Steve Moskowitz

Period RACE CAR Images to Relieve some of the Stress

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Thanks to Walt Godsen who started this idea  we have been talking about adding more of these type threads.  So I will start with some period race car photos but have little time to do much else with the thread so here goes...Mr. Swanson I expect you to help!

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This is going to be good, happy to help! I'll start off with the driver I share a name with. 

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The restored car today in the INDY 500 Collection

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Little guys in action on a local dirt track

 

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Ira Vail, left with his and new MILLER 122 at the factory,finished 8th in the 1924 INDY 500. Sold to H.D. Carpenter of Philadelphia and drove for him in the 1926 INDY 500. Bob 

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The "Sugar Blues" owned by Jerry Willets a local guy, I got to repaint the cowl & tail years ago. It has had several caretakers since then and another restoration. Jerry was co owner of an INDY car that burned up in the 1941 pre race garage fire. Bob 

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Thought people would get a kick out of this picture found online but not identified as to what it shows. I believe it shows the engine components for the Maxwell  8 cylinder  Vanderbilt cup race car. That is one LONG engine!

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Here are the 1932 Studebaker Indy cars.  Chassis by Rigling and Henning, bodies by Pop Dreyer, engines/transmissions/axles/steering/brakes from Studebaker sedans.

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Cars being assembled in Studebaker shop.

 

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Cars at the Pagoda.

 

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Plans for building your own Studebaker Special from Ray Kuns book, 1935.

 

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Straight 8, 337 cubic inch engines with four carbs under test.  Output was 200 hp at 4400 rpm.

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Ok....I'll bite........what's a race car?😎

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39 minutes ago, edinmass said:

Ok....I'll bite........what's a race car?😎

 

 

This is the oldest one I've ridden in,  The Brothers built in INDY, finished second in 1916. 

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OK Ed, it comes down to this "if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer"!  :)  Join me in Mt. Equinox this year and i will help you understand what a race car is, sadly you may not learn was a race car driver is!  Tell me you do not have a picture of a pre-war race car???!!!!  Disappointed in you my friend.

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4 hours ago, hddennis said:

1906 Maxwell_8 cylinder 1.jpg

1906 Maxwell_8 cylinder 2.jpg

1906 Maxwell_12 cylinder 2.jpg

1906 Maxwell_12 cylinder 3.jpg

1906 Vanderbilt Entries The Automobile July 5 1906.png

1906 Maxwell  Vanderbilt Racer.jpg

 

Thought people would get a kick out of this picture found online but not identified as to what it shows. I believe it shows the engine components for the Maxwell  8 cylinder  Vanderbilt cup race car. That is one LONG engine!

Howard Dennis


I have two of those engines, radiators, frames...who is really good at welding old cast aluminum?  I wonder what that crankshaft would cost to reproduce?  

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40 minutes ago, gossp said:


I have two of those engines, radiators, frames...who is really good at welding old cast aluminum?  I wonder what that crankshaft would cost to reproduce?  

 

 

Well, Going the other way this is a straight eight Type 30 Bugatti engine that was cut in half for use in a Midget race car. Fronted the money for a friend back in the 1970's, so I can claim it was mine for a few days. Gas welded together between 3 & 4. Bob 

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I have heard there were a lot of drugs in the 70’s. 

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Now here's some old stuff!

When I put together a seminar for the AACA Annual Convention on the early races in France, I went through a load of great photos from various collections and on-line archives. Here are a few-

first photo shows Albert Lemaitre, winner of the 1894 Paris to Reoun race in his 3Hp Peugeot

Second photo is from the same event.  It is a Panhard et Levassor and is recognized as the first car to use a conventional steering wheel.

Third photo is of Emile Leavassor's Panhard automobile at the start of the 1895 Paris to Bordeau race.

Final photo is of the first American to participate in an automobile race in a foreign country.  George Heath drove this Panhard in the 889 mile Paris to Amsterdam race in 1898.  In 1904 he won the first American Vanderbilt Cup race.

Enjoy the history and imagine what it must have been like to race in cars like these!

Terry

 

 

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33 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

 

You have made yourself look like an idiot, how does your statement have anything to do with Vintage Race Cars? Bob 


I apologize, I misread as that a type 30 was cut down for a midget racer in the 70’s, rather than purchased then... and made a joke. Always good to see someone ready with a personal attack on the internet though. Cheers. 

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Three photos of the same car. Photo #1, 1935 Legion Ascot Speedway with George Connor, (Hunter Spl.)  Photo #2,  About 1940 Same car with John Vesco with one of his 4 Port Riley Engines in it Los Angeles  Photo #3, Same car as it is today San Diego California.
 

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1903 Pirate racing at Ormond Beach.  Also, picture of Pirate replica we built for Oldsmobile for the 100th year celebration (pictured with Winton since they had a match race back in the day).

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Good to see you on here!!  Bad thing is the Pirate is not in either of our possession right now! GRRRRRRRRR!  

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When I worked for Austin Clark back in the early 1970s he told me of a junk yard in the middle of Hicksville, NY just north of the current railroad station that was owned by a guy named Tony  ...... ( last name escapes me for the moment - this was almost 50 years ago) that Austin had gone to because the guy had Bugatti engines that he would indeed cut in half to use in midget dirt track races here on long island . Austin had a type 35 Bugatti that he had bought at the Wallace Bird estate auction and went to that yard seeking some possible spare parts.

No that junk yard is not still there as that is what Austin and I checked out in the early 1970s to see if it still was.

Steve thanks for starting this thread, I don't have to much in the way of  early pre war race car photos but will check today to see what I may have and then post here. The ones know I do have I just used in a story for an article that will be published in several months so can't use them here now .

Walt

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Here are some shots of Australia/New Zealand cars from the 1928-29 period.  Photos and captions from John Shanahan.  See also the Wikipedia entry for Francis Birtles - a man of amazing stamina!

 

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1928 ANZAC Landspeed contender.

 

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1928 ANZAC Landspeed contender.

 

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1929 Fred H. Stewart Enterprise land speed contender.

 

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1929 Fred H. Stewart land speed contender.

 

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1928 Francis Birtles in a Bean endurance run car.

 

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Type 37 Bugatti at Kurrajong Heights hillclimb.

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