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Everything posted by kfle

  1. Our garage helper is a Newfoundland named Cole. Here he is with my son in back of the Cole Aero 8.
  2. There is a lot of history here that is not really out there in the public domain. JJ Cole died in 1925 of heart disease shortly after he liquidated the company. The Cole Motor Car company was still profitable when it was liquidated in late 1924. JJ Cole Jr. started a new Cole incorporated and sold parts and service until about 1932. He retained ownership of the Cole factory building and real estate. They almost revived the Cole Motor Car company in the 1930's but decided against it for various reasons. JJ Cole Jr. passed away in the early 1950's from heart disease as well and Joe Cole to
  3. That is a 1913 Series 9 Cole and it is still around, though buried deep in a large collection so not seen in years by the public.
  4. There are only two Cole Series 10's that are known to survive today and they are both in the state of Washington. They cannot be traced to this car based on what is known by the current owners but who knows.
  5. That was a huge price for sure and probably why it wasnt purchased. There is no record of the Cole family buying this car at the time. I imagine they guy who found it was playing up the price based on trying to sell it to the Cole family thinking they would pay more with an auto with from their namesake.
  6. I was looking through my Cole history materials and I ran across this 'Barn Find' in 1941. JJ Cole Jr., son of the founder of the Cole Motor Car Company, was trying to find Cole Motor Cars that were surviving in the early 1940's. Here is a letter from someone who was searching for these cars on behalf of JJ Cole Jr. showing a find of a 1914 Cole Series 10. Included is also a picture of the Cole in the barn as well as the owner of the Cole. The third document is a follow up letter to JJ Cole Jr. with more information and a blow up of the small picture. It is really interesting
  7. It says 90s and early 2000s. So it pushes beyond the definition of the aaca guidelines but to younger people that is a ‘classic’ to them. A 2003 small Japanese drift car is an enthusiast car and the interest in the car hobby has to start somewhere. its the car culture that needs to start when your younger and typically its the taste and types of cars that change over the years. I know a 17 year old that bought an 92 Jeep and brings it to the local weekly car cruise. He has a lot of pride in that car.
  8. I thought the Millennials and Gen Z don't care about driving and the car hobby was going away? Actual data. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1129921_survey-says-millennials-and-gen-z-care-about-classic-cars-after-all "It's a common assumption that Millennials and members of Generation Z are less interested in cars than previous generations. But according to Hagerty survey results released last week, these younger drivers are more likely—not less—to want to own a classic car than their parents or grandparents. Of the 10,000 United States drivers
  9. Yesterday, I had a group of 8 Steamers on their tour stop by the workshop for a coffee stop and tour of the Cole Motor Car collection. It was a great time and a real joy for my son and I to see all of those steamers in action! A great group of people as well.
  10. Well it sold for $43,000. Just over the high end of the estimate.
  11. Here is the Roamer ad for the Victoria model. I thought that Roamer used Rubay bodies according to their ads.
  12. Taft in a 1912 Cole 30-40. For those that know the stories about Taft's weight, notice the front and rear tire 🙂
  13. A little earlier than most cars on here as I am more into pre mid twenties myself, though this is a CCCA car. Here is my 1925 Cole Brouette with a body by Willoughby. It is unrestored so these are the original colors as picked by Mrs. Cole herself.
  14. Electric cars will become more prevalent and I am well aware of that as I work in the high tech industry. Cars are one thing, but there are lots of other machines that work on gas such boats, lawn equipment, generators, etc. In fact, I would be willing to bet that the number of the engines in the categories that I just mentioned outnumber the cars in the world. Yes you can get electric lawn mowers, but what about a generator? Also, with Boats, where is the groundswell of electric boats? For example in West Michigan gas stations all over have Rec Fuel or 100% pure gas with no ethanol. It
  15. I wasn't going to get jump into this thread of the rehashed age old debate, but since you asked with your number 4 point I will give you an answer. I am in my 40's, hence under the age of 50 and I got rid of all of my newer cars to exclusively buy pre 1932 cars. I didn't grow up in a car family, had no exposure to old cars, etc. When I was about age 30 I got a Challenger SRT launch edition when it came out. Loved the speed and doing things with it. Then I moved on to a new Porsche, and then in 2016 I purchased a Maserati. Had fun hanging out with others, the speed, etc. etc.
  16. My son and his 1923 Cole at the festival last year. We sure do miss it this year!
  17. There are two originals for sale on the HCCA classifieds. https://hcca.org/classifieds.php?parts You will have to scroll down to find them. They say original but I have no info on them, just saw them the other day.
  18. There were so many car manufacturers at the time and not the best record keeping with timing so there are typically several car companies that have a similar creation at the same time. I think whole point about the door being able to be removed had to do with style. There were many people at the time who probably didnt want to have a solid door on the front.
  19. Here is the latest update on the 1920 Cole Aero 8 Tourster. After the ethanol gas that was left in the tank and vacuum tank for over 7 years did a horrible number on the fuel system, I just completed the rebuild of the vacuum tank and getting everything cleaned out. Today we reinstalled the vacuum tank, primed the engine, and then started the car. The fuel system is now working again so it was time for a test drive on the property. My son drove it around for a little bit and we noticed some new things that we need to work on: 1. The carb needs some adjustment 2. The spark
  20. Yes according to the information I have seen as well as Cole was advertising it as such, including even an ad in 1923. Here is the Cole and it actually came out in late 1909 though many considered it a '1910 model year' even though Cole didn't use model years. Also the motor age add mentioning some of their firsts. Cole was also the first auto company to use Firestone demountable rims. JJ Cole and Harvey Firestone were friends and Cole used Firestone demountable rims on their first autos and in return Harvey purchased the first 25 Cole's to infuse some capital into Cole's auto manufacturi
  21. My wife has no interest in my cars, but she loves driving her own cars that I got her around. We have come up with a 3 to 1 rule which is for every three cars I get, she wants a pink car to drive around.
  22. My 13 Cole has The tire pump in the engine compartment. It was a Taylor Noil automatic tire pump. You engage the big gear and it moves the flapper to create air. It’s all the way to the right in the pictures.
  23. Here you go George. Distinctive front end of a Cole, though wrong headlights. They were way overbuilt with the frame and components underneath. Getting turned into trucks definitely impacted the survivor rates of Coles.
  24. Ed, This is a great idea and I can't wait to see the White at Hershey. You have inspired me to bring a big V8 Cole, probably the 1920 7p touring car, to Hershey next year and Ill have it in the swap meet area for people to see and members here in the forum to dig into and go for some rides. Maybe not quite as rare as your White, but still not often seen running in person. Who knows when the last time a Cole has been at Hershey or even an AACA event! The 346.4 ci V8 engine that produces almost 85HP is also one of the bigger engines of the era. Thanks again for the ins
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