Restorer32 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Were they giving cars away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Not exactly. Decent Duesenbergs still bring more than seven figures. Older restoration complicated prewar cars are much less than 5-10 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) I posted some Rolls results in the CCCA forum. Edited March 9, 2020 by alsancle (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Any opinions on the '34 Packard 12 Victoria? Sold for $280k all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Old restoration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Wow! Great looking Rolls that Ed had. I compare sale prices to restored V8 Fords and production cars of the 1960's. If I had the funds there would be a Rolls in my garage. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Carl Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 There is one consolation I treat myself to in situations like this. The winning bid was successful after the other party dropped out. If you had been bidding, the winning bidder would have hung in longer. Maybe MUCH longer. You just never know. But sure. I love closed cars. That RR sedan might have been mine if not for circumstances beyond my control. So I do know where you are coming from. Better luck in your next go 'round. - CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 What did the Ford T sell for?? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 RM did over 35 Million. There were some bargains in my opinion. A couple have head scratchers though! Wish I had a few Fiat Jollys in the garage. You could have bought a Chrysler Town & Country convertible and a matching hardtop for the price of one Fiat Jolly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md murray Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Steve Moskowitz said: A couple have head scratchers though! Ya think? ...I don't understand some of these prices for 1980's/90's Porsche/Mercedes so I'm just going to keep any and all disparaging remarks to myself. That 560 SEC that brought $390,000 must have been a "Weekend at Bernies" movie car or something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, md murray said: Ya think? ...I don't understand some of these prices for 1980's/90's Porsche/Mercedes so I'm just going to keep any and all disparaging remarks to myself. That 560 SEC that brought $390,000 must have been a "Weekend at Bernies" movie car or something. Yikes! That's more than 10 times what I'm asking for this one: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 There were bargains......if your a gambling man. One never knows until the car is home and sorted.......or does it need an engine rebuild? The market is very selective right now...........off by a year or series designation and the market fell flat, good stuff that ran well and was done right was much stronger. Several friends purchased cars, and most were happy with what they paid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Buying at auction is a bit like playing Russian Roulette. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, alsancle said: Buying at auction is a bit like playing Russian Roulette. With a bullet in every chamber........ 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Joel Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The stock market crashing I'm sure affected the bidding. Bad luck/timing for the sellers. I think that there were some bargains on no reserve cars. Many sold 20% or much more under the low estimate. The Duesenberg Murphy convertible coupe was bought cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Reminds me of attending the once huge annual Southbury, CT show a week after 9/11. Every third car in the show it seemed had a for sale sign... It passed though in a couple short months. Edited March 10, 2020 by Steve_Mack_CT (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Hemi Joel said: The stock market crashing I'm sure affected the bidding. Bad luck/timing for the sellers. I think that there were some bargains on no reserve cars. Many sold 20% or much more under the low estimate. The Duesenberg Murphy convertible coupe was bought cheap. Surprised the Stationary coupe brought more. Both nice cars, maybe color choice which we have been discussing here recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, Steve_Mack_CT said: Surprised the Stationary coupe brought more. Both nice cars, maybe color choice which we have been discussing here recently? Stationary coupe was a matching Body/Firewall/Engine/Bell car. The Murphy had an engine swap but retained its original bell housing (where the J number is). That means you need to know how to look at the crank stamp to see the blocks swap. We were arguing about this standing in front of them. I would take the Rollston because I like stuff that nobody else has. At least 30 other guys have one of those Murphy's or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Interesting and it seems each car has merit. Not sure what I might do however in this case the green is not a plus either, and painting that car is what, $50k or more? So it is a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Steve_Mack_CT said: Interesting and it seems each car has merit. Not sure what I might do however in this case the green is not a plus either, and painting that car is what, $50k or more? So it is a factor. A good paint job? More like 100k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Could some post a link to the auction catalog, I can't post free advice without seeing the cars in question. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, alsancle said: A good paint job? More like 100k. Thanks, now I know how to become debt free. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I could have, and would have bought this. It sold for less than half the low estimate https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1971-bmw-bavaria/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Here's your link Bob http://catalogue.rmsothebys.com/books/ihdt/ Edited March 10, 2020 by mike6024 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, mike6024 said: I could have, and would have bought this. It sold for less than half the low estimate https://www.goodingco.com/vehicle/1971-bmw-bavaria/ I know little about BMW but I'm gonna guess that 4 doors + automatic + RED = not a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 15 hours ago, Hemi Joel said: The stock market crashing I'm sure affected the bidding. Bad luck/timing for the sellers. I think that there were some bargains on no reserve cars. Many sold 20% or much more under the low estimate. The Duesenberg Murphy convertible coupe was bought cheap. Yes, and it went to a great home! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, mike6024 said: Here's your link Bob http://catalogue.rmsothebys.com/books/ihdt/ Thank you! If I was there (and had the funds) this would be in a Reliable van on its way to me. Reading the info I see it looks a lot like but NOT the one the McGowan brothers had back in the 1980's. That was a blue one that came out of Texas, who knows were that car is now? Bob Sorry, I'll try for a full size photo, this site has photo posting problems. Edited March 10, 2020 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Mike 6024, I liked the 2800 CS lot #76. Elegant and sporty cars... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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60FlatTop Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, alsancle said: I know little about BMW but I'm gonna guess that 4 doors + automatic + RED = not a lot of money. They rebadge those BMW's now. Maybe the price is coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbartlett Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 So what did the Duesenberg sell for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Ballard 35R Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Great to see the S54 BMW Z3M's do well.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) If I had to guess I would say this is close. Greg in Canada Edited March 11, 2020 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jrbartlett said: So what did the Duesenberg sell for? Rollston 1.350 from memory Murphy 1.2 all in or just a bit under. Both are great cars that I have had the pleasure of playing with, to a limited extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 This 1930 Cadillac V16 convertible sedan going for only $200K grabbed my attention. Anyone familiar with the car, or have thoughts on why it landed where it did? https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/am20/amelia-island/lots/r0102-1930-cadillac-v-16-all-weather-phaeton-by-fleetwood/851041 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Bought by a longtime friend........who is a “Cadillac “guy. It won’t be lonely........it will have many V-16 garage mates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3Studio Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 7:12 PM, md murray said: Ya think? ...I don't understand some of these prices for 1980's/90's Porsche/Mercedes so I'm just going to keep any and all disparaging remarks to myself. That 560 SEC that brought $390,000 must have been a "Weekend at Bernies" movie car or something. Agreed. That is simply an astounding amount of money. But it was an AMG from when that meant something with relatively low miles in a very good color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, edinmass said: Bought by a longtime friend........who is a “Cadillac “guy. It won’t be lonely........it will have many V-16 garage mates. Nice, although I'm not sure I favor V16 hoarding. . Seriously, though, that looks like an incredible car that was a great deal for what it is. Maybe that's just where the market is for cars that aren't fresh restorations or more sporting body styles, but still, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 While I'm at it, I loved this 1949 Delahaye 135M Cabriolet bodied by Chapron for $240K. I think of open Delahayes like that as going for a lot more: Were there authenticity issues that the auction description downplayed? https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/am20/amelia-island/lots/r0006-1949-delahaye-135m-cabriolet-by-chapron/828171 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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