alsancle Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, Grimy said: And another big deduction for leaving late.... Somehow we did not find time to attack the surviving jug of Maker's that I brought to the Pierce meet. The other one went to Greg.... I had a makers old fashion in a hotel bar at a Holiday Inn in one of the small cities we stopped in. I’ve already forgotten which one. It was actually pretty good, as old fashions go. Seems like most bartenders have a really hard time making them correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 5:37 PM, edinmass said: if I had a 1915-1919 Pierce 48 I would jump at it……….anything newer just doesn’t seem entertaining enough. George T, can I borrow your car? And your gas card? Yes to the car, no to the gas card. The way you drive, about 5 mpg at best.... And a *1920* Series 51 also qualifies; I'll have to educate you about RHD Pierces.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, alsancle said: I had a makers old fashion in a hotel bar at a Holiday Inn in one of the small cities we stopped in. I’ve already forgotten which one. It was actually pretty good, as old fashions go. Seems like most bartenders have a really hard time making them correctly. You like candy drinks, AJ? I'm shocked... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Grimy said: You like candy drinks, AJ? I'm shocked... George, most of the time when I get an old fashion it tastes like pure rubbing alcohol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 33 minutes ago, Grimy said: And another big deduction for leaving late.... Somehow we did not find time to attack the surviving jug of Maker's that I brought to the Pierce meet. The other one went to Greg.... I drained the entire bottle of Crown at the bar.......and the one in my room!😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, edinmass said: I drained the entire bottle of Crown at the bar.......and the one in my room!😝 Are you bragging or complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, Grimy said: You like candy drinks, AJ? I'm shocked... The ladies never drink anything straight up.........AJ need's the Kool Aid! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, Grimy said: Are you bragging or complaining? Both.......it was 9 bucks a shot.........I could have bought another Pierce! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, alsancle said: And I tell everyone you’re Portuguese. Puxe sua cabeça para fora de sua bunda! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, edinmass said: Both.......it was 9 bucks a shot.........I could have bought another Pierce! Or paid for a college education that you say you had a lack of. I think you qualified for a PHD in mechanics a long time ago. dave s ps- is a PHD piled higher and deeper? Edited June 30, 2022 by SC38dls (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, SC38dls said: Or paid for a college education that you say you had a lack of. I think you qualified for a PHD in mechanics a long time ago. dave s ps- is a PHD piled higher and deeper? I is a collage graduate............51/2 years worth. And no, that wasn't just for a certificate or associates degree. Did I mention I had 18 ASE certifications? 🤐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Ed, I is too but I did it in three terms, Johnston’s, Nixion’s and Ford’s ! dave s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 8:08 PM, alsancle said: Costs. It is not a cheap thing to participate in. Probably less than bringing a car to Pebble, but a lot more than going on a tour. 1. Car Prep - the car really needs to be dialed in. No corners cut or they will bite you in the middle of nowhere. 5k? 10k? 20k? Depends on the car. 2. Registration, - off the top of my head I think it is 7500 per car, and then another 2500 if you want a corporate sponsor logo on the car. 3. Transport - some of the cars were driven to both RI and home from Fargo. It is an advantage if you live near one of the end points. Otherwise, you are trailering or paying the transporter. Figure 2500 to get the car home or 5K both ways. 4. Hotels, rates were 135-145 for most of the stays. There might have been one expensive one mixed in. You need a room from Wed night through the following week to Monday. That is 12 nights. If you are sharing a room between Navigator and driver then you can keep that to around 1500. 5. Food. You are getting fed 3 meals typically every day. So food costs are minimal. 6. Rally Clock & Speedo, 2k. 7. Support team - if you have one you don't care about anything else I've said for costs. So, lets see... 10K + 7500K + 5K + 1500 + 2k = 26K for one race? That's pretty good guess for the first year, but after that about $15,000 if you use the same car and have no pit crew. , The temptation is to get an older car for the handicap. I always wanted to run Class Brass, but you start over on preparation. Better to run the same car again and work getting your driver to be as up on the navigation as you are. Once you get in the Championship Division the competion gets real strong. 4 Aces is not always a winner, sometimes ot takes 5. The 10 & 15 MPH legs are real champion killers. Practice, practice practice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 AJ, do you know how long Tom had been on a wait list to participate this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, TAKerry said: AJ, do you know how long Tom had been on a wait list to participate this year? I’ll have to ask him when I see him. We’ve talked about sending a deposit in by the end of the month for next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 A.J. I liked your almost daily blog. You may be the first person to do that, at least you were here. I had to call the Sportscaster in Tampa to keep him up with our whereabouts, which he sometimes shared with viewers. Your system was very informative for this Forum Bunch, especially me. You caught on really quickly. If you prepare better next time, youl'll do a lot better and have a lot more fun. Thanks for sharing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul Dobbin said: A.J. I liked your almost daily blog. You may be the first person to do that, at least you were here. I had to call the Sportscaster in Tampa to keep him up with our whereabouts, which he sometimes shared with viewers. Your system was very informative for this Forum Bunch, especially me. You caught on really quickly. If you prepare better next time, youl'll do a lot better and have a lot more fun. Thanks for sharing. Thanks Paul! I really knew little of the race before this year, and it seems many of my friends were in the same bucket with me. Definitely an experience, and we are leaning toward sending our check in for next year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Ok giuys, here it is for 2023, let the dreams begin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Is that the great race, or a test drive for a cooling system?🧐 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Hope the organisers know which way they're going. Conflicting info given in race poster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Maybe AJ & Tom should run it backwards? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 6 hours ago, edinmass said: Maybe AJ & Tom should run it backwards? 🤔 Eddy, reading the instructions forwards is bad enough. But your point about the cooling system is well taken. We were boiling gas on those 95 degree days last week. Any changes need to be in keeping with our motto of "100% stock". Maybe "99.9%" stock will need to be our motto for next year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) I’m a 100% stock guy. But when running modern pump fuel, minimum modifications are necessary. If I was doing the great race with any pre-war car I would run a return fuel line. Just upping the pressure isn’t enough. I’m not sure I would run a stock radiator either. In a stock automobile driving according to conditions you will not overheat, but the demands of the race when you have to drive accordingly, Will most likely cause issues. Edited July 3, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 After pondering it for a few days, I think if I tried running this in a brand new car with a competent navigator, The odds of coming in the top 20% are about zero. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 My odds in a new car or the oldest in the race would be 100% of being worst than last. The officials would have to come find me days late if they could at all. dave s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 AJ, aside from the carburetor swap, did you have any other component failures that required replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 hours ago, EmTee said: AJ, aside from the carburetor swap, did you have any other component failures that required replacement? THE LOOSE NUT BEHIND THE WHEEL............!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Hard to believe an organization as big as Hemmings/Haggerty et al can mess up where 2023 GR starts and finishes, and both on same poster! Red faces somewhere!! Maybe if Ed chimes in they will checker flag it in Fl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, EmTee said: AJ, aside from the carburetor swap, did you have any other component failures that required replacement? The new brake switch failed, the replacement leaked and the third was the charm. Tom had to rig up manual brake lights for one of the days until we got the 3rd switch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 5 hours ago, SC38dls said: The officials would have to come find me days late if they could at all. dave s About forty years ago, one of the Endurance Runs I went on? At the end of the day, the clubs sent about six modern cars to search around many miles of back roads for a missing car! A couple other people had seen him miss a turn, and he hadn't been seen since. He finally found his way to his house just about sundown. This was before cell phones, so some of the searchers didn't show back up for another hour or two! The guy couldn't follow directions hardly at all, and did the same thing a couple years later. That time, the club just waited for him to show up. Which he did a couple hours later. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Laferriere Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 7/3/2022 at 4:36 PM, alsancle said: The new brake switch failed, the replacement leaked and the third was the charm. Tom had to rig up manual brake lights for one of the days until we got the 3rd switch. Do what you have to do. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Tom, most of these posts have been directed towards AJ, but Thanks for 'dragging him' along with you on the race. It was very entertaining for us hobos on the sidelines! I for one am looking forward to following along with you guys next year. If I ever get back to New England I would love to look you and he up and take a closer look at your collection of autos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tom Laferriere said: Do what you have to do. I think Tom may have a bit of dirt racing enthusiasm in him. I suspect some may refer to that as Farmer, or Tractor Mechanic. I did alot of work under the shade trees in my past. By the way, I have greatly enjoyed this thread Edited July 5, 2022 by JACK M (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Always carry duck tape and some extra wire. Tom, that was a heads up fast fix to keep you going. To me that is not a tractor mechanic fix it’s a McGiver fix. Got the job done and on your way. I too have enjoyed this tread and your adventures. Hope next year the two of you can do it again. It looks like you will pass within a couple hours drive of Aiken so I will definitely be going somewhere to see it in person. dave s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Not to sideline this thread, but I just read a blip on the Hemmings site regarding their entry in the race which was a ss chevelle. Sounds like they had a plethora of problems, especially compared to Tom and AJ. And their mechanic was following along with a support vehicle!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, TAKerry said: Not to sideline this thread, but I just read a blip on the Hemmings site regarding their entry in the race which was a ss chevelle. Sounds like they had a plethora of problems, especially compared to Tom and AJ. And their mechanic was following along with a support vehicle!! Ability to do a "Quick and Dirty" repair to "Git-er-Done" is an aquired, and much need blessing, but extensive preparation is still the the most important thing we can do. Genius is 10% Inspiration and 90% Perspiration. I travel a lot, and carry tools and spare parts, as well as two(2) spare tires- but then, I'm sometimes accused of wanting to wear a belt and suspenders. Folks who mock the amount of "stuff I bring along, change their tune when my "stuff" helps them out of a jamb. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 One more after thought. In 1989, 5 years after beginning my Great Race Career, my wife and I bought our first Class A motorhome. With my race experiences we had an endless list of nice small towns to go visit together. In addison we discoverd AACA Tours that we could do together without risking our happy married life. For a long time I kept old route instructions from the Great Races and we traveled a lot of those backroads together, where we had the oportunity to stop if we something special. On AACA Tours I met many other Great Race participants and spectators.. Kind of a lasting bonus for the next 33 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) I just hope the section on the map of the race coming through the middle of Arkansas is correct for next year. Looks like they'll be tooling right through my area. I'll take vacation time to watch for them to come through. And re: cooling systems- it's 109 degrees in my shop right now, and it's shaded by a huge oak. 103 outside. So, yeah, bring your A game on that. Or your Triple A card. LOL Edited July 8, 2022 by Roscoe (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Just published highlight video: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 If anybody happens to see Tom and I in that video please let me know where. I counted 129 other cars but could not find us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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