. And, this is not just car auctions. Virtually all auction descriptions are the same. In the case of one high-end auctioneer of antique arms I am familiar with, the fine print of their "conditions of sale" say they are only responsible for the large, bold headline...not for the description itself. READ THE FINE PRINT! Usually that headline just says what the item purports to be. So, "540K Mercedes" makes an attractive headline but beyond that they would have no responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I like the display of the far from Pebble contender cars! Real creativity at work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, edinmass said: Also, there was a bunch of post sale transactions. So many cars are changing hands. Mecum on the other hand seemed dead. The mecum sale just sold the Marmon conv for 1.1 the 4door for half million the Victoria did not sell at 450 the limo for 410 Have no idea if that is expected or low. dave s edit- the Cord and the Auburn boat tail did not sell. Edited August 20, 2022 by SC38dls (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 AACA forum party starting at 330, everyone is invited. Photos to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 So close, and yet so far. Thanks all for sharing photos and discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, edinmass said: AACA forum party starting at 330, everyone is invited. Photos to follow. I’ll take a Woodford Reserve double please, none of that Canadian stuff for me. dave s ps - again that you all for sharing your pictures and insights for those of us less fortunate souls. Edited August 20, 2022 by SC38dls (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 A.J. thanks for the photos of the "side show" of cars not on display in the "where the elite meet and greet" main show. I love the table with the award plaques as well - very cool. the gal taking the photo of the VW decorated mini van is using a camera that is about the size of a transmission in a 4 cylinder Plymouth from the 1928 to 1932 era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 hours ago, alsancle said: It is a regular Model J Chassis. Being displayed by the RM restoration shop. I am not disagreeing but it sure looks short without coachwork. I am sure that is the optical illusion the bodywork creates. I have to reiterate how much I appreciate all the photos and information shared here. I am glad you guys are having so much fun. Like everyone else here I am greatly looking forward to the photos from the show tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) Party just finished up…….about 25 people, mostly forum members. Automotive royalty and grunts all drinking, eating, drinking, and drinking for a fantastic blow out. We had to make multiple runs to the package store……I’m proud to say the booze cost equaled the food cost. Four fifths of whiskey died to our cause……one Woodford, three Crown Apple…..yes, everyone was drinking it, and about six bottles of good red. (Beer doesn’t count.) Tom ran the grill, AJ was the kitchen crew, and mostly I ate, drank, and entertained. Diverse crowd……from twenty something’s to old guys like Grimy who is in his 80’s. I’m certain you will see photos posted later……..off to bed, and on to the show field early tomorrow. Edited August 21, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history) 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Best wishes to the forum group for today's show. Looking forward to some pics of the party and today's show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1937hd45 Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Thanks Ed, Nice assortment of cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Since everybody is talking about the Duesenburg for BOS here is my nomination. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 McFarlan Class 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Thanks guy’s! Ed, would it be possible for you to bring that tricycle back with you so I could use it at Hershey? dave s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I will cross post this later in the Owen magnetic thread. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Probably the greatest Lincoln in the world. We need to think about that a little more, but fairly safe bet. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walt G Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) Love the green Lincoln but the large tan tire covers interrupt the flow of the whole styling of the car and gives a viewer a bullseye to focus on. If the tire cover was a complimentary color - another green ( medium or darker then the car color, not the same as the wheel color ) it would work so much better. The whitewall tires work well as a "base" for the car to sit on and around and the fact that the wire wheels were not plated is a big plus. Compare the flow of your eye/vision between the green open Lincoln and the town landaulet all in black with tire covers that do not interrupt the flow. Edited August 21, 2022 by Walt G (see edit history) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car crazy Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Can anyone ID this car that Ed took a picture of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, car crazy said: Can anyone ID this car that Ed took a picture of? Looks like a Bentley to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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