Matt Harwood Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) I am not too keen on advertising a car being sold by my former business partner, but if any of you are like me and a '33 90-Series Buick is on your must-have list, he has what appears to be a decent one. It's a desirable club sedan in good shape and appears to be mostly original with some fluffing along the way. I don't know details. I will say that if I had not wiped myself out financially with The Car That Shall Not Be Named, I would go over to his shop and try to buy this Buick. Full Classic, extremely rare, desirable club sedan, and in the right kind of condition to buy and fix up and come out ahead later. If it's usable as-is, this is as close to a slam-dunk as you get in the pre-war car world. Don't hem and haw, don't waste time with "If only I had the room," or "My wife won't let me," or "If only I were 5 miles closer!" If you like it, I would be happy to go look at it for you; I'm local and I'm friendly with my ex-partner so he'll let me see it and drive it no problem. I can also help with shipping and logistics. My time is valuable but I'll do this free of charge for a Buick friend who genuinely wants this car. I only list it here because I'm kicking myself that I can't have it, but I would very much like one of my Buick friends to have the opportunity. The price is right at $37,900 and like I said, this is THE early '30s Buick to own and potentially a FANTASTIC car. Let me know if I can help! http://www.vintagemotorcarsusa.com/vehicles/details_new.php?id=592 Edited August 8, 2019 by Matt Harwood (see edit history) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Wow, that's a great car. I've always been a fan of the 90 Buicks. I would comment that I don't think all that interior is original, think the seats and back doors at least have been redone. Still, if it's good mechanically, you could have a ton of fun for only a quarter ton of money with that car. And I do agree, when shipping cost across country is probably 5% of purchase price, if you want it buy it..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Phillips Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Fabulous rare car. I have to agree that the upholstery and door panels do not appear to be original, nor is the carpet on the front floor. I wonder if this is the one that was owned by Sandy Jones in northern Colorado. His was all original, but had moth damage on the original upholstery, which could explain why this one has been redone inside. He passed a couple of years ago and the car was for sale by his wife. I would love to own it, but alas, it is beyond my budget unless the seller wanted to take a '32 56-S in trade. Pete Phillips, BCA #7338 Leonard, TX. Edited August 13, 2019 by Pete Phillips (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) I believe both of Sandy's cars were limousines or 7-passenger sedans, not club sedans. I should note that I have not seen this car in person and don't know anything about it beyond the fact that I wish I could have it. Edited August 13, 2019 by Matt Harwood (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Matt' I agree on the "wish I could have it" comment. As a good friend States, we make our choices, a lot of people could "choose" to own this, including us, but we make alternate decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuickBob49 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Matt, I quit the hem and haw routine five years ago when I made the decision to send the earnest money check to purchase the late David Corbin's 1939 Roadmaster 81. I've never looked back. What a companion car to my 1949 Super 51--one that I've owned since 1978. I truly have fun with both of them. We all have a limited time on Earth to enjoy these cars! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I love it. What a great full Classic for under 40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Matt is right. Both of Sandy's Buicks were series 90 limited cars. I had a chance to ride in the green on several years ago when I visited his home in Ft. Collins. I found him to be a fine gentleman in every sense of the word and we corresponded regularly. He was a treasure of information as I brought my '40 LTD out of hibernation. I know his wife was trying to sell the black one, but I have not learned of her progress. Mike in Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y-JobFan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The club sedan styling is just so formal looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 This was posted over in a Lincoln thread. Same car? The black one is a better deal, but I love the styling. I'm not a two tone guy but this works, rust and all. I like the spokes better than the artillery wheels. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Survivor-1933-Buick-91-Club-Sedan-1932-1934-Ford-Coupe-Roadster-SCTA-Push-Car/123852892709? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Compare side views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketofBolts Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The black 1933 Buick series 90 club sedan with Fisher No Draft Ventilation is one powerful super attractive vehicle. I'd switch the radiator cap with the Isadora Duncan radiator cap used on 1933 Buick cars that cost about $3 new as an accessory. Great story behind that radiator cap. On the night of September 14, 1927, in Nice, France, Duncan was a passenger in an Amilcar CGSS automobile owned by Benoît Falchetto, a French-Italian mechanic. She wore a long, flowing, hand-painted silk scarf, created by the Russian-born artist Roman Chatov, a gift from her friend Mary Desti, the mother of American film director Preston Sturges. Desti, who saw Duncan off, had asked her to wear a cape in the open-air vehicle because of the cold weather, but she would only agree to wear the scarf. As they departed, she reportedly said to Desti and some companions, "Adieu, mes amis. Je vais à la gloire!" ("Farewell, my friends. I go to glory!"); but according to the American novelist Glenway Wescott, Desti later told him that Duncan's actual parting words were, "Je vais à l'amour" ("I am off to love"). Desti considered this embarrassing, as it suggested that she and Falchetto were going to her hotel for a tryst. Her silk scarf, draped around her neck, became entangled around the open-spoked wheels and rear axle, pulling her from the open car and breaking her neck. Desti said she called out to warn Duncan about the scarf almost immediately after the car left. Desti brought Duncan to the hospital, where she was pronounced dead. The English language was much more pure and with class than today. Sadly the lexicon in modern times has suffered. When was the last time any of you readers used the word "tryst"? So much more refined and sophisticated than saying "going to her hotel to get f_ _ _ ed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 13 hours ago, BucketofBolts said: The English language was much more pure and with class than today. Yeah, but it reminded me of a guy who got his tie caught in a lathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Nice car - I would say totally new interior and quite a bit of paintwork done over time, but looks like needs new tires and probably many some solid hours of tinkering and it should prove a truly worthy car. Edited September 22, 2019 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 9/21/2019 at 8:23 AM, alsancle said: AJ I bought that one On 9/21/2019 at 8:23 AM, alsancle said: This was posted over in a Lincoln thread. Same car? The black one is a better deal, but I love the styling. I'm not a two tone guy but this works, rust and all. I like the spokes better than the artillery wheels. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Survivor-1933-Buick-91-Club-Sedan-1932-1934-Ford-Coupe-Roadster-SCTA-Push-Car/123852892709? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Good for you Dav. Whatcha going to do with it? I think it is very cool but the work needed makes me tired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Davlet said: And I was was gonna mention I actually like the two tone which is usually not my style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 hours ago, alsancle said: Good for you Dav. Whatcha going to do with it? I think it is very cool but the work needed makes me tired. Will be rebuild. but in cheaper laber place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Davlet said: Will be rebuild. but in cheaper laber place Can't be Massachusetts. What is the cost of shipping to Eastern Europe and what are the labor rates in dollars? Here is anywhere from 60-100/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I still kick myself in the arse for selling the all original and extremely solid '34 90 series Club Sedan I had years ago. But heh I needed money and the 6 grand I got for it made life a bit easier for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Restorer32 said: I still kick myself in the arse for selling the all original and extremely solid '34 90 series Club Sedan I had years ago. But heh I needed money and the 6 grand I got for it made life a bit easier for awhile. The GOOD OLD DAYS.........when 6 grand would make life easy to live for 12-18 months.........now............three weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickborn Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Matt -- In your description of this very fine Buick, you suggest that it is a good candidate "to buy and fix up and come out ahead later." But it seems in recent years that the notion of profitably speculating via auto restoration has become seriously questionable -- especially in the case of pre-war 4-door-sedans. However, you're in the biz and you oughta know, so here's a question: is a plan to "come out ahead" by investing time and money in a sedan of this vintage even remotely realistic? Thanks! ~ Charlie Manes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Well, I didn't really mean that it would be profitable, only that you could sort it and perform some modest restoration work, and those chores should pay for themselves, more or less. I think the car is desirable and while it doesn't justify a full restoration, I don't think it's at peak value, either. Detail the engine bay, make everything work properly, perhaps freshen a few chrome pieces like the grille, new tires; those are all things that would add enough value to justify doing them. That's all I meant. Ultimately you'd have one of the best-looking closed Buicks that's also a Full Classic, and arguably one of the better road cars of the period. As I said, I'd own that car today if I hadn't wasted all my savings buying a similar Full Classic club sedan that promptly cratered itself in a most expensive way. Yeah, I'd be sorting it, buffing it, and driving the hell out of that Buick next spring. Just for comparison, this car sold well into the six-figure range not too long ago. And it's brown. Heck, this carnival of a Buick brought twice the asking price of the black car I mentioned (I don't care that it was made for the Queen, it's a disaster): Edited January 22, 2020 by Matt Harwood (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickborn Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Matt -- thanks for your elaboration. Nice to know that there may be a little life left in the pre-war sedan market, although it's hard not to wonder if most of the audience for such items is now either on the wrong side of the grass or convinced that they're shortly headed that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: Well, I didn't really mean that it would be profitable, only that you could sort it and perform some modest restoration work, and those chores should pay for themselves, more or less. I think the car is desirable and while it doesn't justify a full restoration, I don't think it's at peak value, either. Detail the engine bay, make everything work properly, perhaps freshen a few chrome pieces like the grille, new tires; those are all things that would add enough value to justify doing them. That's all I meant. Ultimately you'd have one of the best-looking closed Buicks that's also a Full Classic, and arguably one of the better road cars of the period. As I said, I'd own that car today if I hadn't wasted all my savings buying a similar Full Classic club sedan that promptly cratered itself in a most expensive way. Yeah, I'd be sorting it, buffing it, and driving the hell out of that Buick next spring. Just for comparison, this car sold well into the six-figure range not too long ago. And it's brown. Heck, this carnival of a Buick brought twice the asking price of the black car I mentioned (I don't care that it was made for the Queen, it's a disaster): And that is why they serve alcohol at auctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H.Boland Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Buickborn said: Nice to know that there may be a little life left in the pre-war sedan market, although it's hard not to wonder if most of the audience for such items is now either on the wrong side of the grass or convinced that they're shortly headed that way. The 1933/34 club sedans here are surely classics and should be great drivers. As to the market for prewar sedans, they're a hard sell. I purchased my '29 McLaughlin-Buick close-coupled sedan because I always liked the look of them, not even thinking about making money (which I won't). The younger generation barely give it a second glance, but I enjoy it.For now that's what counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickborn Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 J.H. -- That is one handsome Buick! Unfortunately, I think the general appreciation for such elegant items has fallen victim to our casual, youth-dominated era. That is, it appears that the sought-after vehicles are those which seem personal and youthful as opposed to those intended for families or for making a proper arrival at the opera. Surely that disdain for maturity hasn't always been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H.Boland Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Buickborn said: for making a proper arrival at the opera. Actually,I bought it because I've always been a fan of old gangster movies,as my avatar shows ! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickborn Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Gangster movies . . . how did they get those narrow, high-profile cars to take corners so fast without capsizing? You don't suppose it had anything to do with film speed, do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Gilmore Brown Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 10:52 PM, Matt Harwood said: Well, I didn't really mean that it would be profitable, only that you could sort it and perform some modest restoration work, and those chores should pay for themselves, more or less. I think the car is desirable and while it doesn't justify a full restoration, I don't think it's at peak value, either. Detail the engine bay, make everything work properly, perhaps freshen a few chrome pieces like the grille, new tires; those are all things that would add enough value to justify doing them. That's all I meant. Ultimately you'd have one of the best-looking closed Buicks that's also a Full Classic, and arguably one of the better road cars of the period. As I said, I'd own that car today if I hadn't wasted all my savings buying a similar Full Classic club sedan that promptly cratered itself in a most expensive way. Yeah, I'd be sorting it, buffing it, and driving the hell out of that Buick next spring. Just for comparison, this car sold well into the six-figure range not too long ago. And it's brown. Heck, this carnival of a Buick brought twice the asking price of the black car I mentioned (I don't care that it was made for the Queen, it's a disaster): That red Buick is what my grandfather use to call a CIRCUS WAGON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 8:24 AM, alsancle said: Can't be Massachusetts. What is the cost of shipping to Eastern Europe and what are the labor rates in dollars? Here is anywhere from 60-100/hr. shipping cost container 3000 labor 10-15$ in hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 8:24 AM, alsancle said: Can't be Massachusetts. What is the cost of shipping to Eastern Europe and what are the labor rates in dollars? Here is anywhere from 60-100/hr. shipping cost container 3000 labor 10-15$ in hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davlet Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 if anyone have any 1933 Buick 90 or 80 series please let me know. still need 2 cars Dav Cell 414 six3O 2853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, Davlet said: if anyone have any 1933 Buick 90 or 80 series please let me know. still need 2 cars Dav Cell 414 six3O 2853 cornering the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, alsancle said: cornering the market? Nope.....cutting them up for South America where they run a vintage speedster class with the platform........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buickborn Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Is anyone besides me having trouble making any sense whatsoever of the previous half-dozen or so posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I think a couple of previous posts were deleted which loses the context of the last posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 These things are coming out of the woodwork. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Buick-90-Series/174168869532 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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