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It kept their hair from blowing around in their face. That was their only concern. They lived as if they had one opportunity.

 

Steve, can I request more information about the pictures you post? I am not as well versed as some of you guys. I love these early car pictures but struggle to understand the makes of cars, locations, and significance.

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52 minutes ago, Steve Moskowitz said:

Those helmets did a lot of good!  :)

 

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What a fantastic picture that I've never seen before. Several very famous drivers in front of as awesome a row of FIAT racers as you will ever see. Any idea of what the race was?

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1 hour ago, Steve Moskowitz said:

Those helmets did a lot of good!  :)

 

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Both Teddy Tetzlaff and Caleb Bragg are sitting on the front of Fiat S74 cars. Bragg's car is chassis #1 and survives to this day - it has been owned and driven enthusiastically by George Wingard of Oregon for many years. He visited NZ with it about 30 years ago. A very impressive car with a 12 litre overhead cam, long stroke, four cylinder engine which completely fills the engine bay. There are many photos and videos of it on the net.

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I am not sure from where, but I recognize the second car in Steve M's photo--

 

A Ballard just beat me to it!

 

--as a Fiat with the stone guard on it. A few of the names I recognize, especially "Teddy" Tetzlaff! I have seen him in photos with a stone screen a few times, and wondered why he would protect his radiator that way when he was out front so often. ---

 

Criminy! Everybody types faster than I do!

 

---he probably wanted to protect his radiator from flying debris from the cars he was coming up behind after 

lapping them!

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If I had been paying any attention I would have realized all the guys are wearing Fiat sweaters so it is undoubtedly a factory promotional picture. Interestingly, the first car appears smaller than the second car. Are they all S74 cars?

 

Steve, I understand your time restraints. Thanks for the effort!

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On 4/19/2020 at 10:58 AM, Steve Moskowitz said:

Altoona  board speedway in 1931.  1 1/4 mile track.  I hope the resolution shows the condition of the boards..yikes!  I have read stories of splinters and chunks of wood flying at the faces of the drivers and the condition of this track proves it!  Some special kind of bravery to drive back in those days.  

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I have been told that was part of the problem, but probably the real issue was oil leaking on the track causing it to be SUPER SLIPPERY.  "oil ice"

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5 hours ago, AHa said:

If I had been paying any attention I would have realized all the guys are wearing Fiat sweaters so it is undoubtedly a factory promotional picture. Interestingly, the first car appears smaller than the second car. Are they all S74 cars?

 

Steve, I understand your time restraints. Thanks for the effort!

 

Two S74s, the rest S61s I reckon.

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I was looking through a file of photos I downloaded from ebay about five years ago.

 

This one is Biagio Nazzaro who raced Indians. I haven't been able to find out anything about him. No mention of any connection to the more well-known Felice Nazzaro. He doesn't feature in the wiki lists of Italian and American motorcycle racers. I did find one link with a photo.

 

http://www.caimag.com/forum/showthread.php?10513-Racing-Photos/page2

 

 

 

 

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These three photos - from my 2015 ebay file -  are from an early Italian Grand Prix - date unknown - at a guess 1924.

 

Using Google translate the captions are - 1 -  the grandstands, 2 - the North Curve, and 3 - the machines ready to start.

 

 

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Two photos of what I presume are 1930s Mercedes-Benz and Auto-Union cars.  Dates and locations unknown.  I think #16 might be Nuvolari(?).

 

 

 

 

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Sorry about the quality of the pictures.  All apparently from 1920.  Gaston Chevrolet was in the Monroe racer(Originally a Frontenac).  Ralph DePalma was with Peter De Paolo in the Ballot.  Howard Wilcox in the Peugeot.  I believe all shots were taken at Indy.

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Here is one I discovered today in the Detroit public library archive. It was a  by product of the one eyed Garford thread.  But being a race car photo it should get a wider audience here.

Staver Chicago 30 race car in the background.

An amazing change in 60 years from cars like these below, to Uncle Buck's 1972 Indy car above !

 

Greg in Canada

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9 minutes ago, 1912Staver said:

Here is one I discovered today in the Detroit public library archive. It was a  by product of the one eyed Garford thread.  But being a race car photo it should get a wider audience here.

Staver Chicago 30 race car in the background.

An amazing change in 60 years from cars like these below, to Uncle Buck's 1972 Indy car above !

 

Greg in Canada

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Abbott-Detroit on the left?

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5 hours ago, 1912Staver said:

Here is one I discovered today in the Detroit public library archive. It was a  by product of the one eyed Garford thread.  But being a race car photo it should get a wider audience here.

Staver Chicago 30 race car in the background.

An amazing change in 60 years from cars like these below, to Uncle Buck's 1972 Indy car above !

 

Greg in Canada

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Hard for me to tell, but is that car sporting a 1911 NJ tag?

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I thought I might post this modern day picture of a period car. This is an Abbott Detroit. Does anybody know the provenance of this car? Can someone add a period photo?

 

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I stole this one from another thread. I can find no other reference or pictures of the car on the web. Can anybody shed any more light on this car?

 

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I may have identified the car's make. By comparison, it may be a 1906 era Garford. Garfords had twelve spoke wheels front and rear and individual exhaust pipes. The exhaust pipes on the model 30 were paired by twos and were closer together than the pipes exiting the hood on this car. If this is a Garford, it is a special race motor under the hood.

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A 1920s photo from New Zealand. The car on the left is a 1914 Sunbeam TT model. It was owned in that era by Bill Hamilton - later well-known for developing the jet boat.  The car was raced with some success and was later dismantled although all the bits survived and the car is now restored and is in the UK.

 

The other one is a Bugatti Brescia, owned in the 1920s by Andy Irving. I think the same car was later owned by the Roycroft family and for a while was cut down into a midget racer.

 

 

 

 

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For several years in the 1920s the New Zealand Motor Racing Championship was held at Muriwai beach near Auckland. This Cadillac was one of the cars that competed.

 

 

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I am thinking the race car in the window is a Cole 30. The other photo shows 3 signs that all are concerned with the Cole 30's racing and endurance achievements. One of the signs even states that this car was driven by Bill Endicott in a championship of some sort { very hard to read due to the reflections }.

This would seem to indicate it is a Cole.

 

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Greg,

You may be right. Both the Cole and the Garford used the same number spokes in the front and rear wheels. There was a Cole that raced in the Vanderbilt cup races. There are very few pictures found on the web and the body is different but the window lettering does indicate the car is a Cole 30. By the way, wouldn't it be nice to be able to walk down a city street and see a car like this in an elevated street store window?

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Or how about this one,

 

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Check out that radiator neck and cap. How about those guys leaning over the fence for a better view. Or the mechanicians coat blown out by the wind. I also like the way they've got the spare tire hung. I guess that's an exhaust pipe just back of the fender. How about that scarf over the drivers face. Wonder if he's practicing social distancing. Can anybody identify this chain drive wonder? Looks like a Locomobile by the front axle.

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I believe this is another picture of the 1905 Locomobile race car commissioned by Harold Thomas and built by Locomobile at a cost of $18,000. The front axle indicates it is a Locomobile car and the car wore the number 5 in the 05 Vanderbilt cup race. The lack of a round gas tank behind the seat indicates it is not the #16 or the #1 sister car. The man in the long trench coat may be Harold Thomas, the driver would be Joe Tracy. The gas tank was hung under the rear between the springs. Usually there is a small bustle behind the seat. Again, if I am correct, this car is usually identified as "Joe Tracy's Locomobile."

 

Vanderbilt Cup Races - Car Stories - Mercedes #5 (1904)

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I am curious if Opel tried to sell cars in the North American market in the early teens. Or were the race car efforts not tied to a larger marketing program for regular production cars. I almost never hear of a brass era Opel in North America.

Mercedes and Renault both tried the North American market and  had some degree of success. And their race cars were well regarded in North American racing.

I am probably wrong but most Opel production cars seem to be relatively small cars. A market that was quite crowded with domestic makes.

 

Greg

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