Bill Stoneberg Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 Cleaning and painting firewall and engine compartment. With all the crap in the air, not much is getting done as we can’t breathe and grinding and sanding needs to be done. Maybe will have an update this weekend. It’s not a hurry as this is not the time I normally drive the car anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Of course it is 100 degrees outside when its time to pressure was the engine and under the hood. But no Sahara dust so breathing was easy. The car is a non runner now so there had to be some work done to get it in and out of the garage. Rob, the mechanic in this project has built a winch set up that works pretty nicely. And the second picture is the nice and clean engine compartment. Today is tape and primer day now that it is back in the AC garage. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Doesn't anyone push a car anymore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 hours ago, KongaMan said: Doesn't anyone push a car anymore? Not when you have a very steep driveway and no kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 If you'd get that other project done, you could push it back in. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick man Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 If anyone is listening and your OEM system is still tight and working but not all that cold because it never was .... A simple and ergonomic simple solution to consider is installing in series another second condenser and larger receiver/dryer pot if you have a thermal expansion valve. The condenser is easily accessible in front as is the dryer but unfortunately the evaporator is not so work with what's in front of you. That way you can keep your rebuilt stock seeds n stems compressor with so-so 134A modern coolant and at the same time increase the condensing rate since the condenser works to reduce the temperature and pressure of hot gasses coming from the refrigerant. In addition, the condenser is also responsible for moving the cooled liquid refrigerant to the receiver/dryer or accumulator. Electric pump driven A/C systems use this approach. That way one does not have to bring your barge into dry dock and recreate the wheel so to speak with a frankenstein hybrid or a complete makeover or spend deep pocket for an under dash unit .... just another of my $ 10 advice specials .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 To quote Tim Allen. “More Power” Now to build a hood scoop LOL.... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Don't forget this. There's one place you ain't getting to again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Bill Stoneberg said: To quote Tim Allen. “More Power” Now to build a hood scoop LOL.... That will help turn that ac compressor! 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 hours ago, JohnD1956 said: That will help turn that ac compressor! 😄 That's not a Rootes Type Air Conditioning Compressor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Rootes-type "air conditioner", although it usually heats it a bit as it works. If you look at how much insulation is in the modern cars and how much was in the older cars, "there's no comparison". Especially behind the headliner! Those water shields behind the door panels aren't much either. The just padding under the carpet is probably the most there is/was, back then. Which is where the Dyna-Mat type stuff or spray -on Lizzard Skin coatings can come in (on the inside rather than on the outside). Maybe some mylar-coated bubble wrap to replace the door panel water shields? 5563 and I discussed many of those things "back then", as I recall. What is in the kit for the condenser? Just curious. Thanks for keeping us posted on this situation, Bill! NTX5467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, 60FlatTop said: That's not a Rootes Type Air Conditioning Compressor? I guess it is an air conditioner Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 That is no AC compressor, it is a Rootes blower. It belongs on a LS and we were just having some fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) In my space days I had a bigger pair of those pulling that would drop the atmospheric pressure in a 20X20X40' chamber at a rate equal to the actual rate of orbital lift off. The one on my Park Ave Ultra wasn't too bad either. My non-air '60 took us out to lunch with the windows and vents wide open. 80 and low humidity, not bad. Edited July 13, 2020 by 60FlatTop (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Many of the older vehicles had great kick panel vents! Roll the front or rear windows down a bit and it looked like you had a/c on "outside air". Or, as my late aunt mentioned back in the middle '60s, when add-on a/c was popular, sometimes people would drive around with the windows up so it LOOKED like they had a/c, but might have a towel handy on the seat to wipe off the moisture on their neck. "Those were the daaayyyssss!" But we're past that now! NTX5467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, NTX5467 said: Many of the older vehicles had great kick panel vents! Roll the front or rear windows down a bit and it looked like you had a/c on "outside air". Those are the cat's meow. You get a nice breeze through the cabin with no buffeting. When we were in HS, we'd pop the covers of the vents and stick our beer in there to get it cold. A buddy of mine had a Ford that would hold a 6-pack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Quote My non-air '60 took us out to lunch with the windows and vents wide open. 80 and low humidity, not bad. My modern car had issues keeping up with our heat. Full sun and a 104 yesterday. Lower humidity then normally, but its like your oven, It still cooked you. Edited July 13, 2020 by Bill Stoneberg (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 As we work getting the engine compartment looking good and painted we ran into an issue with the wiring. There is a bulkhead plug on the firewall we needed to unplug and tape off. It did not come easily. Soaked in Wd 40 for 5 days, no luck. Tried PB Blaster and again, no luck. It turns out that somebody over the 60 years had problems with it coming apart, so they superglued the plug together !!! We found a replacement plug and proceeded to take it apart with pliers and screwdriver. Looking at other plugs under the hood, they were crispy too. Anytime we touched a wire insulation was cracking and falling off. So, the slippery slope of car repairs just got steeper as we are going to replace the underwood wiring too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 For those who don’t know the car, it is a low mileage car, but it lived in Texas it’s entire life. Under hood heat in the sun fries plastic. Even while sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 As a plastic-related part ages, the oils evaporate out of the basic plastic. Leaving it brittle and fragile. Which is why padded dashes used to crack with age, or warp. Why even plastic grilles, popular in the '70s, warp and break, too. Or the flexible bumper fillers from the '70s and later. Not much you can do, as the heat and sun load in TX and the southern USA tend to accelerate the process. With attention to detail, those older (in some cases, higher-resistance connections, as pictured) will be fresh and allow things to reliably operate for many more decades. Don't forget the bulkhead connector, on both sides. One thing leads to another . . . Thanks for the update and pictures! NTX5467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 The bulkhead connector is the connector that was superglued together. A different view of it after the pliers and screwdriver massage. Just as a point, look how filthy, corroded and nasty the actual connections look. And I wondered why I was not getting a full 12 V reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 My Riviera was car lot detailed in all black spray can when I bought it. It was cleaning the black paint off the wires that caused the frame to be slid out from under the car. I ended up removing all the harness plugs, repairing bad wires and terminals, and cleaning paint from all the wires and terminal. Here is my folding work table from the job. The green tool at the lower right of the table is invaluable for taking terminals off: Lisle tool makes it. (Advance Auto) Balkamp (NAPA) makes the pins for the plugs. And Year One has the correct cohesive tape. Every once in a while I see a by pass repair to a plug, makes me happy to know I can get the stuff to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) A nasty dusty day working on rust issues and the manifold. First the manifold, removing the flapper valve that somebody welded (Kinda) open. Went ahead and cut out the flapper as it was frozen. Next was wire wheeling rust off so we could prime. Dirty nasty work but necessary. Morempics when it is primed later on. Edited July 26, 2020 by Bill Stoneberg (see edit history) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Every time I see some of this expert rigging, I want to admit it was me. I used the super glue. I welded the flapper open. I hope you sell the car back to it’s old owner so I can undo some of YOUR work. 😘 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 I knew it was you as I would recognize your work anywhere 😂 No blame here, just pointing out what was found from prior prior owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I had a section of a Zerex antifreeze bottle used as a piece of AC duct in the 57 I just sold. That went bye bye when I pulled the top of the dash off to fix the speedo. The new owner got a kick out of it. Didn't surprise me a bit with some of the stuff I've seen on that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Is that ALL of the front end shims it needs for alignment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 It’s been a week of getting g parts in. I found an under hood harness with good plugs so we can build a new harness. LED lights for the dash so I can see the speedometer at night. Rubber Aprons for the suspension. Senders for the gauges I want to put in. Still hav cleaning and painting under the hood to do but it s coming along. Willis, the car is aligned well now. Let’s see what happens when we rebuild the drag link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Good luck. I welded the tie rod ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, buick5563 said: Good luck. I welded the tie rod ends. If it is like the way you welded the exaughst flap open, I won’t have any issues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 7:07 PM, buick5563 said: Good luck. I welded the tie rod ends. Great! And I thought I taught you everything you need to know about "rigging". Here is your next lesson: Vice Grip Garage. The first one I played was the oldest and first vid on the 1970 Caddy. As long as you are under house arrest with this covid thing, just put one of those hemorrhoid donuts on the the chair and pi$$ away a few hours! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Eaton Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 For a hood scoop........how about a mail box..........solves two problems at once. Clearance for the supercharger and it get rid of the "junk" mail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 8:14 PM, KongaMan said: Those are the cat's meow. You get a nice breeze through the cabin with no buffeting. When we were in HS, we'd pop the covers of the vents and stick our beer in there to get it cold. A buddy of mine had a Ford that would hold a 6-pack. A guy I went to high school with lost a hand in a farm accident. He would put a beer in his mechanical hand, stick it out the vent window on a nice cool night, and bring it back in a minute later nice and cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) Another weekend of rust removal, priming and painting. Now on to the engine... Edited August 3, 2020 by Bill Stoneberg (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhach Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 That's the stuff I end up doing when I start out to do an oil change. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Yep! Slippery slope strikes again. Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Ben, truer words were never spoken. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 What's this Vice Grip Garage stuff? I put a new seat bun and lower upholstery in the wife's Tahoe a week or so ago. One of the seat wires had a broken weld and kept sliding off. Cost $12 to fix. That hardened wire is tough to weld. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Bernie, you have leaches on that seat up near your head. Watch out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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