Danpierucki Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 It also has an ignition switch from KRIT but I have talked with a guy that has restored KRIT cars and he has never seen a motor like this in a krit car. Thinking possibly a jeffrey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 A scrapper had that ! Thank goodness you saved it. Clearly pre 1920 and probably a Brass Era engine. Great find. No I don't know what it is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwatson Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Any numbers visible? The block might carry a traceable serial #. Cool find! Bet it languished in a barn or shed for who knows how long before scrapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I don't see a place for a electric starter. Cone clutch, flat belt looks more like 1910. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Jeffrey 4 cly had a mono block. Cant tell from the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, drwatson said: Any numbers visible? The block might carry a traceable serial #. Cool find! Bet it languished in a barn or shed for who knows how long before scrapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 These are the only numbers I have found on the block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, old car fan said: Jeffrey 4 cly had a mono block. Cant tell from the pictures. Yes it's a mono block, the head is cast with the is 1 piece with the jugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Does not look like a Jeffery. But I can only find a photo of a 1916. Several details wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Great Save! Welcome to the Forum. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Looking at the wood rails that the engine is on, could it have come out of a car that had a wood frame, or was it used as a powerplant for something like a saw mill? What vehicles had a wood frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Larry Schramm said: Looking at the wood rails that the engine is on, could it have come out of a car that had a wood frame, or was it used as a powerplant for something like a saw mill? What vehicles had a wood frame? Franklin, so obviously it is not a Franklin engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 It's a subframe mount engine,REO did that a lot but in this era REO had separate cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 It is an odd one. The interesting to me detail is that cylinders 1 & 2 and 3 & 4 have a narrow space between them. Most mono blocks and "cast-in-pairs" engines that era had those cylinders connected. Other than Ford's model T, in 1910, mono blocks were only used by a very few automobile manufacturers. The very apparent lack of a starter might mean that it should be about 1914 or earlier if is from a car? Although some trucks did not have starters for several more years. Overall design and construction looks like it should be between 1910 and 1914, however there are always exceptions to the rules. Quality of the casting isn't very nice, so I would expect a low production car and/or engine builder. Intake manifold looks typical for the era, however the exhaust with only three ports is unusual. That coupled with the spaces between the cylinders and early mono block style should make it easy to recognize. Provided someone has seen one up close before! Good luck! I do hope it can find someone that needs it for the right car. Too nice to not be used where it belongs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude17 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Actually I think there is a good chance that it is in fact a Krit engine circa 1912. See attached link. https://digitalcollections.detroitpubliclibrary.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A247822 Edited October 21, 2022 by Stude17 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Stude17 said: Actually I think there is a good chance that it is in fact a Krit engine circa 1912. See attached link. https://digitalcollections.detroitpubliclibrary.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A247822 It looks like you found the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Meixner Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I've had 3 KRIT projects, a, 1911,13,14 and recently bid on a 1910. None of the engines looked like the one in question. They were only manufactured from 10-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 It does have a lot of resemblance, I wish there was better pictures somewhere or a way to check the few numbers that are on it. With the mag being missing and no carburetor it will be hard to see if it will run. Best part is it does turn over and the valves move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Agree that it is not Krit. Mag is on the opposite side and intake is also reversed. To many differences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Nice find! It's from a circa 1910 Hudson. Edited October 21, 2022 by Terry Harper (see edit history) 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 Nice. Thank you for the input. Definitely looks like a match. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtech Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Good call, And a nice find on an early engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Thank you Terry, always nice to see photos to back up ID's. Hope there is a chassis out there that can be mated to this engine. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john hess Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 thank you for saving this piece of history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54Coupe Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I have a friend with a 1910 Hudson. Is this something you would like to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danpierucki Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 12:55 PM, 54Coupe said: I have a friend with a 1910 Hudson. Is this something you would like to sell? I wish you were a day sooner. I already made a deal with a guy who wants to put it in his 1911 Jackson car . He is going to pick it up Monday. I will get ahold of him though and have him contact you if he would consider selling it to a hudson owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54Coupe Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Thank you Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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