Guest KTfeich Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Two more vehicles found on my property. I'm looking for a positive id or hints on what to check to narrow the identification down. Will be posting these as for sale for parts once id is made. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) 1950 Chevrolet and 1959 Austin Cambridge. Edited September 27, 2016 by nzcarnerd (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 If I bring a battery and some gas, could I drive the Austin home to Southern California? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 You're going to offer them for sale?!?!? Seriously?!?!? I wouldn't pay 10 bucks for the pair if there was 50 bucks in the glove box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I really have no idea about them, but I figured they must have some parts someone could use? Yes, I do realize they are not of much use as they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Austin :2 hub caps, maybe a headlight ring, iffy door handles and gill. The best pars of the Chev are the bumper brackets, not high demand about $10 at a swap meat. Most stuff for this car can be bought from a catalog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily rag Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I think it is to late for the Chevy. Even a new battery will not turn that car over. You may want to consider a trailer and a smoke wrench on these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Not sure about actual interchangeability but the Austin might yield a spare cylinder block for someone's MGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skyking Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: Not sure about actual interchangeability but the Austin might yield a spare cylinder block for someone's MGA. ....and someone's Metropolitan. Looks like a 1500 motor! The air cleaner is the same as a Met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I have an ad up for the dodge fluid drive for parts, I'll add these there and if someone wants something, I'm happy to try to take it off. Otherwise I don't see a point in dragging them out of the woods - they can continue going back to nature. I'll take the parts you listed off and maybe the engine from the Austin. Is there any point flipping the Chevy right side up and trying to pull the engine/transmission? Are doors/panels in any demand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The seller should never make the decision of value for a buyer. To not offer a part for sale and throwing it away cheats the potential buyer of their right to own the item. In the end it should be the buyer's decision. Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 With no plug in the oil pan, I would not like to see what is inside. It is not a rare engine, there are many that would be easier to rebuild. The 3 speed could be pulled with some digging. If the Chev has been sitting like that since the 70s the sheet metal is to far gone. If you want to save parts - go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Wildeisen Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Every car gets to the end of the road one day. Maybe call some Art Schools, and turn them over to some students to pick apart and re-purpose some of the stuff for a Art project. And then scrap the rest, it will be crushed and sent to China, so it can be melted down and used to make some thing like a exercise bike. We will then watch the Olympics and get inspired and think I can do that to. We will see Vince selling Sham Wows and the bike on TV. We will order the bike for 7 payments of 39.95. Bike will arrive in a damaged box, Assembly directions will not be in English, three fasteners will break off putting it together. You will ride it two/three times tops. And then over a few years you will move the bike out of your way about a 100 times. Then you will decide to just throw the dam thing away, it will go to the dump, scrapped and sent to China. Melted down and turned into ball point pens. That you will buy at Stapples, and you will use the pen to sign your name on the check for your trash bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Didn't the Chicago "L" come back as the A6M ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Some cars just go out angelically with a touch of inspiration. All cars are stamped out in cookie cutter rows, all identical. The elements of nature turn each into artwork.Still lives aren't always a bowl of apples. Bernie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Were are you and what are scrap prices there? Is it worth taking them to the scrap yard? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Not worth the trouble to me - the forest has grown significantly since they've been abandoned and a lot of clearing would be required. I was thinking, perhaps foolishly, that a source of parts for an antique even in this sad shape would be appreciated. Local rumours are that in the 70s a certain person would steal a car every now and again to get a ride home and then hide it in the woods - there are lots of vehicles here, I have found 5 so far, I expect to find more, but it looks like I overestimated the need the antique car community has for parts Rookie mistake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosmo Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 hours ago, KTfeich said: 1 hour ago, AJFord54 said: Not so fast with your apology. If the right car is lying in those woods, you actually might find some very valuable parts, even in poor condition. In this case, they may not have value, but keep an eye out for the other ones - never know.... Local rumours are that in the 70s a certain person would steal a car every now and again to get a ride home and then hide it in the woods - there are lots of vehicles here, I have found 5 so far, I expect to find more, but it looks like I overestimated the need the antique car community has for parts Rookie mistake... Ditto what AJFord54 said - I found your post to be very interesting. Is this the automotive find of the year? Well, no, it isn't, but there are those of us who appreciate seeing just about any photo of an old chariot being returned to Mother Earth. Photos like these stimulate the imagination. Hope you'll find some more old relics to photograph and post on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Some more finds in the woods, Ford Frontenac, Mercury Comet and a Chevy that I'm not 100% sure about... If any parts on these are any value to someone - let me know. Pretty sure these are beyond saving but perhaps their parts can help someone with a restoration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The Frontenac parts are quite rare and probably of some value to the right person. Frontenac's were quite low production and rarely seen these days. Depending on how difficult to access you might even find someone who would buy the whole car. It won't fund your retirement but I would expect something in the range of $1000.00- $1500.00 to a Frontenac guy. The 56 Chevy is of quite a bit more interest, and even with it in worse condition is probably worth the same or even a bit more. It is probably a lot easier to sell. There are probably twenty 56 Chevy guys for every Frontenac fan. Both these cars have a lot more going for them than the Austin and the 51 Chevy. The Comet might help sell the Frontenac if it is a throw in, lots of the mechanical parts are the same and if you find someone who is interested they might well want both, the Comet on its own is probably worth little more than scrap. Greg in Canada Edited October 19, 2017 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Great pictures. Always like seeing these finds and discoveries. A lot of guys will pass these wrecks by and not give them a second thought, but there are guys out there, that may be looking for a part off one of these cars, who would give anything to get that part. The Austin Cambridge is pretty far gone, but the motor and box will fit the Morris Oxford and the Wolseley models of this era and also fit an MGA. A lot of the Lucas electrical stuff will also fit other british cars too. I remember these cars when they were new here in Zimbabwe, but very few remain today, even though we don't have serious rust problems. I would think in UK the parts could be quite desireable. It might be worth going on line to the magazine, "Classic and thoroughbred Cars" and send them an article for their section "finds and discoveries". At least you may get a home for some parts even if you don't get rich. The 50's Chev and other cars may also have salvageable parts. There will always be someone looking for parts off these cars, don't get put off by the few negative comments. Thanks for sharing your finds Viv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 These three are pretty deep in the woods and the road I assume they were driven on to get there is now a serious swamp in a couple places. The forest has also grown quite a bit over the last 50 years (one of the cars still has a 1968 plate)... so I don't think it's possible to get them out in one piece. What I was imagining is that I'd bring out parts by horse - that's pretty much the only way to get to them... (You can see our horses in the background of the picture with the Frontenac) Any specific parts I should be pulling from these? With some of those tail lights I'm not even sure how to start getting them off... Great idea on the "Classic and thoroughbred Cars" mag, thanks! English is not my first language but I can try I'm not really into this to get rich - it's more for the adventure. But while pulling the license plates off is fun, I'd love for some of their parts to help someone with a restoration too I'll throw the pictures up in a for sale ad in a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Well, I would "Thank You" for posting something like this. I have no interest in cars of that vintage (I prefer model Ts, nickel age, and horseless carriages). But I would think a lot of people should appreciate the opportunity to salvage a few rare bits from sinking into a swamp. I know there are a lot of people putting a lot of time and money into many cars of the '50s and '60s. And I know a lot of that trim work can be difficult to find. No, you won't fund your retirement, nor the kid's education off any of that stuff., But any effort to complete and preserve desirable collector cars (even of those vintages) should be a good thing. One major caution. Ownership. It is not worth a theft charge to save a tail-lamp, for almost anything. There are a lot of places where bits and pieces are good for the grabbing. But there are other places that are not. Know where you stand. I know where there is an Auburn I would love to haul out. But it is technically in a Federal park. And I ain't gonna touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The '56 Chev is the one that struck me too. There is a lot of what appears to be good sheet metal on it, many decent dash parts and, miraculously, the steering wheel and column look good. Add the glass to the mix and there seems to be quite a bit of salvageable car there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) With regards to the Frontenac I wouldn't take parts off it except perhaps the grill. Advertise that you have Frontenac parts and see what parts people are interested in . If at all possible let the buyer remove the parts . Most of the special trim parts are quite delicate and easily damaged if removed the wrong way. Someone who owns one of these cars probably knows the best way to remove without damage. Frontenac's survivors are few and far between so if you find the right person they will probably be quite interested in your parts. Frontenac was a one year only car; 1960 , and only about 9500 were produced. Ford of Canada only, although a few have found their way in to the U.S.A. Greg in Canada Edited October 20, 2017 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks Greg! I guess the fact that I found a Frontenac really shows that I'm in Canada :) If there happens to be a buyer who can ride horses well enough to ford a beaver pond, they are welcome to come along ;) Beavers were busy the last 50 years - the area became much swampier since the time these were driven there and dumped and there is a spot where the road is now underwater... I guess snowmobiling there in winter may be an option. We'll see. I posted these in the Parts section now. Thanks again to everyone for their help! Edited October 20, 2017 by KTfeich (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intimeold Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Don't wait too long pull the 1st Chevy out of the dirt and leaves; you won't have any steel left for scrap. Maybe just leave it there, as a last resting place; it may have had a hard life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KTfeich Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 So, me again Another husk for identification, nothing to salvage, just curious. And I don't live in a junk yard, honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Wow, that old phaeton is some seriously COOL yard art. I love it! Honestly, I wish it were in the woods behind my cabin. I would plan spring flowers, etc, around it, and photograph it every season. Would make great holiday cards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Many parts that are interesting to many folks. However, they often have low value; making it hardly worth the time and effort to struggle to take them off. 1955 and 1956 Chevy's used 15 inch wheels which had "nubs" around the outer edge for holding hubcaps in place. Early Corvettes used those exact same wheels for holding on their hubcaps. When I was younger I kept a careful eye out for those wheels in local junk yards, and dragged them home to sell at swap meets. Corvette guys would snap them up, often for $25 apiece or so, which was good money for a young guy in those days. Today I'm sure there are reproduction wheels available, but not cheap. The wheels on that Chevy are probably rusted pretty severely, but there could be a good spare in the trunk. The steering wheel has some value, as do some of the dash parts. Seat springs for 2 door models have long been in demand, but today even 4-door seats have value. There is lots of stainless trim on that car. The glass on these cars is usually de-laminated and/or fogged internally, rendering it useless. But original glass also came with date codes etched in a lower corner. So if a windshield or side glass is in near perfect condition AND is original GM equipment with the date codes, some collectors would really want it. Just about all 55-57 Chevy's rusted badly in the same places, so it is not likely that the sheet metal on this car is good enough to sell. Personally, I would love to have one of those "Frontenac" scripts just to hang on the wall, because they are so uncommon. It would be a labor of love mostly; not much in the way of payment-per-hour of your time, but many of us car freaks would love to find cars like this, and remove salvageable parts. I used to do that all the time when I was about 30 years younger. Edited October 25, 2017 by lump (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Can't wait for more photos of what's out there. Any more of the Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Bleach, I believe the Caddy photo was from someone else, who merely posted it to express appreciation of abandoned cars as an art form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 You're right Lump, they were Bernie's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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