58L-Y8 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 1:31 PM, 30DodgePanel said: Although this is obviously a staged promotion image for the 1918-1919 Packard Twin-Six Landaulet, it illustrates a genteel social custom of the era, namely "taking the air". Since the horse-drawn carriage days, the upper social classes would dress in their finery, be chauffeured in their elegant carriages through the parks and parkways enjoying the pleasant weather. Of course, it was on view both to their own class and to the envy of those who weren't. When one could afford a $6,000 motorcar then, one wanted others to recognize that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Its easy to forget how long the horse held out as a mode of transportation. This image was exposed some time between 1925 & 1933. The family shown lived and worked at the Madawaska Company's Churchill Lake Depot camp in north western Maine. The only connection to the outside world was a crude road (Lacroix road) that ran 50 miles from Churchill to Lac Frontiere, Quebec. One family moved to Churchill in 1926 and stayed until 1946. After the logging operations shut down in 1936 and he village at Churchill was all but abandoned, the road to Lac Frontier was not maintained or plowed. Nevertheless they would "go out" twice a year to get supplies. Once to get supplies for the family the other to get supplies for the small collection of farm animals they relied on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 10:50 AM, Terry Harper said: Its easy to forget how long the horse held out as a mode of transportation. This image was exposed some time between 1925 & 1933. The family shown lived and worked at the Madawaska Company's Churchill Lake Depot camp in north western Maine. The only connection to the outside world was a crude road (Lacroix road) that ran 50 miles from Churchill to Lac Frontiere, Quebec. One family moved to Churchill in 1926 and stayed until 1946. After the logging operations shut down in 1936 and he village at Churchill was all but abandoned, the road to Lac Frontier was not maintained or plowed. Nevertheless they would "go out" twice a year to get supplies. Once to get supplies for the family the other to get supplies for the small collection of farm animals they relied on. I live on the property that my great grandfather bought as bare land in 1915, He was about 50 at the time. He died in 1931 and never owned car. My grandfather bought his first car - a 1917 Studebaker 6 - in the late 1920s. That was replaced sometime in the 1930s by a 1924 Studebaker Big Six. The first tractor - a little John Deere LA (which I have no photos of) - was purchased just after WW2, and that was replaced with a Ferguson TEA in 1956. The first photo is my grandfather as a young man in the 'family car' with his parents about 1918. There were two horses to do what ever was needed. I have no photos of them ploughing but I still have the Oliver orchard plough that was used. In this photo the guy driving the dray was a neighbour who worked for my great grandparents. The little girl is my aunt who was born in 1924. The boys is my uncle who passed way in March aged 100 years and 13 days. My father came along later. Coincidentally this is the cottage that was built for my grandparents in 1919 when my grandfather came home from WW1, although he arrived to late to see action, although did get to Britain in time for the big flu epidemic and was lucky to survive it. As I write this I am sitting in what is the porch in the photo - now enclosed - though the cottage has been almost doubled in size. This is the family 1917 Studebaker. The young man sitting on the hood is my uncle - the same little boy as in the photo with the horse and dray. Photo date uncertain but I think about 1936. 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: I live on the property that my great grandfather bought as bare land in 1915, He was about 50 at the time. Simply wonderful! What an absolute treasure! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Adding to the agricultural theme of late, here's an interesting combination - a 1906 Packard model S with chauffeur but no lamps, and a handsome team of oxen drawing a wagon. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Terry Harper Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) I can't recall if I posted these before so forgive me if I have. Also under the agricultural theme but still transportation (albeit very basic): Willie Gardner demonstrating his river driving skills on the Allagash River in Maine. (circa 1926) Whats remarkable about this image is that it was taken in the early spring very shortly after "ice out" In other words the water is just barely above freezing. And... to segway back to automobile related images - Richard Lennan taking a break on the Allagash Road near Cross Rock rapids on the St. John River - circa 1926 Another image of Mr. Lennen (right) The gentleman on the left is the chief fire warden - Grover Bradford. Lizzy looks like she is ready for a grand adventure. Edited December 28, 2021 by Terry Harper (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 hours ago, twin6 said: Mitchell car - circa 1907?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I had another thought about that last photo in my earlier post. I think the guy on the hood of the car might actually be my grandfather - I am not sure who the kids are - and it may have been taken on the same trip as this one which has a date of 1927 on it. It is one of those photos I should have asked my uncle about a few eyars ago before he got ill and died. Until he had a stroke at 99 his mind was still sharp, and he still had much of our family history, and a lot of local area history, at his fingertips. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Closing out 2021 with a challenge for the seasoned experts, who I'm sure will find enough clues to ID this car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 2:15 PM, twin6 said: Closing out 2021 with a challenge for the seasoned experts, who I'm sure will find enough clues to ID this car. EMF. Painted radiator shell is 1912. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK500 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Happy New Year! Carvana's auto dispensers were beaten to the punch by the "Nash Tower of Value" at the Chicago century of Progress exhibition in '33! This brochure was put out by Whiting, the company that made the rotating lift mechanism. Second page shows an aerial view of the whole exhibition, with a circle showing the tower location. King Kong was released the same year, maybe the fighter planes above the sky are just a precaution ! and, in case this all seems too retouched and partially credible, here's a link to a real photo of the Nash Tower. https://theamcforum.com/forum/nash-tower-of-value_topic75140.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK500 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Here's a '38 Packard Super 8 with long wheelbase by The Standard Carriage Works of Los Angeles, CA. The hood louvers are the tipoff that it isn't a Twelve, and I am troubled by the lack of sidemount tread covers ! Somebody got sloppy here! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Long Beach, Cal after an earthquake in March 1933. Ford Model T worse for wear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I apologize for the distortion but I had to snag it as a screen shot. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Barrett Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) On 12/25/2021 at 12:37 PM, Walt G said: Is the photo of the street scene in NY City? the license plates are a light color with dark letters/numbers which may be what NY state had at the time Just look at those magnificent street lights , wow, would I like to have one of those next to my garage and functional! Hi Walt, Here's an original NYC street light @1910-20 in front of my house and garage. The close-up shows a wreath of hummingbirds around the pole (beautiful casting work). Just thought you'd like to know that you're not the only one with good taste! LOL Bob. Can't load pics for some reason. I'll try again later. Edited January 1, 2022 by Bob Barrett No pictures. (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) eBay screenshot I thought some might enjoy. Unique solution to lack of proper tires. I suppose it was light enough to get away with. Howard Dennis Edited January 1, 2022 by hddennis (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bob Barrett said: Hi Walt, Here's an original NYC street light @1910-20 in front of my house and garage. The close-up shows a wreath of hummingbirds around the pole (beautiful casting work). Just thought you'd like to know that you're not the only one with good taste! LOL Bob. Good Taste! wow first time I heard that in about 30 years, thanks Bob ! but it is more like some of us here just appreciate the ability 80+ years ago to produce something that was just uniquely beautiful and we also revel in the fine craftsmanship - be it design, castings, signs using porcelain facades, even detailed wood work. None of that having to be done at the time to be useful, just beautiful and NONE of it done by computer generation. All of it was drawn on paper, using rules , templates, and a slide rule for faster calculations. I recall vividly 60+ years ago the Chief Engineer at the Franklin company ( Carl Doman) using his slide rule he carried around in his jacket pocket to sort a mathematical calculation out for someone when asked what he thought at one of the Franklin car club treks in Syracuse . It was the way things were done, a bit slower then current processes but a wonder to behold. Walt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Pierce Arrow from around 1920, note pre Buick portholes. Happy New Year! Bob 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Yes, the rope tire was tried and written about back in the day. I remember reading about it in several old Automotive Journal articles. I can't give a reference to the articles now because I didn't database and keep track of it. In addition to rope tires, rope drive was also a technical question that surfaced in a Automotive Journal article. I seem to remember that Hugh Dolnar wrote a reply to a person's question about rope drive being another drive component, in addition to chain drive and shaft drive types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, LCK81403 said: Yes, the rope tire was tried and written about back in the day. I remember reading about it in several old Automotive Journal articles. I can't give a reference to the articles now because I didn't database and keep track of it. In addition to rope tires, rope drive was also a technical question that surfaced in a Automotive Journal article. I seem to remember that Hugh Dolnar wrote a reply to a person's question about rope drive being another drive component, in addition to chain drive and shaft drive types. 1902 & 1908 Holsmans with rope final drive. Edited January 2, 2022 by 8E45E (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 3:35 PM, LCK81403 said: Yes, the rope tire was tried and written about back in the day. Weren't those the original tubeless tire? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Some nice cars in New Hampshire. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Coal burning Mercedes-Benz example. My 98-year-old WW Two veteran buddy saw passenger buses in Japan rigged like that and he said they could only drive real slow. Does anyone know the model and year of this Mercedes? A number of cars in France at the end of the war were rigged like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, LCK81403 said: Coal burning Mercedes-Benz example. My 98-year-old WW Two veteran buddy saw passenger buses in Japan rigged like that and he said they could only drive real slow. Does anyone know the model and year of this Mercedes? A number of cars in France at the end of the war were rigged like this. It is a 1936 260D Diesel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 hours ago, alsancle said: It is a 1936 260D Diesel. As it turns out I just finished reading this book about alternative fuel vehicles during WW2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Casper Friederich Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Professor Harald Kyrklund at Helsinki Polytechnics experimented with gas generators way before WWII Found this newsreel from 1938: https://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2006/10/05/hakapontot-bensan-korvikkeena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Sorry, but the instructions for opening the link are in Finnish, which I flunked in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, oldcarfudd said: Sorry, but the instructions for opening the link are in Finnish, which I flunked in high school. Click on the Arrow sign in the centre on the picture. BTW quite a stylish custom front end on the Fargo Truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Interesting pictures of Finnish cities, towns and countryside before WWII. I also enjoyed the following film of Charles and Anne Lindbergh being greeted upon their arrival in a floatplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Happy January 5th 2022. We are all still here so here is an image from a huge format 1929 French periodical - L'Illustration, their annual L'Automobile et le tourisme issue. The French Lincoln sales agent was very active and in 1931 and 1932 had sales literature produced in French by a French printer, spiral bound thick cover sales catalogs. Not inexpensive to do and I am sure was not handed out freely to every passing bumpkin who pressed his nose on the showroom window. There is just a wealth of material on American based automobiles that were in advertisements, stories, sales literature and auto show/salon programs over and above all the odd/obscure material that was done here in the USA as well. Yes, I love odd and obscure - can't you tell? 😉 Again, Happy New Year to all, stay healthy - hey , just think Hershey is only 7 months away !!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 A mystery photo posted on facebook with no information. The location could be Europe but I think the car is American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Another fascinating photo with no background story. Whether it is the bad guys' car after they had been arrested or what I don't know. It looks to be a 1910 or earlier big Panhard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 And now for something completely different. Apparently nearly a thousand of these LGOC B type London buses were commandeered for use in France during WW1, most as troop transports but some served in other roles. This one is a carrier pigeon loft. It looks to have been in the same spot for some time going by the grass trodden down around it. For reference this is a shot from the cover of a scale model - The car in the background is a Sunbeam 16-20 a model used in some numbers as a staff car. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 9:42 AM, twin6 said: Ok, I’ll bite. What can this be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I believe this photo dates to WW1 when gas (petrol) was not readily available in Norway, and they improvised with alternatives. The bag held what must be similar to our LP gas. In the states, during WW2, I understand some vehicles and tractors were set up to start on gasoline, then switch to kerosene which was more available when gas rationing was in effect. Ingenuity and necessity leading to viable alternatives, gotta love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 A question yet remains: what is this vehicle that looks like a wheeled dirigible? The hood / bonnet over the engine perhaps resembles French Renault? It certainly does not look like an American Gasmobile or Gas-Au-Lec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 4:42 AM, twin6 said: The basis if the truck looks to be a Denby - distinctive with the gas tank on the driver's knee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Courtesy Lincoln Hiqhway digital library for research purposes Edited January 9, 2022 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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