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I took a drive around the old Briarcliff course a couple of years ago. I found it to be quite scary and narrow, and it was probably not as wide in the mid thirties. As they say "When men were men".

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This picture was taken at the Lansing, Michigan assembly plant and home office.  I was not working there at the time contrary to belief.  Great pace car, a replica was made but the original is nowhere to be found.

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On 4/20/2020 at 3:48 PM, AHa said:

It kept their hair from blowing around in their face. That was their only concern. They lived as if they had one opportunity.

 

Steve, can I request more information about the pictures you post? I am not as well versed as some of you guys. I love these early car pictures but struggle to understand the makes of cars, locations, and significance.

 

On 4/20/2020 at 4:02 PM, Steve Moskowitz said:

I will try but I have struggle to have the time to add much detail!!  

 

 

 Well Steve there's a saying to the effect that A rich man buying you something means not so much, but a busy man giving you his time means everything.  Thanks for starting this great tread and also for your time in "raiding the Library files" and adding all the great and rare photos and comments.

 

Now with that said I feel I would certainly be remiss if I did not add some items of my greatest early racing interest, the early days of Buick racing. These from my computer files collected over the years and certainly no copyright infringement of any kind intended.

 

Hold onto your seats ladies and gentlemen. I'll begin with perhaps the most unmistakable Buick race car and driver ever known

 

The Buick Bug and Louis Chevrolet

 

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Louis Chevrolet and Bob Burman

 

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Louis Chevrolet at the wheel and a passenger precariously holding onto the seat of the 1910 Buick racer Louis  drove for Billy Durant's highly successful Buick factory-sponsored racing team

 

 

 

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Arthur Chevrolet and riding mechanic in Buick racer Arthur drove in the first Indianapolis 500, 1911

 

 

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  Louis again

 

 

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not a Buick but Louis with a very brave lady most familiar with speed and thrills,  who can tell who she is 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, AHa said:

Which Buick was chain driven, if I may be so bold as to ask?

 

 

One humble answer might be "the Great Marquette-Buick"  "Roadster" 

 

edit) Marquette was building the chassis for Buick for awhile I believe

 

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Bob, absolutely!  It originally was designed I believe to shoot out smoke.  I forgot the entire story as I rad it years ago and too many brain cells have been destroyed but this was the one and only car to have the large rocket on the side. 

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11 hours ago, AHa said:

Which Buick was chain driven, if I may be so bold as to ask?

 

All of the 2 cylinder Buicks from 1903 - 1910.  This includes passenger cars and the 2A truck.

 

Bonus answer, they used #80 chain.

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Let me change my question. What model Buick is this? This is not a model C, or F, or G or model 14 or model 5. I had understood that Buick used model 16 chassis for racing but I'm not aware of any chain drive model 16s. I am told one guy raced a model 43 prolifically. Is this a model 43?

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51 minutes ago, AHa said:

Let me change my question. What model Buick is this? This is not a model C, or F, or G or model 14 or model 5. I had understood that Buick used model 16 chassis for racing but I'm not aware of any chain drive model 16s. I am told one guy raced a model 43 prolifically. Is this a model 43?

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24 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

Is it a Buick?

 

 

You can see the word Buick under the front axle and here is the caption displayed underneath the original referenced photo  Arthur Chevrolet and riding mechanic in Buick racer Arthur drove in the first Indianapolis 500, 1911

 

and the Indianapolis 500 race results show Arthur not finishing the race due to mechanical problems.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_Indianapolis_500

 

if not a Buick perhaps the wrong picture was used. The driver certainly looks like Arthur Chevrolet to me though

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am finding conflicting info on the #3 Buick. Another blog I follow identifies the car as a Marquette-Buick and it having been ran in the Vanderbilt Cup race in Oct of 1910.

 

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During the 8th lap of the 22-lap race, the chain broke on the Marquette-Buick. Out of the race, Arthur collapsed in despair, finishing 27th of the 30 entries.

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If car #1 is a CASE and car #2 is a Simplex, and car #4 is a National chances are very good that this is the INDY 500 in 1911. Therefore car #3 is most likely an INTER- STATE, driven by Harry Endicott

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2 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

Is it a Buick?

 

Further searching finds this to be  "The Great Marquette-Buick" that I spoke of earlier and was driven by Arthur at Savannah as well as in the first Indianapolis 500. The Marquette-Buick 100's ran 594 ci engines with huge 6" pistons.

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If this is a Buick, and I'm not saying it ain't, then it is not a production model. To my knowledge, all of the larger size production cars used shaft drive. What are the advantages/disadvantages of shaft drive? I know most if not all earlier large displacement cars used chain drive but by 1910, most had switched to shaft drive. Why would Buick build a special chain drive racer in 1910/11?

 

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Mr Earl,

Can you post any further information concerning the Great Marquette Buick? I've seen pictures of the car before but am unfamiliar with it. Am I correct in assuming it was made by Marquette, or was it made by Buick for Marquette, or under license?

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19 minutes ago, AHa said:

Mr Earl,

Can you post any further information concerning the Great Marquette Buick? I've seen pictures of the car before but am unfamiliar with it. Am I correct in assuming it was made by Marquette, or was it made by Buick for Marquette, or under license?


This may help. 

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Apparently one had to keep a close eye on ol Billy Durant.

 

 

 

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My wife is from Savannah and with her brother still living there we visit often. On one visit we visited the Savannah Race Track museum and drove over part of the course including some winding roadway along Laroache Avenue and Isle of Hope and a long straightaway down Ferguson Ave.

 

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A couple of great books on the Savannah Races

 

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Cruisin down the race way  

 

 

 

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