trimacar Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Well, guess this is common knowledge to Model T guys, but new to me....just when I think I know everything (ha!) about old cars, something "new" comes along....... http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG87.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Wow. What a neat fix with an apparent historical connection. I really like your arrangement of the chiefs head looking at the two buffalo. Nice touch. Might want to put this under technical also Edited April 7, 2016 by Larry Schramm (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) We all know what you are referring to but they are not freeze plugs. (the authors mistake) Just one of my quirks about casting (core) plugs. But yes, a very cool idea. Edited April 7, 2016 by JACK M (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I always find the little differences in lexicon across the country interesting. Up here in Minnesota, we call them "frost plugs", rather than "freeze plugs". We also call "soda pop", "pop" instead of "soda". Which I'm given to understand is most common in other parts of the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I received a stern lecture from a server in a Ponderosa Steakhouse about 20 years ago regarding the difference in terminology between "Soda" and "Pop" in Manitowoc , WI. Never forgot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 19 minutes ago, plymouthcranbrook said: I received a stern lecture from a server in a Ponderosa Steakhouse about 20 years ago regarding the difference in terminology between "Soda" and "Pop" in Manitowoc , WI. Never forgot. Had it been me, he would not have forgotten me getting up and walking out, but not before filing a complaint with the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I guess that I should add that up here a "soda" was something that a person ordered at an ice cream parlor or soda fountain in days long past. A soda would have been made of carbonated water, ice cream and flavoring, like chocolate or strawberry, etc. So, in this part of the country the word soda continued to have that meaning even though I have no idea where I would go these days to order a soda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Freeze plugs only work with smart water. The dumb water expands in all directions when it changes state. I'm a PIA about core plugs myself. I am reminded of a time when I overhauled the generator on a 1937 Packard that was from some other car. By the time I got it back together I had been standing on my head for half an hour and drenched in sweat. Stacks of washers and spacers were between the brackets and those are narrow work spaces. I remember imagining some dust bowl mechanic being proud of his American ingenuity, being able to make anything work anywhere. He probably had a worn old leather snap coin purse with three of those nickles he kept for tips. I get uneasy seeing that kind of stuff. Bernie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMc Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 We call them Welsh plugs here in Australia, no idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencer yarrow Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Welsh plugs in a 1928 Essex are half penny in Austraila 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 6 hours ago, Hudsy Wudsy said: I always find the little differences in lexicon across the country interesting. Up here in Minnesota, we call them "frost plugs", rather than "freeze plugs". We also call "soda pop", "pop" instead of "soda". Which I'm given to understand is most common in other parts of the country In northern Pennsylvania, soda pop is "pop." A soda has ice cream with the pop--also known as an ice cream soda. In southern Pennsylvania, soda pop is "soda." I don't know what they would call an ice cream soda. Boy, we deviated from the freeze-plug topic, didn't we! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Hudsy Wudsy said: I guess that I should add that up here a "soda" was something that a person ordered at an ice cream parlor or soda fountain in days long past. A soda would have been made of carbonated water, ice cream and flavoring, like chocolate or strawberry, etc. So, in this part of the country the word soda continued to have that meaning even though I have no idea where I would go these days to order a soda. From the Carolinas to Alabama to maybe Mississippi, almost all soft drinks are called a Coke, but I understand if you get Texas way it is either an RC or Dr.Pepper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: Boy, we deviated from the freeze-plug topic, didn't we! Yeah, I've been know to hijack the heck out of a thread from time to time. Should I go on to talk about "casseroles" vs "hot dishes"? By the way, around here a glass of soda pop (I'm being inclusive, aren't I?) with ice cream in it is called a "float". I have to say, and I should have said it well before, the whole buffalo nickels for frost plugs really is very interesting, trimacar. It was a fun bit of information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 On this subject: Lincoln pennies are good plugs for the casting holes in the bottom of the 1934 Ford V8 engine block. They are located on the bottom of the block and covered by the oil pan, Use two of them (Stacked) because the plug was thicker than the single copper penny. Just another way the early Ford V8 was economical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I can remember seeing the nickels used as core plugs in crankshaft sludge traps. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edselsouth1 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I used pennies to plug/block the fuel injector holes on my VW Quantum when I ditched the Bosch set up for a Weber. A bit of red RTV and the original injector housings to hold the pennies in, and that finished up the job. Got to use what's available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I know a guy who owns a Model T roadster,25 I think. He overhauled the engine and found Argentina coins used for the freeze plugs ( I'm told the proper term is "soft" plugs).He proudly left them in there, figuring the car must have come from Argentina. I don't know the denomination of the coins but they had an Argentinian princess on them. It wasn't Evita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 12 hours ago, DavidMc said: We call them Welsh plugs here in Australia, no idea why. It took me a while to recall this, but I've known that the small plugs used in carburetor bodies to seal bore holes to be called "Welsh plugs". It's funny because I recognized the term right away, but was thrown a little because we were talking about engine blocks. Still, they are essentially the same thing, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Needing several flat washers and finding out they cost 6 cents each Dad simply drilled holes in nickles and saved a penny each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Used Nickels in T Fords over 30 years ago so it is not new to me. I call it Soda Pop just to cover all my bases. Everyone seems to understand, "Captain and Coke" no mater where in the world we go. Welsh Plug is a type of Core plug invented here in the USA. I could talk until I'm blue in the face so look here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_plug Dandy Dave! Edited April 8, 2016 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I know two old car collectors who got a few pennies and stretched them enough to rewire a car. Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Every car I have rewired made me stretch those pennies into dollars. Many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Sorry to say , these are Indian head nickels with an American Bison on the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, CarlLaFong said: Had it been me, he would not have forgotten me getting up and walking out, but not before filing a complaint with the manager I thought it was funny. Probably should have mentioned it but.... Edited April 8, 2016 by plymouthcranbrook (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 4 hours ago, plymouthcranbrook said: I thought it was funny. Probably should have mentioned it but.... Yeah, you won't find any nicer people than Wisconsinites. I'm proud to call them neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) On 4/8/2016 at 11:58 AM, 28 Chrysler said: Sorry to say , these are Indian head nickels with an American Bison on the reverse. That a new one on me, just checked eBay 31,054 Buffalo Nickels vs 3,342 Indian head, no problem with Indian Head pennies, they started in 1859. Bob Edited April 9, 2016 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 The American Bison is not a Buffalo even though most use the term. It is like calling a Land Cruiser a Jeep and one cent pieces a penny.. Penny was a British coin that was about the size of the U.S.large cents that were minted into 1857.People kept using the slang word "penny" (I have been collecting coins since 1964) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Interesting! Bison vs Buffalo: http://www.livescience.com/32115-bison-vs-buffalo-whats-the-difference.html I wonder where this thread will take us next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Quote I can't seam to find Buffalo wire wheels for my Model T Ford, maybe I'll post a Want Ad for Bison Wires. Wonder if all those people in New York know they live in a misnamed city? Bob Edited April 9, 2016 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 More recent application of an Aussie halfpenny in a '23 1st Series Packard Six Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 Well, traveled to Charlotte for a couple of days, came back and pleasantly surprised to see a lively discussion on what kind of nickel it is, what other coins work where, and soda pop! And yes, they're commonly called freeze plugs, but in reality they're just filling a casting hole, and don't really provide freeze protection. Southern thing, empty one of those sleeves of salted peanuts into a Coke bottle (take a sip first to make room!), Coke and peanuts go together well! Another Southern thing is to pour Coke over "wet" ice, so it doesn't foam and lose carbonation. You make wet ice by putting cubes in glass, filling with water, emptying the water. It takes the cold edge off! Charlotte was a good show, the wind was brutal. New layout of show field is nice in front of the speedway, but to see all the cars there's a lot of walking to do, as some are lined up around the outside of the Speedway and more inside. Show field in front had lots of empty spaces, did the cold and wind keep them away? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 On 4/8/2016 at 11:25 PM, edselsouth1 said: I used pennies to plug/block the fuel injector holes on my VW Quantum when I ditched the Bosch set up for a Weber. A bit of red RTV and the original injector housings to hold the pennies in, and that finished up the job. Got to use what's available. I don't know what metallurgical properties people need when they use pennies, but be aware: Since 1982, American pennies are no longer copper. For reasons of economy, they are made of copper-plated zinc, and have a much lower melting point. You can easily melt a modern American cent by placing it on your stove-top burner for a minute. That won't happen with copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Got me Buffaloed, or is it Bisoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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