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That car pulls off dual rear mounted spares, usually a demerit IMHO, but a single would work as well.  I get the chrome tailpipe but it does seem a little strained to me.

 

Fantastic main lines, would have to think on it as the holy grail, but if more boxes need checking Eddie must have a helluva list...

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1 hour ago, Cadillac Fan said:

Is it the only Dietrich individual custom to win pebble beach BOS?

I would say that it has too many seats to be a Packard grail.  Interesting that the “standard” 34 individual Victoria sold for more (2022 $4.1mm vs 2018 $3.7mm). 


Look at you statement, and the numbers, and ask yourself the question again, there is a reason. 

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14 hours ago, Steve_Mack_CT said:

That car pulls off dual rear mounted spares, usually a demerit IMHO, but a single would work as well.  I get the chrome tailpipe but it does seem a little strained to me.

 

Fantastic main lines, would have to think on it as the holy grail, but if more boxes need checking Eddie must have a helluva list...

 

Demerit Steve!!!!????    For most cars if you move the sidemounts to double rear spare the price goes up a lot.    The only exception is the lower priced cars where sidemounts were an extra option, so guys accustomed to the single rear spare get worked up about side mount cars.

 

This car is fantastic.   I hate the whitewalls, of course.   But as nit, there is something just not quite right about the rear quarter,  but it shows well in the posted pictures here.   I put it on par with the standard fendered Deitrich Victoria.  Maybe a little ahead because of the double rear spare.

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I wish i was a 17 year old son of the owner of a brand new 1934 packard 12 convertible back in the day ......and when the parents went to bed on friday night i ring up my buddies and they come over and unhook the speedo then help quietly push the beast out of the garage and down the street so we don't wake up the folks........then pile in and hit the road with a bottle of bootleg cruising the backroads all night racing some art deco locomotive to the crossing and off to some roaring 30s music dance place........and back by 3 am

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Has anyone seen the photos of the car before restoration? It gives you all the answer you need to your questions.

 

Why was it for sale for so long before restoration?

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3 hours ago, CD9591 said:

I would still like to know the quality of workmanship/fit & finish on these cars if anyone has seen any original examples to make a judgement. As an aside, who was the best coachbuilder in this regard ?

 

Easy, Brewster first, Rollston & Brunn ties for number two.

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3 hours ago, arcticbuicks said:

I wish i was a 17 year old son of the owner of a brand new 1934 packard 12 convertible back in the day ......and when the parents went to bed on friday night i ring up my buddies and they come over and unhook the speedo then help quietly push the beast out of the garage and down the street so we don't wake up the folks........then pile in and hit the road with a bottle of bootleg cruising the backroads all night racing some art deco locomotive to the crossing and off to some roaring 30s music dance place........and back by 3 am

You could have been Ferris Bueller.

 

Craig

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13 hours ago, alsancle said:

 

Demerit Steve!!!!????    For most cars if you move the sidemounts to double rear spare the price goes up a lot.    The only exception is the lower priced cars where sidemounts were an extra option, so guys accustomed to the single rear spare get worked up about side mounts

AJ I prefer rear mounted spares in most cases, would just rather see it be single, but it works on this car.  Heck, I would rather have a rear mounted spare on my A.  😁

 

As for the standard victorua body style it us also fantastic IMHO.

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On 1/30/2023 at 3:35 PM, packard12man said:

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I think this is a really neat car, but that it also has an identity problem in that when I see it, I don’t know if it’s more of a LeBaron with the fenders and running boards, or a Dietrich with the body. The color combination was really nice in person.

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On 1/30/2023 at 2:30 PM, packard12man said:

Looking for opinions on what I consider to be the Holy Grail.  It's a car that you have to study in person to absorb all the details.   

 

The color is a perfect suit for the car but I often wonder if it is an authentic 34 color.

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The gorgeous color reminded me of this poor Packard:  

I had to check to make sure it wasn't the same car!!!

 

Craig

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After a short lull I'm back.  Due to Covid 19 and supply chain issues my shelves are getting a little bare.   Waiting for more stock from my suppliers. (you guys!!)  My contribution for the day.

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 A few more photos to follow

 

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Hershey 1981 - Bob Bahre at the wheel in one of his signature sweaters.   Steve Gunder (restorer) is the passenger.  Good memories of when they used to take some of the cars into the stadium for photos and a lap around the track.

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On 2/3/2023 at 9:41 AM, alsancle said:

Bob was old school and loved those whitewalls.


Bob was the original guy who really understood great cars, and built a collection of them that can never be rivaled…….ever. Also the most approachable of all the great collectors. The word Gentleman applies. 

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21 hours ago, packard12man said:

Looking for an installer with a little sleight of hand so I can sneak this accessory past the Judges at Pebble Beach.  HEHE

 

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Must have been one of the used cars Mrs. Muntz wouldn't let him give away!!

 

Craig

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Looking for an answer from some history buffs regarding the following photo.  I spent half the day today on the internet trying to answer my own question but no luck.  My question is - Was the Car of the Dome displayed at the 1934 New York auto show?  Not a great shot but it appears the 4th car from the left is a Dietrich Sport Sedan.   The wife asked me the question - Why do

you care about this stuff - and to be honest - I can't come up with a good answer!!

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47 minutes ago, packard12man said:

Looking for an answer from some history buffs regarding the following photo.  I spent half the day today on the internet trying to answer my own question but no luck.  My question is - Was the Car of the Dome displayed at the 1934 New York auto show?  Not a great shot but it appears the 4th car from the left is a Dietrich Sport Sedan.   The wife asked me the question - Why do

you care about this stuff - and to be honest - I can't come up with a good answer!!

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I agree that it is a sport sedan.  Why do you think it is the car of the dome?  The color?

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On 1/31/2023 at 10:45 AM, edinmass said:

 

Has anyone seen the photos of the car before restoration? It gives you all the answer you need to your questions.

 

Why was it for sale for so long before restoration?

Ed,  Assuming you are referring to the '34 double spare 12 Victoria, I believe it was found abandoned in a derelict state missing its passenger door,  on perhaps a military base.  West may have covered this in A.A. a while back. 

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Dave.........that's just the beginning of the story. Great car, but it was a resurrection not a restoration. Such a ca can never make "grail" status.

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1 hour ago, edinmass said:

Dave.........that's just the beginning of the story. Great car, but it was a resurrection not a restoration. Such a ca can never make "grail" status.

 

What else is there after Best of Show at Pebble?

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A couple of Deluxe 8 Conv. Victoria's that I saved off of the internet years ago.  Anyone know the whereabouts of these two cars today or where these photos were taken?

Of note - the 2nd car - headlights, door handles and rad mascot - looks like a possible European delivery!

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On 2/8/2023 at 11:28 AM, Matt Harwood said:

 

What else is there after Best of Show at Pebble?

 

I think they call it Ed's List of Holy Grail Cars, a much more competitive list than mere Pebble BOS.

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9 minutes ago, packard12man said:

A couple of Deluxe 8 Conv. Victoria's that I saved off of the internet years ago.  Anyone know the whereabouts of these two cars today or where these photos were taken?

Of note - the 2nd car - headlights, door handles and rad mascot - looks like a possible European delivery!

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That second car's mascot looks a bit like the post-war repros of a Packard Cormorant; I wonder if it's just a picture taken after the war.

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